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Posted: 28 March 2006 4:03 PM
Subject: Tyres
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I need to replace my rear tyres on a Arto
I have been advised to try Dunlop D8’s as they are bordering on
Truck tyre strength have all the same ratings, and are £35 cheaper
Than Michelin camping tyres. As I am changing through age and
not ware I cant see any reason to stay with Michelin.
The mileage on the old tyres is 35.000 miles
I’m can’t make my mind up
Posted: 28 March 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: Tyres
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Location: Swansea. Autosleeper Legend: Transit diesel auto

Hi, Simmo, I used nothing but Michelin tyres for years, like 40+, but over the last 10 years, because of the price, I have now changed on the advice of our local tyre man, to Kumho. I also have them on my 4x4 which I use to tow a big caravan (YES I DO BOTH) and new ones last year, on my Motor home, Kumho 205R14C load rating 109/107Q. Very good no complaints, if you can get into back posts refering to tyres on the old MMM Forum we were discussing tyres, and some one informed us that VW: had a contract with Kumho to supply two hundred thousand tyres for new VWs, so they must be considered good. I only paid £42-50 each tyre including valves, ballance, fitting, and eco disposal fee on the old tyres. Kumho have their own web site showing their range of tyres etc. I have been informed that they also supply F3 racing tyres, not that we need them for motor homing. Good luck on your hunt for new tyres, I think you will find Kumho tyre prices agreeable. I also had "Protex" puncture repair fluid installed at one of the M.H. shows last year, expensive but "peace of mind" no flat tyres through punctures.
Posted: 28 March 2006 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: Tyres
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I think the the camping tyres are of a different compound to take into consideration the fact that motorhomes spend a lot of their time standing still which can affect the way in which they deteriate over time rather than the mileage that they cover.Personally I would err on the side of caution & stick to camping tyres,after all they will last 4 or 5 years anyway.
Posted: 26 April 2006 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: Tyres

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Wonder if we are better to buy a cheaper tyre than the michelin camping and replace more often so at end of day it costs no more, running on newer and more average tread depth for same period. Is it safer overall I wonder.
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Posted: 27 April 2006 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: Tyres

Location: Herefordshire - 2015 Rapido 640F LHD 2.3ltr 150bhp

Historically, Michelin's XC Camping tyre has had one unique feature - its design capability to withstand overload beyond its stated load index. For motorcaravanners who will never exploit this feature, then an alternative, cheaper 8PR pattern should be perfectly adequate in terms of safety. In such cases, a policy of regularly replacing the cheaper tyres so that a deep tread-depth is maintained would make good sense safety-wise.

An independent test in 2002 suggested that XC Camping has uninspiring comparative wet-weather performance. Additionally, as XC Camping's tread is not M+S, alternative tyres are likely to offer superior off-road grip (as Michelin will confirm). There seems to be no evidence that the pattern is any harder wearing, or more UV resistant, than its competitors.

From a technical standpoint, there are potential drawbacks mixing 'ordinary' 8PR or 10PR tyres with XC Camping (like choosing suitable tyre pressures) and I'm pretty sure Michelin would recommend that XC Camping be fitted to all of a motorhome's road-wheels or not used on any.

I understand that a revised version of XC Camping is imminent or may already be on the market.
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Posted: 28 April 2006 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: Tyres
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Location: West Lakes

Camping tyres were introduced in the 1960's for caravans; as these tended to stand in one place for longer than any other vehicle.
They came to be used fro motorhomes by people who liked to overload their motorhomes (not only is this practice illegal and can result in a hefty fine and/or a disqualification - depending on the amount of overload involved. - It is also unsafe, as it can lead to vehicle instability).

We have driven vans as goods vehicles for carriage of racing cycles, camping gear, and goods for sale; since 1959 (46 years) and most of this time at maximum load.

I have always used the commercial tyres for the vehicle concerned with NO problems

All this time I have taken the advice as to the type of tyre from the trade fitter and run them at the pressure recommended by the trade person
userDerek Uzzell
Posted: 29 April 2006 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: Tyres

Location: Herefordshire - 2015 Rapido 640F LHD 2.3ltr 150bhp

YT: Not sure what your definition of "camping tyres" is, but the particular tyre pattern being discussed here (Michelin's XC Camping) was certainly not around in the 1960s and has never been fitted as original equipment to caravans. To the best of my knowledge caravans now (and always have) used ordinary reinforced car tyres or normal "C"-marked light-commercial-vehicle tyres dependent on the caravan's weight.
Posted: 26 July 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: Tyres

My experience is that Michelin Camping Car tyres give a significantly quieter ride than any other tyre that I have ever used.
As they last for several years the extra cost per year is worth it for the comfort alone.
userDerek Uzzell
Posted: 26 July 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: Tyres

Location: Herefordshire - 2015 Rapido 640F LHD 2.3ltr 150bhp

It's a point of view. Personally, if I had to choose between XC Camping and an alternative pattern from Michelin or Continental that would be suitable for my motorhome, then I'd opt for the alternative. Early examples of coachbuilt motorhomes based on Transit platform-cab chassis were (for some unknown reason) factory-fitted with XC Camping, but most now seem to be wearing Continental Vanco-8 tyres. When I ordered my Transit-based Hobby I dreaded the thought that it would be shod with XC Camping and was overjoyed when it wasn't.
Posted: 28 July 2006 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: Tyres

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Location: Grantham - rapido 741f - 2.8tdi fiat ducato - 02

Don't know nuffin about tyres except I need two new ones on the rear.
Brownhill quoted 91.95 each + vat + half an hour fitting charge.
Where I work in Grantham we have an account with Tanvic, getting two fitted this afternoon for 67 each +vat will probably have a couple of quid for environmental disposal and valves. this is for michellin Aglis 81 (195/70p 15c) - which is what are on the front.

Edited by carolh 2006-07-28 7:15 AM
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Posted: 29 July 2006 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: Tyres

Location: Herefordshire - 2015 Rapido 640F LHD 2.3ltr 150bhp

Proves that it pays to shop around.

However, don't overlook the fact that, as your company has an account with a tyre supplier you will (should) be getting a better price than that offered to a private individual. Also, it's probable that Brownhills would not carry out the tyre replacement themselves but sub-contract the task to a tyre specialist. As Brownhills would be acting as 'middle man' one shouldn't be surprised that they would want to charge for that service.
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