Guest pelmetman Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Well that's what the Squad would be saying about Boris if the first cases were here >:-) ........... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10245459/Fears-Christmas-travel-ban-DELAY-new-Covid-strain.html After all you'd think the home of the EU would have of got its act together after 2 years of Pandemic? *-) ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Because we have more than 50,000 cases today, we are unable and indeed have been unable for some time to genetic sequence the positive tests, so the new variant may already be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 The rellies came back from RSA a couple of days back, their kids will in school next week, if it has evaded the test then they could well be spreading it. From your link Passengers trying to land in Holland after a long haul flight from South Africa were kept on tarmac today Stark contrast to UK, where passengers flew into Heathrow and mingled with others, were not tested for virus Seems to be saying we are being much too lax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 colin - 2021-11-26 9:31 PM The rellies came back from RSA a couple of days back, their kids will in school next week, if it has evaded the test then they could well be spreading it. From your link Passengers trying to land in Holland after a long haul flight from South Africa were kept on tarmac today Stark contrast to UK, where passengers flew into Heathrow and mingled with others, were not tested for virus Seems to be saying we are being much too lax. He wouldn't have got as far as your linked quote and if he did, he'd have "read it" as "Boris has Brexit Blighty fully protected" *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Bulletguy - 2021-11-26 11:03 PM colin - 2021-11-26 9:31 PM The rellies came back from RSA a couple of days back, their kids will in school next week, if it has evaded the test then they could well be spreading it. From your link Passengers trying to land in Holland after a long haul flight from South Africa were kept on tarmac today Stark contrast to UK, where passengers flew into Heathrow and mingled with others, were not tested for virus Seems to be saying we are being much too lax. He wouldn't have got as far as your linked quote and if he did, he'd have "read it" as "Boris has Brexit Blighty fully protected" *-) Skewered Him Again (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 There is now a rush to get back before quarantine. https://inews.co.uk/news/world/omicron-covid-variant-new-travellers-leave-south-africa-johannesburg-airport-flights-1322227 We now know that the flight into Schiphol had 61 positive cases despite them having being tested before the flight, so we can guess that similar are coming into UK, and they where freely mixing with those from other flights. I don't understand this waiting until Sunday before quarantine, if it's such a concern do it straight away. Now to answer Dave's question in the thread title, it would seem that Belgium raised the alert as soon as they knew the patient had the Omicron variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtainRaiser Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-26 6:17 PM Well that's what the Squad would be saying about Boris if the first cases were here >:-) ........... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10245459/Fears-Christmas-travel-ban-DELAY-new-Covid-strain.html After all you'd think the home of the EU would have of got its act together after 2 years of Pandemic? *-) ........ "We have been made aware by @UKHSA of two UK cases of the Omicron variant. The two cases are linked and there is a connection with travel to southern Africa. These individuals are self-isolating with their households while further testing and contact tracing is underway." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 We are aware about this Colin. We have now some sort of lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 i live close to the dutch Border.. And we interface Each. I had My thirds phisher shot. But the mutations going on. It looks that Tomorrow never comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 And we enter a new world War. On this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 The government are now trying to contact 5,000 people who have come from RSA over the last few weeks, and the tens of thousands who attended the rugby match, well I've just been informed one of those has Covid, which variant we don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-26 6:17 PM Well that's what the Squad would be saying about Boris if the first cases were here >:-) ........... We don't know if we have any cases - may be we just haven't found them yet. :-| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 malc d - 2021-11-27 4:07 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-26 6:17 PM Well that's what the Squad would be saying about Boris if the first cases were here >:-) ........... We don't know if we have any cases - may be we just haven't found them yet. :-| We do now, Malc: see CR's 2:11 post above, and his link to Javid's Tweet. Two (presumably confirmed) cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 malc d - 2021-11-27 4:07 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-26 6:17 PM Well that's what the Squad would be saying about Boris if the first cases were here >:-) ........... We don't know if we have any cases - may be we just haven't found them yet. :-| We now know of UK cases, what we don't know is if some came here earlier, it might well be that Belgium raising awareness has made UK check more PCR tests from RSA travellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John52 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-26 6:17 PM Well that's what the Squad would be saying about Boris if the first cases were here >:-) ........... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10245459/Fears-Christmas-travel-ban-DELAY-new-Covid-strain.html After all you'd think the home of the EU would have of got its act together after 2 years of Pandemic? *-) ........ Why didn't 'Boris' do something before it arrived here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Brian Kirby - 2021-11-27 4:43 PM malc d - 2021-11-27 4:07 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-26 6:17 PM Well that's what the Squad would be saying about Boris if the first cases were here >:-) ........... We don't know if we have any cases - may be we just haven't found them yet. :-| We do now, Malc: see CR's 2:11 post above, and his link to Javid's Tweet. Two (presumably confirmed) cases. So I see yes, I missed out on that news because I heard Boris Johnson was due to appear on TV - so I switched off. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 colin - 2021-11-27 1:24 PM There is now a rush to get back before quarantine. https://inews.co.uk/news/world/omicron-covid-variant-new-travellers-leave-south-africa-johannesburg-airport-flights-1322227 We now know that the flight into Schiphol had 61 positive cases despite them having being tested before the flight, so we can guess that similar are coming into UK, and they where freely mixing with those from other flights. I don't understand this waiting until Sunday before quarantine, if it's such a concern do it straight away. Now to answer Dave's question in the thread title, it would seem that Belgium raised the alert as soon as they knew the patient had the Omicron variant. Except that one who tested positive for the new variant had never been to Africa 8-) .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 pelmetman - 2021-11-27 8:30 PM colin - 2021-11-27 1:24 PM There is now a rush to get back before quarantine. https://inews.co.uk/news/world/omicron-covid-variant-new-travellers-leave-south-africa-johannesburg-airport-flights-1322227 We now know that the flight into Schiphol had 61 positive cases despite them having being tested before the flight, so we can guess that similar are coming into UK, and they where freely mixing with those from other flights. I don't understand this waiting until Sunday before quarantine, if it's such a concern do it straight away. Now to answer Dave's question in the thread title, it would seem that Belgium raised the alert as soon as they knew the patient had the Omicron variant. Except that one who tested positive for the new variant had never been to Africa 8-) .......... Unless there's been further developments I haven't heard of, the patient had visited Egypt and came back through Turkey, FYI Egypt is in Africa. Anyway that appears to be not our problem anymore, we have our own cases who have travelled back from RSA, last I heard it was up to 3, but haven't checked lately, I believe restrictions are now slowly beginning, starting with face masks in enclosed spaces. p.s. I have family who are trying to emigrate out of RSA to Australia, this isn't going to help them, and I have more immediate worries with immune supressed family in this country. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 colin - 2021-11-27 8:42 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-27 8:30 PM colin - 2021-11-27 1:24 PM There is now a rush to get back before quarantine. https://inews.co.uk/news/world/omicron-covid-variant-new-travellers-leave-south-africa-johannesburg-airport-flights-1322227 We now know that the flight into Schiphol had 61 positive cases despite them having being tested before the flight, so we can guess that similar are coming into UK, and they where freely mixing with those from other flights. I don't understand this waiting until Sunday before quarantine, if it's such a concern do it straight away. Now to answer Dave's question in the thread title, it would seem that Belgium raised the alert as soon as they knew the patient had the Omicron variant. Except that one who tested positive for the new variant had never been to Africa 8-) .......... Unless there's been further developments I haven't heard of, the patient had visited Egypt and came back through Turkey, FYI Egypt is in Africa. Anyway that appears to be not our problem anymore, we have our own cases who have travelled back from RSA, last I heard it was up to 3, but haven't checked lately, I believe restrictions are now slowly beginning, starting with face masks in enclosed spaces. p.s. I have family who are trying to emigrate out of RSA to Australia, this isn't going to help them, and I have more immediate worries with immune supressed family in this country. :-( From what I've read the other patient hadn't left Belgium :-| ............ So at least the squad cant blame Boris for a change ;-) .......... p.s......We have the same worries with my SIL and have tried our best now for 2 years to ensure we don't catch or pass the lurgy to her........Neverless I don't blame Boris or the EU for our situation :-| .............. China was the source of this virus and the culprit >:-( ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 colin - 2021-11-27 8:42 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-27 8:30 PM colin - 2021-11-27 1:24 PM There is now a rush to get back before quarantine. https://inews.co.uk/news/world/omicron-covid-variant-new-travellers-leave-south-africa-johannesburg-airport-flights-1322227 We now know that the flight into Schiphol had 61 positive cases despite them having being tested before the flight, so we can guess that similar are coming into UK, and they where freely mixing with those from other flights. I don't understand this waiting until Sunday before quarantine, if it's such a concern do it straight away. Now to answer Dave's question in the thread title, it would seem that Belgium raised the alert as soon as they knew the patient had the Omicron variant. Except that one who tested positive for the new variant had never been to Africa 8-) .......... Unless there's been further developments I haven't heard of, the patient had visited Egypt and came back through Turkey, FYI Egypt is in Africa. Anyway that appears to be not our problem anymore, we have our own cases who have travelled back from RSA, last I heard it was up to 3, but haven't checked lately, I believe restrictions are now slowly beginning, starting with face masks in enclosed spaces. p.s. I have family who are trying to emigrate out of RSA to Australia, this isn't going to help them, and I have more immediate worries with immune supressed family in this country. :-( There are two so far according to this; One case has been located in the Chelmsford area and the other in Nottingham. The two cases are linked and there is a link to travel to Southern Africa. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/first-uk-cases-of-omicron-variant-identified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Bulletguy - 2021-11-27 10:15 PM colin - 2021-11-27 8:42 PM pelmetman - 2021-11-27 8:30 PM colin - 2021-11-27 1:24 PM There is now a rush to get back before quarantine. https://inews.co.uk/news/world/omicron-covid-variant-new-travellers-leave-south-africa-johannesburg-airport-flights-1322227 We now know that the flight into Schiphol had 61 positive cases despite them having being tested before the flight, so we can guess that similar are coming into UK, and they where freely mixing with those from other flights. I don't understand this waiting until Sunday before quarantine, if it's such a concern do it straight away. Now to answer Dave's question in the thread title, it would seem that Belgium raised the alert as soon as they knew the patient had the Omicron variant. Except that one who tested positive for the new variant had never been to Africa 8-) .......... Unless there's been further developments I haven't heard of, the patient had visited Egypt and came back through Turkey, FYI Egypt is in Africa. Anyway that appears to be not our problem anymore, we have our own cases who have travelled back from RSA, last I heard it was up to 3, but haven't checked lately, I believe restrictions are now slowly beginning, starting with face masks in enclosed spaces. p.s. I have family who are trying to emigrate out of RSA to Australia, this isn't going to help them, and I have more immediate worries with immune supressed family in this country. :-( There are two so far according to this; One case has been located in the Chelmsford area and the other in Nottingham. The two cases are linked and there is a link to travel to Southern Africa. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/first-uk-cases-of-omicron-variant-identified It seems there maybe some confusion as originally it was listed as Brentwood and Nottingham, I had assumed on hearing Chelmsford this was another case. Whatever I'm betting there are other cases, certainly .gov thinks so and are trying to trace thousands of people, some of whom might have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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