Birdbrain Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 ... Desperate to enter Poland and from there who knows ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/poland-european-union-belarus-lithuania-steffen-seibert-b1953688.html ... The young male professionals itching to get to Europes financial centres to work ... Can we be doing more to help??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Looks to me like a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime to destabilise the EU and cause friction between an already nationalist Poland and the EU. That bloke is a nutter and a threat to Europe. Mind you they probably think that about Johnson and certainly will if he remains in power much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 It'll be interesting to see how the EU reacts to a country who is actively trying to damage the EU ;-) ........ Seeing as how the EU is actively trying to damage the UK because we dared to leave *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-11-09 8:01 AM Looks to me like a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime to destabilise the EU and cause friction between an already nationalist Poland and the EU. That bloke is a nutter and a threat to Europe. Mind you they probably think that about Johnson and certainly will if he remains in power much longer. Reads like another of Barrys Hollywood scripts "a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime destabilise the EU" ... Lordy, get out a bit pumpkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Birdbrain - 2021-11-09 4:23 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-09 8:01 AM Looks to me like a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime to destabilise the EU and cause friction between an already nationalist Poland and the EU. That bloke is a nutter and a threat to Europe. Mind you they probably think that about Johnson and certainly will if he remains in power much longer. Reads like another of Barrys Hollywood scripts "a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime destabilise the EU" ... Lordy, get out a bit pumpkin Yet again the experts disagree with you, "The actions of Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko are a deliberate plan to destabilise Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and ultimately the whole European Union, Poland's spokesman for the special services coordinator, has said. Poland and other countries bordering Belarus have been tackling a migration crisis they blame on Minsk deliberately luring Middle Eastern, African and Asian migrants to Belarus's borders with EU states with a promise of onwards travel to the EU. Areas adjacent to Poland's border with Belarus have been under a state of emergency since September 2." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-09 10:46 AM It'll be interesting to see how the EU reacts to a country who is actively trying to damage the EU ;-) ........ Seeing as how the EU is actively trying to damage the UK because we dared to leave *-) ........ No Dave. We actively damaged ourselves, the EU have done nothing to deliberately damage the UK, we are quite capable of doing that on our own and did so when shot off our right foot by leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-09 4:26 PM Birdbrain - 2021-11-09 4:23 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-09 8:01 AM Looks to me like a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime to destabilise the EU and cause friction between an already nationalist Poland and the EU. That bloke is a nutter and a threat to Europe. Mind you they probably think that about Johnson and certainly will if he remains in power much longer. Reads like another of Barrys Hollywood scripts "a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime destabilise the EU" ... Lordy, get out a bit pumpkin Yet again the experts disagree with you, "The actions of Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko are a deliberate plan to destabilise Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and ultimately the whole European Union, Poland's spokesman for the special services coordinator, has said. Poland and other countries bordering Belarus have been tackling a migration crisis they blame on Minsk deliberately luring Middle Eastern, African and Asian migrants to Belarus's borders with EU states with a promise of onwards travel to the EU. Areas adjacent to Poland's border with Belarus have been under a state of emergency since September 2." Who is the expert your claiming to quote and what qualifications does he/she have in such matters to make them an expert as you claim??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 Seriously ... Dont women and children have to flee persecution and war ... ... I remember all those pictures and clips of real European refugees fleeing persecution before and during WW2, they had many women and children in their numbers ... This lot just seem to be young males, maybe their fleeing Mamas home cooking and just want some KFC or sumat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 The Bible asks "who is to blame???" ... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/09/poland-warns-of-armed-attempts-on-its-border-as-germany-urges-eu-to-act ... Themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Birdbrain - 2021-11-10 6:26 AM The Bible asks "who is to blame???" ... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/09/poland-warns-of-armed-attempts-on-its-border-as-germany-urges-eu-to-act ... Themselves Themselves? Alexander Lukashenko needs dealing with IMO. He and Putin are essentially people traffickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-11-10 9:56 AM Birdbrain - 2021-11-10 6:26 AM The Bible asks "who is to blame???" ... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/09/poland-warns-of-armed-attempts-on-its-border-as-germany-urges-eu-to-act ... Themselves Themselves? Alexander Lukashenko needs dealing with IMO. He and Putin are essentially people traffickers. Ahhhhh ... So Lukashenko and Putin made all these young males ditch their families ... Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-09 4:26 PM Birdbrain - 2021-11-09 4:23 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-09 8:01 AM Looks to me like a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime to destabilise the EU and cause friction between an already nationalist Poland and the EU. That bloke is a nutter and a threat to Europe. Mind you they probably think that about Johnson and certainly will if he remains in power much longer. Reads like another of Barrys Hollywood scripts "a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime destabilise the EU" ... Lordy, get out a bit pumpkin Yet again the experts disagree with you, "The actions of Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko are a deliberate plan to destabilise Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and ultimately the whole European Union, Poland's spokesman for the special services coordinator, has said. Poland and other countries bordering Belarus have been tackling a migration crisis they blame on Minsk deliberately luring Middle Eastern, African and Asian migrants to Belarus's borders with EU states with a promise of onwards travel to the EU. Areas adjacent to Poland's border with Belarus have been under a state of emergency since September 2." Interesting to hear from an official on the spot on the Polish border last night, who said that the immigrants are roughly 50 % men, and the rest a mixture of women and children. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 "Half of these people are going to the UK" claims one of the many women at the border ... Chuckle ... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10185881/Poland-border-crisis-Belarus-soldier-filmed-firing-shots-intimidate-migrants.html ... Maybe Barry for once will stand up and offer a desperate young woman refugee a home over Christmas??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Birdbrain - 2021-11-09 7:16 PM Seriously ... Dont women and children have to flee persecution and war ... ... I remember all those pictures and clips of real European refugees fleeing persecution before and during WW2, they had many women and children in their numbers ... This lot just seem to be young males, maybe their fleeing Mamas home cooking and just want some KFC or sumat From your latest Daily Wail link "Video captured by Polish guards showed people, including women and children, lined up along a border fence on the Belarusian side before the sound of a soldier cocking and firing his rifle is heard. " So do you now accept that there are women and children present? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 malc d - 2021-11-10 4:18 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-09 4:26 PM Birdbrain - 2021-11-09 4:23 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-09 8:01 AM Looks to me like a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime to destabilise the EU and cause friction between an already nationalist Poland and the EU. That bloke is a nutter and a threat to Europe. Mind you they probably think that about Johnson and certainly will if he remains in power much longer. Reads like another of Barrys Hollywood scripts "a deliberate ploy by the Lukashenko regime destabilise the EU" ... Lordy, get out a bit pumpkin Yet again the experts disagree with you, "The actions of Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko are a deliberate plan to destabilise Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and ultimately the whole European Union, Poland's spokesman for the special services coordinator, has said. Poland and other countries bordering Belarus have been tackling a migration crisis they blame on Minsk deliberately luring Middle Eastern, African and Asian migrants to Belarus's borders with EU states with a promise of onwards travel to the EU. Areas adjacent to Poland's border with Belarus have been under a state of emergency since September 2." Interesting to hear from an official on the spot on the Polish border last night, who said that the immigrants are roughly 50 % men, and the rest a mixture of women and children. :-| Sounds about right. I think the official statistics for refugees / migrants arriving in Europe are similar over the past few years. We see so many young males taking their chances across the channel mainly because its so flaming dangerous. The report I read earlier (cant remember where) stated most will head to Germany if they get into Poland. If any do filter through to us they will probably be mainly young Males for the reason stated above. Its also long been known that men will often travel alone on a very dangerous journey to claim Asylum in whatever country they feel they have the best chance and then once established claim asylum for their family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Lukashenko is not known as "Europes last dictator" for no reason. This is the man who ordered the landing in Minsk of a scheduled passenger aircraft enroute to Lithuania because one of it's passengers was a Belarusian journalist, Roman Protasevich, who opposed Lukashenko. Both he and his girlfriend were arrested at Minsk airport though and now under house arrest in Belarus. She is a Russian citizen so I doubt Putin is too impressed though Lukashenko has annoyed Putin plenty of times with his belligerence. Opposition leader Svetlana Tikhanovskaya who accused Lukashenko of election rigging (it's his specialty which enabled him to remain President for 27 years), had to flee with her family to Lithuania for her safety after the 2020 election. The EU and NATO increased sanctions against Belarus targeting some 30 individuals and entities including the foreign minister and Belarusian airline Belavia and of course, Lukashenko, over human right abuses as well as the enforced landing of a passenger aircraft. Lukashenko has retaliated by escorting migrants to it's borders with Poland and the Baltic states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-10 4:35 PM Birdbrain - 2021-11-09 7:16 PM Seriously ... Dont women and children have to flee persecution and war ... ... I remember all those pictures and clips of real European refugees fleeing persecution before and during WW2, they had many women and children in their numbers ... This lot just seem to be young males, maybe their fleeing Mamas home cooking and just want some KFC or sumat From your latest Daily Wail link "Video captured by Polish guards showed people, including women and children, lined up along a border fence on the Belarusian side before the sound of a soldier cocking and firing his rifle is heard. " So do you now accept that there are women and children present? I guess all those videos showing just young males at the border and of those breaking into the UK were doctored then and they are all mostly actually women and children ... Lordy, who knew ... Let them in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdbrain Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 Polands border problems are in Disneyworld caused by Putin and Lukashenko according to the panto ugly sisters... Whose to blame for Greeces border problems??? ... https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/greek-pm-turkeys-erdogan-will-discuss-afghanistan-friday-2021-08-20/ ... Bet its Brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-11-09 4:59 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-09 10:46 AM It'll be interesting to see how the EU reacts to a country who is actively trying to damage the EU ;-) ........ Seeing as how the EU is actively trying to damage the UK because we dared to leave *-) ........ No Dave. We actively damaged ourselves, the EU have done nothing to deliberately damage the UK, we are quite capable of doing that on our own and did so when shot off our right foot by leaving. Yeah we damaged ourselves so badly we're forcast to be the best performing economy in the G7 (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-10 8:52 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-09 4:59 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-09 10:46 AM It'll be interesting to see how the EU reacts to a country who is actively trying to damage the EU ;-) ........ Seeing as how the EU is actively trying to damage the UK because we dared to leave *-) ........ No Dave. We actively damaged ourselves, the EU have done nothing to deliberately damage the UK, we are quite capable of doing that on our own and did so when shot off our right foot by leaving. Yeah we damaged ourselves so badly we're forcast to be the best performing economy in the G7 (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ Nope. "The coronavirus crisis is set to bring more longer-lasting damage to the UK economy than any other country in the G7, the IMF has warned. The fund on Tuesday said its global forecasts showed that while most advanced nations would return to the economic growth expected before the pandemic struck, Britain’s economy would still be 3 per cent smaller in 2024. These large scars to the British economy, matched in recent days by forecasts from the Institute for Fiscal Studies and Citigroup, will force Rishi Sunak to use the new taxes he is raising to pay for the legacy of the pandemic rather than improving health and social care. The IMF also forecast the chancellor would go into this month’s Budget without being able to point to sustained falls in public debt by the middle of the decade." https://www.ft.com/content/af12d4aa-0a3e-4758-83c4-0c4070b504fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barryd999 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-10 9:31 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-10 8:52 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-09 4:59 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-09 10:46 AM It'll be interesting to see how the EU reacts to a country who is actively trying to damage the EU ;-) ........ Seeing as how the EU is actively trying to damage the UK because we dared to leave *-) ........ No Dave. We actively damaged ourselves, the EU have done nothing to deliberately damage the UK, we are quite capable of doing that on our own and did so when shot off our right foot by leaving. Yeah we damaged ourselves so badly we're forcast to be the best performing economy in the G7 (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ Nope. "The coronavirus crisis is set to bring more longer-lasting damage to the UK economy than any other country in the G7, the IMF has warned. The fund on Tuesday said its global forecasts showed that while most advanced nations would return to the economic growth expected before the pandemic struck, Britain’s economy would still be 3 per cent smaller in 2024. These large scars to the British economy, matched in recent days by forecasts from the Institute for Fiscal Studies and Citigroup, will force Rishi Sunak to use the new taxes he is raising to pay for the legacy of the pandemic rather than improving health and social care. The IMF also forecast the chancellor would go into this month’s Budget without being able to point to sustained falls in public debt by the middle of the decade." https://www.ft.com/content/af12d4aa-0a3e-4758-83c4-0c4070b504fb I heard he is bringing in a Greenhouse tax. £100 per window. Double for Greenhouses that cost £30k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Barryd999 - 2021-11-10 9:56 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-10 9:31 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-10 8:52 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-09 4:59 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-09 10:46 AM It'll be interesting to see how the EU reacts to a country who is actively trying to damage the EU ;-) ........ Seeing as how the EU is actively trying to damage the UK because we dared to leave *-) ........ No Dave. We actively damaged ourselves, the EU have done nothing to deliberately damage the UK, we are quite capable of doing that on our own and did so when shot off our right foot by leaving. Yeah we damaged ourselves so badly we're forcast to be the best performing economy in the G7 (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ Nope. "The coronavirus crisis is set to bring more longer-lasting damage to the UK economy than any other country in the G7, the IMF has warned. The fund on Tuesday said its global forecasts showed that while most advanced nations would return to the economic growth expected before the pandemic struck, Britain’s economy would still be 3 per cent smaller in 2024. These large scars to the British economy, matched in recent days by forecasts from the Institute for Fiscal Studies and Citigroup, will force Rishi Sunak to use the new taxes he is raising to pay for the legacy of the pandemic rather than improving health and social care. The IMF also forecast the chancellor would go into this month’s Budget without being able to point to sustained falls in public debt by the middle of the decade." https://www.ft.com/content/af12d4aa-0a3e-4758-83c4-0c4070b504fb I heard he is bringing in a Greenhouse tax. £100 per window. Double for Greenhouses that cost £30k. Back to the 1850's window tax with Boris's Brexit. At least Pelmethead will save on the basis that he still hasn't got his windows in Horaces bunker yet due to "supply chain" issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-10 10:34 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-10 9:56 PM CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-10 9:31 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-10 8:52 PM Barryd999 - 2021-11-09 4:59 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-09 10:46 AM It'll be interesting to see how the EU reacts to a country who is actively trying to damage the EU ;-) ........ Seeing as how the EU is actively trying to damage the UK because we dared to leave *-) ........ No Dave. We actively damaged ourselves, the EU have done nothing to deliberately damage the UK, we are quite capable of doing that on our own and did so when shot off our right foot by leaving. Yeah we damaged ourselves so badly we're forcast to be the best performing economy in the G7 (lol) (lol) (lol) ............ Nope. "The coronavirus crisis is set to bring more longer-lasting damage to the UK economy than any other country in the G7, the IMF has warned. The fund on Tuesday said its global forecasts showed that while most advanced nations would return to the economic growth expected before the pandemic struck, Britain’s economy would still be 3 per cent smaller in 2024. These large scars to the British economy, matched in recent days by forecasts from the Institute for Fiscal Studies and Citigroup, will force Rishi Sunak to use the new taxes he is raising to pay for the legacy of the pandemic rather than improving health and social care. The IMF also forecast the chancellor would go into this month’s Budget without being able to point to sustained falls in public debt by the middle of the decade." https://www.ft.com/content/af12d4aa-0a3e-4758-83c4-0c4070b504fb I heard he is bringing in a Greenhouse tax. £100 per window. Double for Greenhouses that cost £30k. Back to the 1850's window tax with Boris's Brexit. At least Pelmethead will save on the basis that he still hasn't got his windows in Horaces bunker yet due to "supply chain" issues. They're being fitted next week......a month sooner than expected B-) ......... So stuff that up your LOSER pipe TWITcher (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-11 9:21 AM They're being fitted next week......a month sooner than expected B-) ......... So stuff that up your LOSER pipe TWITcher (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Posted: 13 August 2021 10:29 AM by Pelmetman Subject: RE: Building a house...... "I'd like to see you dig just 1 ton of our clay ........... The glazing bloke is coming next Tuesday to measure up, they've quoted 10 weeks ........ ----- Dunearnin.....enjoying my Sunlit Uplands......Just spendin.." Like Johnson you just can't stop lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-11 9:50 AM pelmetman - 2021-11-11 9:21 AM They're being fitted next week......a month sooner than expected B-) ......... So stuff that up your LOSER pipe TWITcher (lol) (lol) (lol) .......... Posted: 13 August 2021 10:29 AM by Pelmetman Subject: RE: Building a house...... "I'd like to see you dig just 1 ton of our clay ........... The glazing bloke is coming next Tuesday to measure up, they've quoted 10 weeks ........ ----- Dunearnin.....enjoying my Sunlit Uplands......Just spendin.." Like Johnson you just can't stop lying. And because he tells that many......he can't keep track and often ends up skewering himself as he's done here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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