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userpelmetman
Posted: 9 January 2020 9:44 AM
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09s4lzz/episodes/guide

Watched two of these programs .......

One on the area around Benidorm and the other on Ibiza......ie Spain .......

The program is about folk going away for the winter ........

They have yet to say........"Oh BTW you'll only be allowed to stay for 90 days" .......

Perhaps they know something our resident doomsayers don't? ........

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Posted: 9 January 2020 10:31 AM
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pelmetman - 2020-01-09 9:44 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09s4lzz/episodes/guide

Watched two of these programs .......

One on the area around Benidorm and the other on Ibiza......ie Spain .......

The program is about folk going away for the winter ........

They have yet to say........"Oh BTW you'll only be allowed to stay for 90 days" .......

Perhaps they know something our resident doomsayers don't? ........




Well it would appear that the programmes were made two or three years ago.

IF that is case, it may be that the BBC didn't know what the rules would be three years into the future.



Edited by malc d 2020-01-09 10:31 AM
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Posted: 9 January 2020 10:40 AM
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Posted: 9 January 2020 10:43 AM
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There are still people popping up on motorhome sites that dont seem to know about the 90 day rule and it comes as a surprise that it will apply to them. When it was brought up repeatedly in 2016 it was dismissed as project fear and a load of nonsense. Oh well.
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Posted: 9 January 2020 10:50 AM
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pelmetman - 2020-01-09 9:44 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09s4lzz/episodes/guide

Watched two of these programs .......

One on the area around Benidorm and the other on Ibiza......ie Spain .......

The program is about folk going away for the winter ........

They have yet to say........"Oh BTW you'll only be allowed to stay for 90 days" .......

Perhaps they know something our resident doomsayers don't? ........




Well it would appear that the programmes were made two or three years ago.

IF that is case, it may be that the BBC didn't know what the rules would be three years into the future.



Kinda irresponsible of a taxpayer funded broadcaster, to be encouraging viewers to sign up for 6 month leases by showing the programs now? ............

Either they know the likelihood of the 90 day rule being put in place is piffle? ..........

Or they are opening themselves to being sued for damages? ..........

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Posted: 9 January 2020 10:53 AM
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Well not until 2pm this afternoon .........

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/f6st9p/get-away-for-winter--s1-e4-lanzarote/

BANG.......Ouch!!!..........I can feel your pain ........
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Posted: 9 January 2020 11:08 AM
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BANG.......Ouch!!!..........I can feel your pain ........


Not surprising as its your foot and not mine
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Posted: 9 January 2020 11:18 AM
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BANG.......Ouch!!!..........I can feel your pain ........


Not surprising as its your foot and not mine


So you're denying the program is on BBC 2 at 2pm this afternoon? ..........

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Posted: 9 January 2020 11:29 AM
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Kinda irresponsible of a taxpayer funded broadcaster, to be encouraging viewers to sign up for 6 month leases by showing the programs now? ............




I don't intend to watch - but I doubt very much if the BBC would be " encouraging viewers to sign up " by showing these documentaries..

Likewise - when they show documentaries about world war two it's not to encourage people to go to war.

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Posted: 9 January 2020 11:37 AM
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pelmetman - 2020-01-09 10:50 AM


Kinda irresponsible of a taxpayer funded broadcaster, to be encouraging viewers to sign up for 6 month leases by showing the programs now? ............




I don't intend to watch - but I doubt very much if the BBC would be " encouraging viewers to sign up " by showing these documentaries..

Likewise - when they show documentaries about world war two it's not to encourage people to go to war.



If you bothered to watch it you'd soon see that its the usual "Fun in the Sun" format, involving a estate agent finding properties to rent (rather than buy) for a discounted rate over the winter months ..........

There's been No Mention of 90 days in a 180 .........

Kinda irresponsible dontcha think for the Remoaner biased BBC? .........
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Posted: 9 January 2020 12:25 PM
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Kinda irresponsible of a taxpayer funded broadcaster, to be encouraging viewers to sign up for 6 month leases by showing the programs now? ............




I don't intend to watch - but I doubt very much if the BBC would be " encouraging viewers to sign up " by showing these documentaries..

Likewise - when they show documentaries about world war two it's not to encourage people to go to war.



If you bothered to watch it you'd soon see that its the usual "Fun in the Sun" format, involving a estate agent finding properties to rent (rather than buy) for a discounted rate over the winter months ..........

There's been No Mention of 90 days in a 180 .........

Kinda irresponsible dontcha think for the Remoaner biased BBC? .........



No I don't.

I've never seen a " fun in the sun " documentary on ANY TV channel that has explained the laws of the country involved.

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Posted: 9 January 2020 12:58 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-01-09 11:37 AM

malc d - 2020-01-09 11:29 AM

pelmetman - 2020-01-09 10:50 AM


Kinda irresponsible of a taxpayer funded broadcaster, to be encouraging viewers to sign up for 6 month leases by showing the programs now? ............




I don't intend to watch - but I doubt very much if the BBC would be " encouraging viewers to sign up " by showing these documentaries..

Likewise - when they show documentaries about world war two it's not to encourage people to go to war.



If you bothered to watch it you'd soon see that its the usual "Fun in the Sun" format, involving a estate agent finding properties to rent (rather than buy) for a discounted rate over the winter months ..........

There's been No Mention of 90 days in a 180 .........

Kinda irresponsible dontcha think for the Remoaner biased BBC? .........


You mean the Brexit broadcasting corporation. Do keep up.

Dave. These crappy programs are put together by kids and clueless researchers. Are you saying the BBC knows how Schengen works better than the EU and those that run Schengen?

Your still in denial.
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Posted: 9 January 2020 2:08 PM
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Kinda irresponsible of a taxpayer funded broadcaster, to be encouraging viewers to sign up for 6 month leases by showing the programs now? ............




I don't intend to watch - but I doubt very much if the BBC would be " encouraging viewers to sign up " by showing these documentaries..

Likewise - when they show documentaries about world war two it's not to encourage people to go to war.



If you bothered to watch it you'd soon see that its the usual "Fun in the Sun" format, involving a estate agent finding properties to rent (rather than buy) for a discounted rate over the winter months ..........

There's been No Mention of 90 days in a 180 .........

Kinda irresponsible dontcha think for the Remoaner biased BBC? .........


You mean the Brexit broadcasting corporation. Do keep up.

Dave. These crappy programs are put together by kids and clueless researchers. Are you saying the BBC knows how Schengen works better than the EU and those that run Schengen?

Your still in denial.


Does that include the EU funded C4? ...........

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/a-place-in-the-sun-2018-2019/on-demand/68252-071

The only folk that are in D Nile are the Loser Brigade .........

There's noway Spain and the like are going to turn down my winter wonga ..........

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Posted: 9 January 2020 3:44 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-01-09 9:44 AM............….The program is about folk going away for the winter ........They have yet to say........"Oh BTW you'll only be allowed to stay for 90 days" ......……………..

Possibly, but then read this from ABTA on visa requirements post Brexit: https://tinyurl.com/y6l27s32 Just read down to the paragraph headed "Will I need a visa to travel to the EU after Brexit?".

And then read this from the European Parliament, noting the requirement for reciprocity on the part of the UK: https://tinyurl.com/tzkgj35

Finally, take on board that the UK has to pass the Withdrawal Bill into law before 31/1/20 for the above from the European Parliament to have effect. This requires the present committee stage and third reading to be completed today, the House of Lords to complete its three readings and committee and report stages, return to the commons for amendment or otherwise, and for the Bill to gain Royal assent, by that date.

And then make your own minds up as to just how cut and dried this all is.
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Posted: 9 January 2020 9:49 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-01-09 9:44 AM............….The program is about folk going away for the winter ........They have yet to say........"Oh BTW you'll only be allowed to stay for 90 days" ......……………..

Possibly, but then read this from ABTA on visa requirements post Brexit: https://tinyurl.com/y6l27s32 Just read down to the paragraph headed "Will I need a visa to travel to the EU after Brexit?".

And then read this from the European Parliament, noting the requirement for reciprocity on the part of the UK: https://tinyurl.com/tzkgj35

Finally, take on board that the UK has to pass the Withdrawal Bill into law before 31/1/20 for the above from the European Parliament to have effect. This requires the present committee stage and third reading to be completed today, the House of Lords to complete its three readings and committee and report stages, return to the commons for amendment or otherwise, and for the Bill to gain Royal assent, by that date.

And then make your own minds up as to just how cut and dried this all is.


Still clinging on to the hope that the EU wont cave into Boris, Brian? .........

I bet Mrs Merkel wishes she could turn back the clock on her meeting with Cameron ........



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Posted: 9 January 2020 10:06 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-01-09 10:50 AM

malc d - 2020-01-09 10:31 AM

pelmetman - 2020-01-09 9:44 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09s4lzz/episodes/guide

Watched two of these programs .......

One on the area around Benidorm and the other on Ibiza......ie Spain .......

The program is about folk going away for the winter ........

They have yet to say........"Oh BTW you'll only be allowed to stay for 90 days" .......

Perhaps they know something our resident doomsayers don't? ........




Well it would appear that the programmes were made two or three years ago.

IF that is case, it may be that the BBC didn't know what the rules would be three years into the future.



Kinda irresponsible of a taxpayer funded broadcaster, to be encouraging viewers to sign up for 6 month leases by showing the programs now? ............

Either they know the likelihood of the 90 day rule being put in place is piffle? ..........

Or they are opening themselves to being sued for damages? ..........

Yes, lt's blame the BBC not the silly short-sighted sods who voted for the 90 day rule.

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Posted: 9 January 2020 10:10 PM
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pelmetman - 2020-01-09 9:44 AM............….The program is about folk going away for the winter ........They have yet to say........"Oh BTW you'll only be allowed to stay for 90 days" ......……………..

Possibly, but then read this from ABTA on visa requirements post Brexit: https://tinyurl.com/y6l27s32 Just read down to the paragraph headed "Will I need a visa to travel to the EU after Brexit?".

And then read this from the European Parliament, noting the requirement for reciprocity on the part of the UK: https://tinyurl.com/tzkgj35

Finally, take on board that the UK has to pass the Withdrawal Bill into law before 31/1/20 for the above from the European Parliament to have effect. This requires the present committee stage and third reading to be completed today, the House of Lords to complete its three readings and committee and report stages, return to the commons for amendment or otherwise, and for the Bill to gain Royal assent, by that date.

And then make your own minds up as to just how cut and dried this all is.


Still clinging on to the hope that the EU wont cave into Boris, Brian? .........

I bet Mrs Merkel wishes she could turn back the clock on her meeting with Cameron ........

It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.
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Posted: 9 January 2020 10:13 PM
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Conrad - 2020-01-09 10:06 PM

Yes, lt's blame the BBC not the silly short-sighted sods who voted for the 90 day rule.



How many on here spend more than 90 days abroad? ..........

I do .........

But I'm not a selfish B*stard and voted for what was best for the UK .......

Unlike you obviously .........
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Posted: 10 January 2020 6:16 PM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem Schengenanigans?
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Posted: 10 January 2020 6:29 PM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem Schengenanigans?


Ahem ..........No evidence of the Russian's, Moroccan's, Algerian's, Armenian's, Peruvian's or any other Non EU Non Schengen citizens being rounded up and deported .........
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Posted: 10 January 2020 10:33 PM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem :-) Schengenanigans? :-D


Ahem :-) ..........No evidence of the Russian's, Moroccan's, Algerian's, Armenian's, Peruvian's or any other Non EU Non Schengen citizens being rounded up and deported :-D .........

Unlike you, none of the above voted to end their freedom of movement.

Short memory?

pelmetman - 2016-04-29 10:30 AM

If it means we leave the EU, then I'll be more than happy to accept a 90 day restriction on my European touring B-) ..........


Edited by Bulletguy 2020-01-10 10:40 PM
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Posted: 11 January 2020 7:10 AM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem Schengenanigans?


Ahem ..........No evidence of the Russian's, Moroccan's, Algerian's, Armenian's, Peruvian's or any other Non EU Non Schengen citizens being rounded up and deported .........

Unlike you, none of the above voted to end their freedom of movement.

Short memory?

pelmetman - 2016-04-29 10:30 AM

If it means we leave the EU, then I'll be more than happy to accept a 90 day restriction on my European touring ..........


Crikey so because David voted leave the Spanish fuzz are guna do him over , rough him up and kick him out but they aint guna touch all those others David lists ... Racists
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Posted: 11 January 2020 8:24 AM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem Schengenanigans?


Ahem ..........No evidence of the Russian's, Moroccan's, Algerian's, Armenian's, Peruvian's or any other Non EU Non Schengen citizens being rounded up and deported .........

Unlike you, none of the above voted to end their freedom of movement.



Nope..... we voted to be treated the same as the other 168 countries in the world ..........
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Posted: 11 January 2020 8:26 AM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem Schengenanigans?


Ahem ..........No evidence of the Russian's, Moroccan's, Algerian's, Armenian's, Peruvian's or any other Non EU Non Schengen citizens being rounded up and deported .........

Unlike you, none of the above voted to end their freedom of movement.

Short memory?

pelmetman - 2016-04-29 10:30 AM

If it means we leave the EU, then I'll be more than happy to accept a 90 day restriction on my European touring ..........


Crikey so because David voted leave the Spanish fuzz are guna do him over , rough him up and kick him out but they aint guna touch all those others David lists ... Racists


Yeah Bullets gonna grass me up to the Spanish Brexiteer Inquisition ...........
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Posted: 11 January 2020 3:37 PM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem Schengenanigans?


Ahem ..........No evidence of the Russian's, Moroccan's, Algerian's, Armenian's, Peruvian's or any other Non EU Non Schengen citizens being rounded up and deported .........

Unlike you, none of the above voted to end their freedom of movement.

Short memory?

pelmetman - 2016-04-29 10:30 AM

If it means we leave the EU, then I'll be more than happy to accept a 90 day restriction on my European touring ..........


Crikey so because David voted leave the Spanish fuzz are guna do him over , rough him up and kick him out but they aint guna touch all those others David lists ... Racists

No Anthony you're being very silly and treating a serious matter with your usual contempt. Ignoring the hyperbole and gangsta slingo, consequences can range from a fine to deportation.

But as Dave clearly said three years ago, if we leave the EU he's "more than happy to accept a 90 day restriction", i'm not sure why he now doesn't seem so happy to abide by that.
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem Schengenanigans?


Ahem ..........No evidence of the Russian's, Moroccan's, Algerian's, Armenian's, Peruvian's or any other Non EU Non Schengen citizens being rounded up and deported .........

Unlike you, none of the above voted to end their freedom of movement.



Nope..... we voted to be treated the same as the other 168 countries in the world ..........

There are 195 countries in the world.......so which 168 did you "vote to be treated the same as"?
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Posted: 11 January 2020 7:28 PM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem Schengenanigans?


Ahem ..........No evidence of the Russian's, Moroccan's, Algerian's, Armenian's, Peruvian's or any other Non EU Non Schengen citizens being rounded up and deported .........

If they can afford property, they can get residency, and can stay as long as a Spanish visa permits. Ditto if they are working. All within Schengen/EU rules. However, I'm assuming you are visiting as a third country tourist and will be subject to the rules that cover tourists?

If so, and unless you can gain a long term Schengen visa, you will be subject to the 90 days in 180 days rule, your passport will be date stamped on entry to Schengen and if, when you leave, you have spent more than 90 days in the Schengen area you will be liable to sanctions at that point.

Now, either you have looked all this up for yourself, so know it already, and are merely wasting everyone else's time, or you haven't. If you haven't, good luck!

You should be OK returning this spring, as you'll be unlikely to have spend more than 90 days in Schengen from 31 January (when we leave) - but your passport may be (no one seems to know) date stamped to indicate entry on 1 Feb and exit on whenever date, to indicate how much time you will by then have spent in Schengen as a third country tourist, which will be taken into account if you return within 90 days of exiting, so limiting your next stay to 90 days minus that amount. Just bear in mind that it is time spent in Schengen that counts, and not just the time spent in Spain.
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Posted: 12 January 2020 8:36 AM
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Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem Schengenanigans?


Ahem ..........No evidence of the Russian's, Moroccan's, Algerian's, Armenian's, Peruvian's or any other Non EU Non Schengen citizens being rounded up and deported .........

If they can afford property, they can get residency, and can stay as long as a Spanish visa permits.


I doubt the Looky Looky folk from Non Schengen African Nations can afford to rent, let alone purchase a property ........



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pelmetman - 2020-01-10 6:29 PM

Brian Kirby - 2020-01-10 6:16 PM

Bulletguy - 2020-01-09 10:10 PM...............….It seems more like you're clinging to the hope Spanish authorities don't rumble your ruse and boot you out......unless the UK border force gets itself into gear first and ends your shenanigans.


Ahem Schengenanigans?


Ahem ..........No evidence of the Russian's, Moroccan's, Algerian's, Armenian's, Peruvian's or any other Non EU Non Schengen citizens being rounded up and deported .........

Unlike you, none of the above voted to end their freedom of movement.



Nope..... we voted to be treated the same as the other 168 countries in the world ..........

There are 195 countries in the world.......so which 168 did you "vote to be treated the same as"?


167 + 28 = 195 ..........

I'd rather be In with the Out crowd .........

Don't like cliques ......
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