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Dave is like a chip off the old block (Johnson). Once again we see rising cases in Europe and restrictions being put in place and it would appear once again that we take no action here to nip it in the bud when as shown above our rates are already bad. *-)

 

The Tories have clearly done a good job of convincing the plebs that its all over here when clearly it isnt.

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pelmetman - 2021-11-22 7:41 AM

 

8-) ............

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/12/partial-lockdown-in-netherlands-amid-record-covid-cases

 

When the squad have told us that the EU has managed the Pandemic so much better than Boris? :-| ........

 

Just askin? >:-) ............

 

 

Good question Dave.

 

My guess is that it's because leaders in the EU are more concerned about the health of their populations, than Johnson is about us, and are less concerned about being popular.

 

 

:-|

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Oh dear oh dear *-) ..........

 

The squad clearly hate the thought that Boris and Brexit Blighty might be handling the Pandemic better than their EU heros :-| .........

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/covid-news-uk-europe-cases-infection-christmas_uk_619b57b3e4b07fe2010de26f?yptr=yahoo

 

What sad misrable LOSERS they are (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

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malc d - 2021-11-22 9:35 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-11-22 7:41 AM

 

8-) ............

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/12/partial-lockdown-in-netherlands-amid-record-covid-cases

 

When the squad have told us that the EU has managed the Pandemic so much better than Boris? :-| ........

 

Just askin? >:-) ............

 

 

Good question Dave.

 

My guess is that it's because leaders in the EU are more concerned about the health of their populations, than Johnson is about us, and are less concerned about being popular.

 

 

:-|

 

Not according to a "scientist"........Seeing as you only like to believe edgermercated folk :D ..........

 

"Prof Mark Woolhouse of Edinburgh University is clear on the issue. “I think the UK is ahead at present and Europe is following us,” he told the Observer."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/13/is-europes-covid-wave-coming-here-or-is-britain-ahead-of-the-curve

 

Or is he just trying to be popular? >:-) ...............

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-11-22 11:49 AM

 

... "Prof Mark Woolhouse of Edinburgh University is clear on the issue. “I think the UK is ahead at present and Europe is following us,” he told the Observer."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/13/is-europes-covid-wave-coming-here-or-is-britain-ahead-of-the-curve

 

Or is he just trying to be popular? >:-) ...............

 

 

Don't know.

We are actually looking at you just as a laboratory in order to understand what not to do.

 

p.s. W David Beckam yesterday in Doha always without a mask.

Good example, Bozo Joker wasn't enough.

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pelmetman - 2021-11-22 10:49 AM

 

malc d - 2021-11-22 9:35 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-11-22 7:41 AM

 

8-) ............

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/12/partial-lockdown-in-netherlands-amid-record-covid-cases

 

When the squad have told us that the EU has managed the Pandemic so much better than Boris? :-| ........

 

Just askin? >:-) ............

 

 

Good question Dave.

 

My guess is that it's because leaders in the EU are more concerned about the health of their populations, than Johnson is about us, and are less concerned about being popular.

 

 

:-|

 

Not according to a "scientist"........Seeing as you only like to believe edgermercated folk :D ..........

 

"Prof Mark Woolhouse of Edinburgh University is clear on the issue. “I think the UK is ahead at present and Europe is following us,” he told the Observer."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/13/is-europes-covid-wave-coming-here-or-is-britain-ahead-of-the-curve

 

Or is he just trying to be popular? >:-) ...............

 

 

Since that article was writen we have had a rise in cases.

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pelmetman - 2021-11-22 10:42 AM

 

Oh dear oh dear *-) ..........

 

The squad clearly hate the thought that Boris and Brexit Blighty might be handling the Pandemic better than their EU heros :-| .........

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/covid-news-uk-europe-cases-infection-christmas_uk_619b57b3e4b07fe2010de26f?yptr=yahoo

 

What sad misrable LOSERS they are (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

 

Titter! UK 'In A Very Different Position' To The Rest Of Europe With Covid, Minister Says

 

Thats alright then. A Tory Minister says all is well so that must be true right?

 

He is partly right because Europe got the blighty virus much later than we got it after we produced it and infected them all with it but cases are rising here and particularly in the South West, South East, East Midlands and East of England.

 

Mask wearing reduces infection chances by 53% apparently but "The Clown" is deliberately going around without wearing one, clearly to send a message to his dumb as fcuk followers that its all over.

 

We are in a very different position to the rest of Europe though. We have a leader who is bat sh1t crazy and only concerned for himself and his popularity.

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Depends on what you read, and how you read it, doesn't it? This is from the transcript of Scully's Talk Radio interview, as in Dave's link.

 

"We will always work on the latest data, but we want to make sure – we don’t see anything yet that suggests we’re going anywhere near plan B."

 

You and a friend are standing on a railway line, and someone shouts that a train is coming. Your friends steps off the track, but you stay where you are, saying "I want to be sure". The train comes, and your dying words are "Now I'm sure"! That is the difference.

 

Who would you rather be, your living friend, or your dead self? The one takes note of a warning of a fatal event, and acts, the other awaits proof positive. It is called the pile of bodies syndrome.

 

His boss subscribes to the same philosophy, see the favourite organ of the Tory faithful, here: https://tinyurl.com/5bwhujcm

 

Whatever advice is given, from whatever reliable and respected source, if it conflicts with their instincts it is pushed aside in favour of inaction, on the basis that it may never happen so is not worth spending time and money averting. Until, of course, it happens - when it is a) recognised too late to avert, and b) more expensive emergency measures are required - which then take time to implement while the disaster rolls on, leading to even worse outcomes, hostile public opinion, panic, further emergency measures, yet more, even more expensive, emergency measures, and so on and on.

 

Eventually, having spent a King's ransom on only partially effective panic measures the tide turns and a resounding victory is declared, with the victors standing on the pile of bodies their earlier inaction caused. The classic defence then is that no-one can actually prove that the actions they might have taken would have significantly altered the outcome, so wait and see was the prudent stance.

 

It is government by hubris and cognitive dissonance. It is not new. Boris, the classicist, should know all about it: the historic precedents are numerous.

 

This is a government for the good times, that would in ay case have left an expensive legacy for its successor to put right, that has found itself governing in the bad times - with which it is emotionally unable to cope, and so remains standing on the railway line waiting to see what others can already see.

 

Of course, we shall all pay the eventual price for that - when I suspect that many of the Tory bourgeoisie will deny their role in bringing it about.

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pelmetman - 2021-11-22 10:42 AM

Oh dear oh dear *-) ..........

The squad clearly hate the thought that Boris and Brexit Blighty might be handling the Pandemic better than their EU heros :-| ........

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/covid-news-uk-europe-cases-infection-christmas_uk_619b57b3e4b07fe2010de26f?yptr=yahoo

What sad misrable LOSERS they are (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Depends on what you read, and how you read it, doesn't it? This is from the transcript of Scully's Talk Radio interview, as in Dave's link.

 

"We will always work on the latest data, but we want to make sure – we don’t see anything yet that suggests we’re going anywhere near plan B."

 

So, you and a friend are standing on a railway line, and someone shouts that a train is coming. Your friends steps off the track, but you stay where you are, saying "I want to be sure". The train comes, and your dying words are "Now I'm sure"! That is the difference.

 

Who would you rather be, your living friend, or your dead self? The one takes note of a warning of a fatal event, and acts, the other awaits proof positive. It is called the pile of bodies syndrome.

 

His boss subscribes to the same philosophy, see the favourite organ of the Tory faithful, here: https://tinyurl.com/5bwhujcm

 

Whatever advice is given, from whatever reliable and respected source, if it conflicts with their instincts it is pushed aside in favour of inaction, on the basis that it may never happen so is not worth spending time and money averting. Until, of course, it happens - when it is a) recognised too late to avert, and b) more expensive emergency measures are required - which then take time to implement while the disaster rolls on, leading to even worse outcomes, hostile public opinion, panic, further emergency measures, yet more, even more expensive, emergency measures, and so on and on.

 

Eventually, having spent a King's ransom on only partially effective panic measures the tide turns and a resounding victory is declared, with the victors standing on the pile of bodies their earlier inaction caused. The classic defence then is that no-one can actually prove that the actions they might have taken would have significantly altered the outcome, so wait and see was the prudent stance.

 

It is government by hubris and cognitive dissonance. It is not new. Boris, the classicist, should know all about it: the historic precedents are numerous.

 

This is a government for the good times, that would in ay case have left an expensive legacy for its successor to put right, that has found itself governing in the bad times - with which it is emotionally unable to cope, and so remains standing on the railway line waiting to see what others can already see.

 

Of course, we shall all pay the eventual price for that - when I suspect that many of the Tory bourgeoisie will deny their role in bringing it about.

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mtravel - 2021-11-22 11:04 AM

 

pelmetman - 2021-11-22 11:49 AM

 

... "Prof Mark Woolhouse of Edinburgh University is clear on the issue. “I think the UK is ahead at present and Europe is following us,” he told the Observer."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/13/is-europes-covid-wave-coming-here-or-is-britain-ahead-of-the-curve

 

Or is he just trying to be popular? >:-) ...............

 

 

Don't know.

We are actually looking at you just as a laboratory in order to understand what not to do.

 

 

Is that why the EU ended up at the back of the vaccine queue? ;-) ...........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-11-22 10:42 AM

Oh dear oh dear *-) ..........

The squad clearly hate the thought that Boris and Brexit Blighty might be handling the Pandemic better than their EU heros :-| ........

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/covid-news-uk-europe-cases-infection-christmas_uk_619b57b3e4b07fe2010de26f?yptr=yahoo

What sad misrable LOSERS they are (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Depends on what you read, and how you read it, doesn't it? This is from the transcript of Scully's Talk Radio interview, as in Dave's link.

 

"We will always work on the latest data, but we want to make sure – we don’t see anything yet that suggests we’re going anywhere near plan B."

 

So, you and a friend are standing on a railway line, and someone shouts that a train is coming. Your friends steps off the track, but you stay where you are, saying "I want to be sure". The train comes, and your dying words are "Now I'm sure"! That is the difference.

 

Who would you rather be, your living friend, or your dead self? The one takes note of a warning of a fatal event, and acts, the other awaits proof positive. It is called the pile of bodies syndrome.

 

His boss subscribes to the same philosophy, see the favourite organ of the Tory faithful, here: https://tinyurl.com/5bwhujcm

 

Whatever advice is given, from whatever reliable and respected source, if it conflicts with their instincts it is pushed aside in favour of inaction, on the basis that it may never happen so is not worth spending time and money averting. Until, of course, it happens - when it is a) recognised too late to avert, and b) more expensive emergency measures are required - which then take time to implement while the disaster rolls on, leading to even worse outcomes, hostile public opinion, panic, further emergency measures, yet more, even more expensive, emergency measures, and so on and on.

 

Eventually, having spent a King's ransom on only partially effective panic measures the tide turns and a resounding victory is declared, with the victors standing on the pile of bodies their earlier inaction caused. The classic defence then is that no-one can actually prove that the actions they might have taken would have significantly altered the outcome, so wait and see was the prudent stance.

 

It is government by hubris and cognitive dissonance. It is not new. Boris, the classicist, should know all about it: the historic precedents are numerous.

 

This is a government for the good times, that would in ay case have left an expensive legacy for its successor to put right, that has found itself governing in the bad times - with which it is emotionally unable to cope, and so remains standing on the railway line waiting to see what others can already see.

 

Of course, we shall all pay the eventual price for that - when I suspect that many of the Tory bourgeoisie will deny their role in bringing it about.

 

So you'll ignore the EU bourgeoisie, like Macron the Moron and Co slagging off AZ and in doing so adding fuel to the EU's antvaxxer idiots fire? *-) ..........

 

Obviously those blinkers EU LOSERS wear are very selective in what they allow you to see (lol) (lol) (lol) ........

 

 

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John52 - 2021-11-22 7:53 AM

 

Why do you think their introducing a lock down suggests they are not managing it better than Johnson?

 

Dave?

Is it because you think the EU is like Johnson and wouldn't introduce a lock down until the situation is dire?

 

Nope I think its because Boris opened us up early in the summer, as he knew we couldn't stop the Delta varient from spreading, so much better to allow it to do its worst in the summer months :-| ............

 

Where as in the EU they have let it run riot just in time for winter 8-) ............

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:02 PM

 

Brian Kirby - 2021-11-22 12:12 PM

 

pelmetman - 2021-11-22 10:42 AM

Oh dear oh dear *-) ..........

The squad clearly hate the thought that Boris and Brexit Blighty might be handling the Pandemic better than their EU heros :-| ........

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/covid-news-uk-europe-cases-infection-christmas_uk_619b57b3e4b07fe2010de26f?yptr=yahoo

What sad misrable LOSERS they are (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Depends on what you read, and how you read it, doesn't it? This is from the transcript of Scully's Talk Radio interview, as in Dave's link.

 

"We will always work on the latest data, but we want to make sure – we don’t see anything yet that suggests we’re going anywhere near plan B."

 

So, you and a friend are standing on a railway line, and someone shouts that a train is coming. Your friends steps off the track, but you stay where you are, saying "I want to be sure". The train comes, and your dying words are "Now I'm sure"! That is the difference.

 

Who would you rather be, your living friend, or your dead self? The one takes note of a warning of a fatal event, and acts, the other awaits proof positive. It is called the pile of bodies syndrome.

 

His boss subscribes to the same philosophy, see the favourite organ of the Tory faithful, here: https://tinyurl.com/5bwhujcm

 

Whatever advice is given, from whatever reliable and respected source, if it conflicts with their instincts it is pushed aside in favour of inaction, on the basis that it may never happen so is not worth spending time and money averting. Until, of course, it happens - when it is a) recognised too late to avert, and b) more expensive emergency measures are required - which then take time to implement while the disaster rolls on, leading to even worse outcomes, hostile public opinion, panic, further emergency measures, yet more, even more expensive, emergency measures, and so on and on.

 

Eventually, having spent a King's ransom on only partially effective panic measures the tide turns and a resounding victory is declared, with the victors standing on the pile of bodies their earlier inaction caused. The classic defence then is that no-one can actually prove that the actions they might have taken would have significantly altered the outcome, so wait and see was the prudent stance.

 

It is government by hubris and cognitive dissonance. It is not new. Boris, the classicist, should know all about it: the historic precedents are numerous.

 

This is a government for the good times, that would in ay case have left an expensive legacy for its successor to put right, that has found itself governing in the bad times - with which it is emotionally unable to cope, and so remains standing on the railway line waiting to see what others can already see.

 

Of course, we shall all pay the eventual price for that - when I suspect that many of the Tory bourgeoisie will deny their role in bringing it about.

 

So you'll ignore the EU bourgeoisie, like Macron the Moron and Co slagging off AZ and in doing so adding fuel to the EU's antvaxxer idiots fire? *-) ..........

 

Obviously those blinkers EU LOSERS wear are very selective in what they allow you to see (lol) (lol) (lol) ........

 

 

Little question for you, a yes or no answer will suffice.

 

Is the AstraZeneca vaccine still being used in the UK?

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John52 - 2021-11-22 7:53 AM

 

Why do you think their introducing a lock down suggests they are not managing it better than Johnson?

 

Dave?

Is it because you think the EU is like Johnson and wouldn't introduce a lock down until the situation is dire?

 

Nope I think its because Boris opened us up early in the summer, as he knew we couldn't stop the Delta varient from spreading, so much better to allow it to do its worst in the summer months :-| ............

 

Where as in the EU they have let it run riot just in time for winter 8-) ............

 

 

Only it isn't panning out like that, UK cases are on the rise again after the half term lull. My area seems to have always led the way for rest of country, and the last week or so CV-19 infections and deaths have increased by worrying amounts, if this continues we will have a very bad winter even after killing thousands through summer and autumn.

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pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:02 PM

 

Brian Kirby - 2021-11-22 12:12 PM

 

pelmetman - 2021-11-22 10:42 AM

Oh dear oh dear *-) ..........

The squad clearly hate the thought that Boris and Brexit Blighty might be handling the Pandemic better than their EU heros :-| ........

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/covid-news-uk-europe-cases-infection-christmas_uk_619b57b3e4b07fe2010de26f?yptr=yahoo

What sad misrable LOSERS they are (lol) (lol) (lol) ..........

Depends on what you read, and how you read it, doesn't it? This is from the transcript of Scully's Talk Radio interview, as in Dave's link.

 

"We will always work on the latest data, but we want to make sure – we don’t see anything yet that suggests we’re going anywhere near plan B."

 

So, you and a friend are standing on a railway line, and someone shouts that a train is coming. Your friends steps off the track, but you stay where you are, saying "I want to be sure". The train comes, and your dying words are "Now I'm sure"! That is the difference.

 

Who would you rather be, your living friend, or your dead self? The one takes note of a warning of a fatal event, and acts, the other awaits proof positive. It is called the pile of bodies syndrome.

 

His boss subscribes to the same philosophy, see the favourite organ of the Tory faithful, here: https://tinyurl.com/5bwhujcm

 

Whatever advice is given, from whatever reliable and respected source, if it conflicts with their instincts it is pushed aside in favour of inaction, on the basis that it may never happen so is not worth spending time and money averting. Until, of course, it happens - when it is a) recognised too late to avert, and b) more expensive emergency measures are required - which then take time to implement while the disaster rolls on, leading to even worse outcomes, hostile public opinion, panic, further emergency measures, yet more, even more expensive, emergency measures, and so on and on.

 

Eventually, having spent a King's ransom on only partially effective panic measures the tide turns and a resounding victory is declared, with the victors standing on the pile of bodies their earlier inaction caused. The classic defence then is that no-one can actually prove that the actions they might have taken would have significantly altered the outcome, so wait and see was the prudent stance.

 

It is government by hubris and cognitive dissonance. It is not new. Boris, the classicist, should know all about it: the historic precedents are numerous.

 

This is a government for the good times, that would in ay case have left an expensive legacy for its successor to put right, that has found itself governing in the bad times - with which it is emotionally unable to cope, and so remains standing on the railway line waiting to see what others can already see.

 

Of course, we shall all pay the eventual price for that - when I suspect that many of the Tory bourgeoisie will deny their role in bringing it about.

 

So you'll ignore the EU bourgeoisie, like Macron the Moron and Co slagging off AZ and in doing so adding fuel to the EU's antvaxxer idiots fire? *-) ..........

 

Obviously those blinkers EU LOSERS wear are very selective in what they allow you to see (lol) (lol) (lol) ........

 

 

Little question for you, a yes or no answer will suffice.

 

Is the AstraZeneca vaccine still being used in the UK?

 

Yep ;-) ...........

 

"Around 48.9 million doses of the AstraZeneca jab have been administered across the UK so far up to 1 September, according to official estimates – equivalent to almost 53 per cent of all jabs handed out in Britain.

 

It is one of three Covid jabs currently being administered for first and second doses in Britain, alongside the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines."

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-not-offered-booster-jab-rollout-1199287

 

 

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Yep ;-) ...........

 

"Around 48.9 million doses of the AstraZeneca jab have been administered across the UK so far up to 1 September, according to official estimates – equivalent to almost 53 per cent of all jabs handed out in Britain.

 

It is one of three Covid jabs currently being administered for first and second doses in Britain, alongside the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines."

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-not-offered-booster-jab-rollout-1199287

 

Nope. From your link:

 

"The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) recommended a “mix and match” approach to the booster rollout, with both the Pfizer and Moderna jabs to be given to all those eligible regardless of whether they received other vaccines including the AstraZeneca jab as one of their previous doses.

 

Professor Wei Shen Lim, chair of Covid-19 Immunisation for the JCVI, said the committee selected the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines because they use mRNA technologies, which he claimed provided “a very good immune boost” in studies.

 

There is understood to be more available scientific evidence about the long-term efficacy of mRNA jabs over other vaccines.

 

The JCVI cited data from the Cov-Boost trial published last week by University Hospital Southampton, which indicated that the Pfizer vaccine is well-tolerated as a third dose among patients and provides a strong booster response."

 

We were instructed to stop using AZ for either first, second or booster in the middle of September.

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John52 - 2021-11-22 12:58 PM

 

John52 - 2021-11-22 7:53 AM

 

Why do you think their introducing a lock down suggests they are not managing it better than Johnson?

 

Dave?

Is it because you think the EU is like Johnson and wouldn't introduce a lock down until the situation is dire?

 

Nope I think its because Boris opened us up early in the summer, as he knew we couldn't stop the Delta varient from spreading, so much better to allow it to do its worst in the summer months :-| ............

 

Where as in the EU they have let it run riot just in time for winter 8-) ............

 

 

Only it isn't panning out like that, UK cases are on the rise again after the half term lull. My area seems to have always led the way for rest of country, and the last week or so CV-19 infections and deaths have increased by worrying amounts, if this continues we will have a very bad winter even after killing thousands through summer and autumn.

 

We're heading into winter, so cases were always going to rise :-| .......

 

The difference is that our vaccine take up has been superiour to the EU's despite what the forums EU lovers would have you believe ;-) .......

 

We're queing up for our boosters where many in the EU are still refusing even their first jab 8-) .........

 

Which is why the Fourth Reich are now donning their Jack Boots to make it compulsary, because Merkel & Macron F*cked up when they slagged off AZ *-) ..........

 

Worra pair of Cretins :-| .........

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Yep ;-) ...........

 

"Around 48.9 million doses of the AstraZeneca jab have been administered across the UK so far up to 1 September, according to official estimates – equivalent to almost 53 per cent of all jabs handed out in Britain.

 

It is one of three Covid jabs currently being administered for first and second doses in Britain, alongside the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines."

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-not-offered-booster-jab-rollout-1199287

 

Nope. From your link:

 

"The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) recommended a “mix and match” approach to the booster rollout, with both the Pfizer and Moderna jabs to be given to all those eligible regardless of whether they received other vaccines including the AstraZeneca jab as one of their previous doses.

 

Professor Wei Shen Lim, chair of Covid-19 Immunisation for the JCVI, said the committee selected the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines because they use mRNA technologies, which he claimed provided “a very good immune boost” in studies.

 

There is understood to be more available scientific evidence about the long-term efficacy of mRNA jabs over other vaccines.

 

The JCVI cited data from the Cov-Boost trial published last week by University Hospital Southampton, which indicated that the Pfizer vaccine is well-tolerated as a third dose among patients and provides a strong booster response."

 

We were instructed to stop using AZ for either first, second or booster in the middle of September.

 

So where does it say AZ is no longer being used in the UK for first or second jabs? ;-) .........

 

 

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pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:07 PM

 

John52 - 2021-11-22 12:58 PM

 

John52 - 2021-11-22 7:53 AM

 

Why do you think their introducing a lock down suggests they are not managing it better than Johnson?

 

Dave?

Is it because you think the EU is like Johnson and wouldn't introduce a lock down until the situation is dire?

 

Nope I think its because Boris opened us up early in the summer, as he knew we couldn't stop the Delta varient from spreading, so much better to allow it to do its worst in the summer months :-| ............

 

Where as in the EU they have let it run riot just in time for winter 8-) ............

 

 

Only it isn't panning out like that, UK cases are on the rise again after the half term lull. My area seems to have always led the way for rest of country, and the last week or so CV-19 infections and deaths have increased by worrying amounts, if this continues we will have a very bad winter even after killing thousands through summer and autumn.

 

We're heading into winter, so cases were always going to rise :-| .......

 

So you now disagree with your earlier post.

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pelmetman - 2021-11-22 2:12 PM

 

CurtainRaiser - 2021-11-22 2:04 PM

 

pelmetman - 2021-11-22 1:53 PM

 

Yep ;-) ...........

 

"Around 48.9 million doses of the AstraZeneca jab have been administered across the UK so far up to 1 September, according to official estimates – equivalent to almost 53 per cent of all jabs handed out in Britain.

 

It is one of three Covid jabs currently being administered for first and second doses in Britain, alongside the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines."

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/astrazeneca-vaccine-not-offered-booster-jab-rollout-1199287

 

Nope. From your link:

 

"The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) recommended a “mix and match” approach to the booster rollout, with both the Pfizer and Moderna jabs to be given to all those eligible regardless of whether they received other vaccines including the AstraZeneca jab as one of their previous doses.

 

Professor Wei Shen Lim, chair of Covid-19 Immunisation for the JCVI, said the committee selected the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines because they use mRNA technologies, which he claimed provided “a very good immune boost” in studies.

 

There is understood to be more available scientific evidence about the long-term efficacy of mRNA jabs over other vaccines.

 

The JCVI cited data from the Cov-Boost trial published last week by University Hospital Southampton, which indicated that the Pfizer vaccine is well-tolerated as a third dose among patients and provides a strong booster response."

 

We were instructed to stop using AZ for either first, second or booster in the middle of September.

 

So where does it say AZ is no longer being used in the UK for first or second jabs? ;-) .........

 

 

Where does it say it is? You posted this as evidence that it is still used, it isn't. Prove me wrong.

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