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usertsmith59
Posted: 15 September 2020 8:57 PM
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I purchased a 2004 fiat ducato motorhome earlier in the year. There is an alko plate under the bonnet that states maximum weight is 3850kg. A fiat plate that says 3500kg. A svtech sticker that says 3500kg. And also a national caravan council certificate from lunar that states 3850kg. My initial thought after some research was that the vehicle was down plated by svtech to 3500kg. However I have contacted them and they say their paperwork suggests they haven't. The log book has no weight so no information there. Just wondering if anyone can tell me what I should do. It isn't a practical payload at 3500kg but would it be difficult to up plate to 3850kg? If it isn't that already?
userdavidmac
Posted: 15 September 2020 9:11 PM
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Hi, Have you taxed it ? If the tax is £165 it will be registered at the higher weight, if the tax is £225 or thereabouts your weight will be 3500kg
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If you send SvTech a photo of your plate they might sort out the problem, they did for me with a previous motorhome I had.

Edited by davidmac 2020-09-15 9:14 PM
usertsmith59
Posted: 15 September 2020 9:17 PM
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Yes. I've taxed it. £270 a year. If that means it is 3500kg how difficult is it to change that?
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Posted: 15 September 2020 9:20 PM
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What is the 'Taxation class' shown on page 2 of your V5C?

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userstevec176
Posted: 15 September 2020 9:23 PM
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Don't forget that you'll need a C1 licence if you drive a vehicle over 3500kg, do you have one?
usertsmith59
Posted: 15 September 2020 9:26 PM
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Taxation class says Private Light Goods Vehicle
usertsmith59
Posted: 15 September 2020 9:28 PM
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Yes have a C1 and HGV Licence.
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Posted: 15 September 2020 9:51 PM
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tsmith59 - 2020-09-15 9:26 PM

Taxation class says Private Light Goods Vehicle


Then it is in the under 3,500 kg Light Goods Vehicle class and you do not require your C1 to drive it.

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Posted: 15 September 2020 9:56 PM
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tsmith59 - 2020-09-15 9:17 PM

Yes. I've taxed it. £270 a year. If that means it is 3500kg how difficult is it to change that?

As you have all the paperwork relating to 3,850 kg it should be a simple matter of applying to DVLA to get the previous downplating reversed.

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userHans
Posted: 20 September 2020 4:36 PM
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The AL-Ko plate under your bonnet 3850 means you have their chassis. Lucky man you are to have this..
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Posted: 20 September 2020 8:19 PM
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So, you should have no difficulty in increasing the MTPLM to 3850kg but, as a HGV licence holder, you will probably appreciate that just increasing the overall weight may not necessarily give you an extra 350 kg of useable payload as it may still be that you will very quickly reach the weight limit on one or other of the axles - usually the rear axle. The weight plate (and any replacement that SVTech provide in the future) will have the axle weights on and you will need to take the vehicle in full running order (fully loaded, diesel, water tank with as much water as you intend to carry, all passengers, bikes, food etc. Etc. and have the vehicle and both axles weighed separately on a public weighbridge. You could well find that even though you have increased the MTPLM to 3850kg your fully loaded van may exceed the rear axle weight limit before you get to 3850kg.

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