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UK Gov attempt to BLOCK reversal of Article 50 ECJ case
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userpelmetman
Posted: 27 November 2018 7:01 PM
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Brian Kirby - 2018-11-27 11:33 AM

pelmetman - 2018-11-27 8:24 AM
1......There is No "Evidence" ........Just Remoaner hyperbole .........

2......The only known "Actual"economic consequences of leaving without a deal are...... we'll immediately take back control of £350 million a week, control of our borders, and our laws........

Not forgetting the Bruce'y bonus of saving £39 Billion ........

1 There is, but you won't read/understand it.

2 Wrong, because the £350 million a week was a) £200 million a week, and b) not "actual", but a forecast.

The £39 billion is a consequence of the decision to leave the EU. It is not a fixed sum (it is calculated in €), and it is unlikely the sum payable would be any different were we to leave with no deal. It represents the value of future payments the UK had undertaken to make to the EU. If you withdraw from contractual commitments, you incur debts to the other party. If we leave, however we do so, the debt arises.


1.....Sadly you confuse understanding propaganda Brian .......With believing it .......

2....Mere semantic's depending on which ONS dodgy book you take your figures from ......

3.....What are they gonna do if we don't pay it ? ........

Invade? .......

They haven't got an army yet ........

userBulletguy
Posted: 27 November 2018 8:22 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-11-27 7:01 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-27 11:33 AM

pelmetman - 2018-11-27 8:24 AM
1......There is No "Evidence" ........Just Remoaner hyperbole .........

2......The only known "Actual"economic consequences of leaving without a deal are...... we'll immediately take back control of £350 million a week, control of our borders, and our laws........

Not forgetting the Bruce'y bonus of saving £39 Billion ........

1 There is, but you won't read/understand it.

2 Wrong, because the £350 million a week was a) £200 million a week, and b) not "actual", but a forecast.

The £39 billion is a consequence of the decision to leave the EU. It is not a fixed sum (it is calculated in €), and it is unlikely the sum payable would be any different were we to leave with no deal. It represents the value of future payments the UK had undertaken to make to the EU. If you withdraw from contractual commitments, you incur debts to the other party. If we leave, however we do so, the debt arises.


1.....Sadly you confuse understanding propaganda Brian .......With believing it .......

2....Mere semantic's depending on which ONS dodgy book you take your figures from ......

3.....What are they gonna do if we don't pay it ? ........

Invade? .......

They haven't got an army yet ........

Just as i thought......more Mad Hatter deflection and waffle.
userpelmetman
Posted: 27 November 2018 8:40 PM
Subject: RE: UK Gov attempt to BLOCK reversal of Article 50 ECJ case
 


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Bulletguy - 2018-11-27 8:22 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-27 7:01 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-27 11:33 AM

pelmetman - 2018-11-27 8:24 AM
1......There is No "Evidence" ........Just Remoaner hyperbole .........

2......The only known "Actual"economic consequences of leaving without a deal are...... we'll immediately take back control of £350 million a week, control of our borders, and our laws........

Not forgetting the Bruce'y bonus of saving £39 Billion ........

1 There is, but you won't read/understand it.

2 Wrong, because the £350 million a week was a) £200 million a week, and b) not "actual", but a forecast.

The £39 billion is a consequence of the decision to leave the EU. It is not a fixed sum (it is calculated in €), and it is unlikely the sum payable would be any different were we to leave with no deal. It represents the value of future payments the UK had undertaken to make to the EU. If you withdraw from contractual commitments, you incur debts to the other party. If we leave, however we do so, the debt arises.


1.....Sadly you confuse understanding propaganda Brian .......With believing it .......

2....Mere semantic's depending on which ONS dodgy book you take your figures from ......

3.....What are they gonna do if we don't pay it ? ........

Invade? .......

They haven't got an army yet ........

Just as i thought......more Mad Hatter deflection and waffle.


Just as I thought........more Bulletsh*t .........

userBulletguy
Posted: 27 November 2018 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: UK Gov attempt to BLOCK reversal of Article 50 ECJ case
 


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pelmetman - 2018-11-27 8:40 PM

Bulletguy - 2018-11-27 8:22 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-27 7:01 PM

Brian Kirby - 2018-11-27 11:33 AM

pelmetman - 2018-11-27 8:24 AM
1......There is No "Evidence" ........Just Remoaner hyperbole .........

2......The only known "Actual"economic consequences of leaving without a deal are...... we'll immediately take back control of £350 million a week, control of our borders, and our laws........

Not forgetting the Bruce'y bonus of saving £39 Billion ........

1 There is, but you won't read/understand it.

2 Wrong, because the £350 million a week was a) £200 million a week, and b) not "actual", but a forecast.

The £39 billion is a consequence of the decision to leave the EU. It is not a fixed sum (it is calculated in €), and it is unlikely the sum payable would be any different were we to leave with no deal. It represents the value of future payments the UK had undertaken to make to the EU. If you withdraw from contractual commitments, you incur debts to the other party. If we leave, however we do so, the debt arises.


1.....Sadly you confuse understanding propaganda Brian .......With believing it .......

2....Mere semantic's depending on which ONS dodgy book you take your figures from ......

3.....What are they gonna do if we don't pay it ? ........

Invade? .......

They haven't got an army yet ........

Just as i thought......more Mad Hatter deflection and waffle.


Just as I thought........more Bulletsh*t .........

Put your bottles away.......you've run out of brain cells.
userBrian Kirby
Posted: 28 November 2018 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: UK Gov attempt to BLOCK reversal of Article 50 ECJ case
 


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pelmetman - 2018-11-27 7:01 PM..................….
1.....Sadly you confuse understanding propaganda Brian .......With believing it .......

2....Mere semantic's depending on which ONS dodgy book you take your figures from ......

3.....What are they gonna do if we don't pay it ? ........Invade? .......They haven't got an army yet ........

1 I don't think so, but I think you may be confusing evidence with proof positive.

2 No, not semantics. One figure is gross, and makes no allowance for what comes back. The other is net, and takes into account what comes back. You claim to have run your own business, so I assume you must know the difference.

3 Apply punitive tariffs on all our exports to EU states, or similar, would appear just a bit more probable. Hardly a good way to protect UK jobs, don't you think?
userpelmetman
Posted: 29 November 2018 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: UK Gov attempt to BLOCK reversal of Article 50 ECJ case
 


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Brian Kirby - 2018-11-28 6:05 PM

pelmetman - 2018-11-27 7:01 PM..................….
1.....Sadly you confuse understanding propaganda Brian .......With believing it .......

2....Mere semantic's depending on which ONS dodgy book you take your figures from ......

3.....What are they gonna do if we don't pay it ? ........Invade? .......They haven't got an army yet ........

1 I don't think so, but I think you may be confusing evidence with proof positive.

2 No, not semantics. One figure is gross, and makes no allowance for what comes back. The other is net, and takes into account what comes back. You claim to have run your own business, so I assume you must know the difference.

3 Apply punitive tariffs on all our exports to EU states, or similar, would appear just a bit more probable. Hardly a good way to protect UK jobs, don't you think?


1.......There is No evidence ..........We haven't Left yet .......

2.......Yes.....and I know the difference between a fixed overhead and a unnecessary expense ........

3.......As a Net importer any tariff war will mean "kaching" for UK plc ..........Which of course we could use as bungs to support UK businesses.......Something which the EU forbids .......

Unless they do it .......

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