Bulletguy Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 An interesting two part documentary started on BBC2 tonight. Available on iplayer for anyone who missed the opening episode. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bjj191 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-09-04 10:38 PM An interesting two part documentary started on BBC2 tonight. Available on iplayer for anyone who missed the opening episode. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bjj191 Just watched it. Really interested in how they get on in Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-09-04 10:57 PM Bulletguy - 2018-09-04 10:38 PM An interesting two part documentary started on BBC2 tonight. Available on iplayer for anyone who missed the opening episode. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bjj191 Just watched it. Really interested in how they get on in Jerusalem. Already wide differences of opinion among the group so will also be interesting to see how certain ones approach the meeting of Palestinians too! I suspect a confrontation between Lily and Damon which already appears to be looming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 What I liked about the programme is that once again it showed how wrong it is to hold that any group whether defined by race, religion or nationality are of one mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:02 PM What I liked about the programme is that once again it showed how wrong it is to hold that any group whether defined by race, religion or nationality are of one mind. Tell Jeremy that when he slammed them all ... "British Zionists have no sense of English irony" he said while giving a speech alongside his "friends" Hamas Islamic extremists ... Hes just defined a whole group as something hasn't he ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-09-05 5:43 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:02 PM What I liked about the programme is that once again it showed how wrong it is to hold that any group whether defined by race, religion or nationality are of one mind. Tell Jeremy that when he slammed them all ... "British Zionists have no sense of English irony" he said while giving a speech alongside his "friends" Hamas Islamic extremists ... Hes just defined a whole group as something hasn't he ??? Can all Jews in the UK be described as British Zionists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:57 PM antony1969 - 2018-09-05 5:43 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:02 PM What I liked about the programme is that once again it showed how wrong it is to hold that any group whether defined by race, religion or nationality are of one mind. Tell Jeremy that when he slammed them all ... "British Zionists have no sense of English irony" he said while giving a speech alongside his "friends" Hamas Islamic extremists ... Hes just defined a whole group as something hasn't he ??? Can all Jews in the UK be described as British Zionists? I didn't say they were ... Jeremy said British Zionists who are a "group" as you say in your previous post and he says all of that "group" doesnt get English irony ... Isnt that labelling a whole group of folk ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet1956 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-09-05 6:03 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:57 PM antony1969 - 2018-09-05 5:43 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:02 PM What I liked about the programme is that once again it showed how wrong it is to hold that any group whether defined by race, religion or nationality are of one mind. Tell Jeremy that when he slammed them all ... "British Zionists have no sense of English irony" he said while giving a speech alongside his "friends" Hamas Islamic extremists ... Hes just defined a whole group as something hasn't he ??? Can all Jews in the UK be described as British Zionists? I didn't say they were ... Jeremy said British Zionists who are a "group" as you say in your previous post and he says all of that "group" doesnt get English irony ... Isnt that labelling a whole group of folk ??? But it is not a statement about Jews as a whole Antony. I do not intend to convey that I agree with his statement but as I see it the statement was not anti-Semitic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 6:07 PM antony1969 - 2018-09-05 6:03 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:57 PM antony1969 - 2018-09-05 5:43 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:02 PM What I liked about the programme is that once again it showed how wrong it is to hold that any group whether defined by race, religion or nationality are of one mind. Tell Jeremy that when he slammed them all ... "British Zionists have no sense of English irony" he said while giving a speech alongside his "friends" Hamas Islamic extremists ... Hes just defined a whole group as something hasn't he ??? Can all Jews in the UK be described as British Zionists? I didn't say they were ... Jeremy said British Zionists who are a "group" as you say in your previous post and he says all of that "group" doesnt get English irony ... Isnt that labelling a whole group of folk ??? But it is not a statement about Jews as a whole Antony. I do not intend to convey that I agree with his statement but as I see it the statement was not anti-Semitic. Its a statement about British Zionists and British Jews overwhelmingly are pro-israel and Zionists ... Thats not really the point I was making though ... You said that any group shouldn't be classed as one mind ... British Zionists are a group that Jeremy has labelled as one mind as in not getting English irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 antony1969 - 2018-09-05 6:13 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 6:07 PM antony1969 - 2018-09-05 6:03 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:57 PM antony1969 - 2018-09-05 5:43 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:02 PM What I liked about the programme is that once again it showed how wrong it is to hold that any group whether defined by race, religion or nationality are of one mind. Tell Jeremy that when he slammed them all ... "British Zionists have no sense of English irony" he said while giving a speech alongside his "friends" Hamas Islamic extremists ... Hes just defined a whole group as something hasn't he ??? Can all Jews in the UK be described as British Zionists? I didn't say they were ... Jeremy said British Zionists who are a "group" as you say in your previous post and he says all of that "group" doesnt get English irony ... Isnt that labelling a whole group of folk ??? But it is not a statement about Jews as a whole Antony. I do not intend to convey that I agree with his statement but as I see it the statement was not anti-Semitic. Its a statement about British Zionists and British Jews overwhelmingly are pro-israel and Zionists ... Thats not really the point I was making though ... You said that any group shouldn't be classed as one mind ... British Zionists are a group that Jeremy has labelled as one mind as in not getting English irony Then why only just now raise the point about a sentence uttered five years ago? There's more than an irony in that alone never mind anything else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-09-05 6:35 PM antony1969 - 2018-09-05 6:13 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 6:07 PM antony1969 - 2018-09-05 6:03 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:57 PM antony1969 - 2018-09-05 5:43 PM Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:02 PM What I liked about the programme is that once again it showed how wrong it is to hold that any group whether defined by race, religion or nationality are of one mind. Tell Jeremy that when he slammed them all ... "British Zionists have no sense of English irony" he said while giving a speech alongside his "friends" Hamas Islamic extremists ... Hes just defined a whole group as something hasn't he ??? Can all Jews in the UK be described as British Zionists? I didn't say they were ... Jeremy said British Zionists who are a "group" as you say in your previous post and he says all of that "group" doesnt get English irony ... Isnt that labelling a whole group of folk ??? But it is not a statement about Jews as a whole Antony. I do not intend to convey that I agree with his statement but as I see it the statement was not anti-Semitic. Its a statement about British Zionists and British Jews overwhelmingly are pro-israel and Zionists ... Thats not really the point I was making though ... You said that any group shouldn't be classed as one mind ... British Zionists are a group that Jeremy has labelled as one mind as in not getting English irony Then why only just now raise the point about a sentence uttered five years ago? There's more than an irony in that alone never mind anything else! Maybe because according to Barry he'll be our PM before Brexit so maybe its better to see what a racist he is surely ... Lordy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 Violet1956 - 2018-09-05 5:02 PM What I liked about the programme is that once again it showed how wrong it is to hold that any group whether defined by race, religion or nationality are of one mind. Alan (the old guy) doesn't pray, not devoted, and enjoys eating pork. Not unlike some Muslims then who not only eat pork, they hunt wild boar in Turkey for a roast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 The meeting with the Palestinian activist campaigning for non-violent resistance yet been arrested over the years by both Israeli and Palestinian authorities, spoke sense and told some harsh truths about the disparities. Pity Damon chose to ignore by abruptly walking out in a huff....didn't like it so his answer is shut dialogue down. The Israeli man who introduced the guy alongside him as "this Palestinian terrorist"....then went on to say how "he's my dearest 'brother' and in so many way's the closest person to me on earth", both gave very powerful testimony to how an Israeli Jew and Palestinian Arab can live in peace. Both had suffered losses, yet chose to come together as 'brothers' rather than wallow in a sea of perpetual hate and loathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Bulletguy - 2018-09-05 10:59 PM The meeting with the Palestinian activist campaigning for non-violent resistance yet been arrested over the years by both Israeli and Palestinian authorities, spoke sense and told some harsh truths about the disparities. Pity Damon chose to ignore by abruptly walking out in a huff....didn't like it so his answer is shut dialogue down. The Israeli man who introduced the guy alongside him as "this Palestinian terrorist"....then went on to say how "he's my dearest 'brother' and in so many way's the closest person to me on earth", both gave very powerful testimony to how an Israeli Jew and Palestinian Arab can live in peace. Both had suffered losses, yet chose to come together as 'brothers' rather than wallow in a sea of perpetual hate and loathing. They'll never live in peace :-| .................Hasn't happened in 1400 years.......... There will be individuals and even communities that will manage/have managed to coexist peacefully for a while, but eventually they'll be killing each other again *-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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