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userForester
Posted: 3 September 2006 4:30 AM
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We have just got our 1st van it's a 1989 fiat petrol. Has anyone got any advice/tips on this van where to get the best awning (nylon) how can i upgrade to a 13kg propane gas bottle from a sml blue one, can it be done?

Here's hoping for many w/end & days away

Wayne/Maggie 

userhowie
Posted: 3 September 2006 1:33 PM
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First up, how come you posted this message at 4.30 in the morning. I have trouble getting to sleep but not this bad. You don,t say which type of awning you are looking for but most of the motorhome mags. have adverts covering fixed and freestanding awnings. How about second hand which seem to be plentyful and only used once etc. We already had the fixed pull out roof awning on our van when we bought it so went for the safari room option, but otherwise would have gone for freestanding as you can move on and off site more easily and mark your pitch. Putting in the larger propane bottle should not cause any problems as long as you have a safe and secure place for it and the payload to match. I think it,s better to use two bottles instead of the one larger one as you always find the single will run out when you need it most. At least with two you can just switch over and refill at your leisure. Howard.
userForester
Posted: 5 September 2006 5:06 AM
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Hi Howard.

I have probs sleeping (old age & povertey) being new to all this i will take your advice and get 2xsml botts (gas) the awning i'm looking for is if poss, a nylon one & free standing 2nd hand if poss, my van is a hightop one.Motorhome mags can you suggest a good one for 2nd hand vans the MMM one has not got much in that applys to me! do they do "a exchang/mart" type mag for used vans?

Cheers Wayne.

userhowie
Posted: 5 September 2006 10:04 AM
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How about a gazebo Wayne. A lot of the guys use them on the sites I use and some are available with side panels. Prices start at around £20 and while quality wise they are not going to stand the test of time, you should get a year or two out of them. MMM is to upmarket with regards to second hand gear, but both of the club magazines always have a good selection of what you are looking for. Perhaps you could try e.bay or even this forum which I think offers second hand or exchange items. My own safari room was home built, and while I saved a couple of bob it caused a lot of strife and was hard going. ( my sister still wants to know what happened to her old caravan awning that I borrowed off her some time ago ). If you have trouble finding room for your bottles you could fit the biggest one possible and buy one of those small camping ones as cover. I always use red bottles ( always get Propane/Butane mixed up ) for use during really cold weather or just for warming the van up on frosty mornings. I,ll keep an eye open, but in the meantime why not ask on the main motorhome forum. You never know, but someone may have one they are not using.Howard.
userForester
Posted: 5 September 2006 10:24 AM
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Thanks Howard, keep em comming ,we want to know everything we can about motor-homes. We are off to the victory show (ww2 event ) in Leic fri afternoon for the w/end so I will let you know how we go on.

Regards Wayne/Maggie

userhowie
Posted: 5 September 2006 10:48 AM
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As long as you both have a sense of humour then learning from your mistakes is part of the fun. And don,t be afraid to ask for advise on site as most fellow campers will be only to glad to help if they can. Enjoy the weekend. Howard.
userSupertractorman
Posted: 5 September 2006 10:52 AM
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Wayne/Maggie

You should have no problem exchanging Calor bottles from small to large or Butane to Propane. I have one large and one small, if the large runs out I swap to the small, try and replace quickly and switch back to the newlarge. Like to try and keep weight down but make use of better value in large cylinder. ( Empty cylinders can quite often be got from a scrapman if lucky )

David
userhowie
Posted: 5 September 2006 12:19 PM
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Hiya David. Your right about exchanging large for small although it took a call from Calor to convince my local gas dealer. With regards to bottles from scrapyards, this is o.k. but don,t use them direct from this source as they tend to get a battering. Better to put them in for a straight swop and let Calor sort out the refill/servicing side of things. Howard.
userForester
Posted: 6 September 2006 6:36 AM
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Hiya.

We went to the gas dealer Tue and explained what we want, so we are taking it to them today when we pick "him" up i say "him" because he's got a long exhaust for a "fitting" as they say. By the way I DO have a sence of humor,Maggie says it's wicked (ex publican's ) 

Wayne.

userhowie
Posted: 6 September 2006 10:48 AM
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I,ve done a little work behind the bar Wayne, and it,s not a sense of humour you need, more the patience of a saint.
userForester
Posted: 6 September 2006 1:14 PM
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howardtcz - 2006-09-06 10:48 AM I,ve done a little work behind the bar Wayne, and it,s not a sense of humour you need, more the patience of a saint.

We have done 37years runng pubs/clubs/hotels.Had to finnish with osto arther in all my joint's. But glad we finnished as they serve ANYONE nowadays & threaten l/lords. Even the police refuse to come to your aid. ooops spamming this thread so lets go back to it.

Wayne.

userhowie
Posted: 7 September 2006 11:45 AM
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We run cricket, rugby and a football team from our local pub Wayne. All little league stuff but still enjoyable. For most of the youngsters when first joining, this can be a real shock to the system as for the first time in their lives it seems they have rules to obey with discipline, good behaviour and no bad language being the order of the day. No arty farty p.c. approach is used as they have a choice of a fine or a thick ear and surprisingly this always works. Not only that, but they come to appreciate and even enjoy knowing their place in the scheme of things, and respect for themselves and from the other team members is the main benifit I truly sympathise with all those years you spent behind the bar Wayne ( and Maggie as well no doubt ) but I believe if more youngsters were introduced to sport then your years in the trade would have been a lot easier. Tell you what, I missed my calling. Should have been a shrink. Howard.
userForester
Posted: 7 September 2006 1:30 PM
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Hiya Howard.

You are dead right there. More detail of my van (we have just picked it up ) Houldworth H.T.S Fanfare. if that is of any help?.

Wayne/Maggie

usermichele
Posted: 7 September 2006 3:01 PM
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Dear wayne,

please may i ask what it is you are going to this weekend again .
Can you tell more please as both my husband and I have a good interest in it WW2 .
can anyone go to this show

regards


michele
Or where can we find out about it.

Edited by michele 2006-09-07 3:23 PM
userhowie
Posted: 7 September 2006 5:11 PM
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Peter Holdsworth is widely recognised as one of the great innovaters re. motorhome designs Wayne, and though volume was low, quality was always in abundance. Don,t worry if you cannot find any information on your particular model, as apart from layout and design, most of the fittings and fixtures will be standard. You never know, but you might have one of the great classics on your hands and well worth looking after. Hang on . I,ve just found a cantact for you.


Sec. K.Way
16 Cherrytree Rd.
Seaview
Isle of Wight
PO34 5JF
Tel. 01983 613657

kerrywall@nettletone657.fsnet.co.uk

Open to owners of both Holdsworth and Cockburn Holdsworth motorcaravans. Regular newsletters, rallies and technical information.

This is the Holdsworth owners club, and the info. comes from page 141 of MMM. You could also drop a line to Martin Watts re. classic motorcaravaning . Again info on this can be found on page 204 of this months MMM. ............. Hiya Michele. Nice to see you up here. I,ll let Wayne fill you in on the details of the show. Sounds interesting. Howard
userDon Madge
Posted: 7 September 2006 5:16 PM
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Howard,

Don't you mean "Richard Holdsworth".

Don
userhowie
Posted: 7 September 2006 5:23 PM
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Sorry Don. Richard Holdsworth thats right. Time for my afternoon nap to top up my concentration levels i,m afraid. Howard
userForester
Posted: 8 September 2006 3:32 AM
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Hi everybody.

Maggie was cleaning the van out thursday and moved the cusions off the seat, how hard is it to put them back!! She mixed them with the others and can we put them back!! I'm not thick by any means but i'll be dammed if we can get them back. We have got 2 x propane gas (they told us what size) botts, theyare to big will they be alright to lie them down in the cupboard to use them & when MTY swop for smaller one's?

Wayne ps thanks again for the info Howard.  

userhowie
Posted: 8 September 2006 9:12 AM
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Wayne. Laying gas bottles on their sides is NOT advisable under any circumstances, otherwise you might find your van being the star attraction in this weekends flypast. Always store them upright. Don,t know about your cushions though. Your own fault for leaving a woman run amok without proper supervision and you should know better by now. Howard.
userForester
Posted: 12 September 2006 7:41 AM
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michele - 2006-09-07 3:01 PM Dear wayne, please may i ask what it is you are going to this weekend again . Can you tell more please as both my husband and I have a good interest in it WW2 . can anyone go to this show regards michele Or where can we find out about it.

Hi Michele.

We had a great w/end there were a huge "battle" involving about 200 troops-Brits/Germans/Yanks. It looked like the d-day landings = spitfire & hurriecane& byplane and last but not least about 5 to 6 hundred +ww2 reenactors. ww2 dispays by the army/airforce/yanks of how they lived in the 40s in the field of battle dugouts ect + the home guard recross and  the Sherwood Foresters (Notts&Derby reg ) which is what i do. If you want a insite to it can we suggest that you have a look at the 'Railway at War' 40s social & military w/end on the 30Sept-1st Oct at Chaple Brampton Northants. We think you will be supprised please don't take any dogs because of the noise, they have a ww2 battle on BOTH days if you do go let us know.

Wayne/Maggie.

userhowie
Posted: 12 September 2006 11:57 PM
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Sounds like you both enjoyed the weekend Wayne. Having the camper van seems ideal for your interests and hobbys and means you now have most of the home comforts for overnight stays. How did the van go anyway. Most probably you,ll have a few teething troubles and this is only to be expected, plus you will want to add your own personal touches. Something to keep you occupied over the coming winter months at least. Hope you don,t mind all the advice i,m pushing your way, but as someone who grew up with the top of an egg between six sort of background, its not in me to stand by and watch you spend good money on things you may not need . All the best to you and Maggie. Howard.
userForester
Posted: 13 September 2006 8:51 AM
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Hi Haword.

Keep all the info comming please & we don't mind atall.On friday we had a alarn & amobiliser fitted We arrived on the field at Cosby set our stall up then went posing in uniforms. got back sat outside as it was a lovley day when it started to go dark/cold we went inside put the lights on----nothing. We worked it out by mon that the amoboliser had cut the lot out so back to normal now. We have just bought a awning for the van a nice one too made by fiamma, Just need to get some bodywork done but struggling to get someone with a oven high enough to get it in. Glad you enjoyed Shepton Mallet it's a nice place.

Best regards Wayne 

usermichele
Posted: 13 September 2006 11:54 AM
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Dear wayne,

Thankyou for the info & story.

Hope you had a lovely time sound's like it . looking forward to the next part . Part three of the story the end of the tale with the twist.
userhowie
Posted: 13 September 2006 5:11 PM
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You seem to lead a varied and interesting life Michele. Why not give us an insight into your experiances and write a tale of your own. I was born at a very early age sort of thing, and just let it flow. Why does your husband spend so much time on the roof of your van. Whenever I need peace and quiet ,I scuttle off down to my garden shed where I can contemplate my latest wrongdoing or plot my revenge on the world , depending on my mood. Garden sheds are the last refuge known to man, and here at least my word is final, Mine is strictly out of bounds to everyone exept Bonnie the dog. She,s getting on a bit, and as long as I tickle her ears and give her lots of affection, she,s happy. This applies to the wife as well most of the time. So here in great anticipation I leave you. Howard.
usermichele
Posted: 13 September 2006 5:17 PM
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Howard,

Ok you first.

I will help you I was born in Newcastle Upon Tyne in 1961
Born in the General Hospital so I guess you could say I was a real Geordie,
Why I man You next
userMel B
Posted: 13 September 2006 8:55 PM
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As an aside, what strange places were people born ... me, in my Nan's pre-fab (in 1963 that is, they built things to last well after the war!).

Howardtcz - cheeky devil about the cushions! If a woman had designed the van in the first place they'd be easy to fit!
usermichele
Posted: 13 September 2006 11:02 PM
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& betty boothroyed said eye's to the left

the right has it ............................

and the women say hear hear hear
userhowie
Posted: 14 September 2006 12:36 AM
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I sense danger here. Possibly on both flanks. Could even be pre planned, and if that wasn,t bad enough iv,e got to keep checking the dictionary in case I make any more spelling mistakes. Whats the best approach though. Bluff. Grovel. Maybe I could blind them with science. No. This pair are too smart for that. Maybe if I waffle on long enough they will lose interest. Maybe a detailed account of having that camera up the rear end a fortnight ago, or how i,m worried about my teeth falling out as they seemed to have loosened up lately. Lets get rid of the dictionary first or i,ll be here all night. Dad was always good with words. I remember him taking me to one side as a youngster and explaining safe sex to me. It was embarrassing for him, but as the girl three doors down had already shown me the ins and outs so to speak I didn,t mind. He started off with the usual gaffs. Make sure the handbrakes on, always give someone elses name and address, that sort of thing, but two things he said have always stuck in my mind. First he told me to put it in doubled over. Is that safe dad I said. 100% son he replied, but you end up not knowing if you are coming or going. I miss my dad. Not many people know this, but he started the second World War. I follow my dad in many ways, and in my eyes he will always be tops. The other bit of adviSe he gave me was to always keep at least one foot on the floor. I never gave this much thought until two years ago when I spent the entire summer with my right leg encased in plaster from hip to ankle. (This part is true, and no, im not giving any explanations, you,ll have to use your own imaginations) I wonder if M&M have given up yet and gone to bed. If anybody from MMM is reading this, then you have my full permission to place this message in the your letters section. this also applies to the c.c. magazine. Make a refreshing change from how to keep the plonk cool while travelling through France don,t you think. Anyway, I think i,ve answered all your queries, and as the Prime Minister would say, time to put this all behind us and move on. Howard
userForester
Posted: 14 September 2006 8:13 AM
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To anybody who is interested in reliviving the days of ww2+40s they are all in uniforms/dress from kids to vets.You can talk/ask them Qs see the dress& weapons of the army/navy/airforce of most countrys  that fought during the war years, there will also be cars/transport/tanks spivs ladies in dress ect incl street singers all this is FREE to joe public. The town is Pickering in Yorkshire the dates are 15/16 Oct. Try it its a couple of free days out mingle with us & talk to us we don't bite.ps if any of you are going let me know.The whole town turns itself over to the 40s incl shops. The only prob is It's booked up for years in advance for b&bs camping spaces. You have to get there early, we will be there sat/sun I reccommend anyone to go to the event, It is held on Sat/Sun .  

userForester
Posted: 14 September 2006 8:17 AM
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Sorry forgot to mention, If any off you ladies out there that are comming to the event look for me & come over and you can handle my weapon (he he )

Wayne.

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