Corky 8 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Hi All, I am inquiring for a Motorhome friend who has just Bought a 2014 Auto Sleeper Nuevo. but has not got any of the Info books which normally accompany the Motorhome,, he wants to know if there is anyway around the using the Water butt pump method and directly filling the fresh water with a hose pipe, ? TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Hi Dennis, we had a 2011 A/S Executive with a similar, I think, infuriating Whale water filler. It may have worked OK on a caravan but it was a pain in the water butt to us. There has been a lot of discussion on various forums but my solution, as you would expect, was simple and direct and effective. I modified the external hose fitting that attached to the outside of the van to fit onto a conventional hose with tap fittings on t'other end and then I removed all of the interior gubbins and electrics and fed the inlet hose direct from the inlet into the tank. Job done, simples, minimal cost, no more problems or slow filling from a tap. The only downside was that the original system could not be used on site but that was not an issue for us - nor for the guy we sold the van to! Google something like 'whale motorhome water system problems' to see other comments. It's probably been on here too - but I am having trouble with the search facility!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Corky 8 - 2021-10-09 6:59 PM Hi All, I am inquiring for a Motorhome friend who has just Bought a 2014 Auto Sleeper Nuevo. but has not got any of the Info books which normally accompany the Motorhome,, he wants to know if there is anyway around the using the Water butt pump method and directly filling the fresh water with a hose pipe, ? TIA. A selection of older handbooks for Auto-Sleepers motorhomes can be found here (Peugeot Coachbuilts Archive will apply to older Nuevos) https://www.auto-sleepers.com/owners/handbooks There’s no specific entry for a 2014 Nuevo, but there are entries for 2012 and 2016 Nuevos and both of these show the ‘fill-from-a-container’ Whale water filling system. As Tracker has mentioned, there was plenty of discussion about Auto-Sleepers choosing to fit this ‘caravan’ system and it might be worth browsing through this forum’s relevant threads here https://tinyurl.com/tskc6cs This 2015 O&AL forum thread discussed alternative methods of water-filling https://forums.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/Motorhomes/Motorhome-Matters/Autosleepers-water-filling-system/38931/ The thread mentions the ASOF (Auto-Sleeper Motorhome Owners Forum) https://www.autosleeper-ownersforum.com/ and it would be worth your friend registering there as that’s where the expertise should be expected to lie regarding older AS motorhomes. (The AS handbook for current Peugeot coachbuilt motorhomes suggests that the Whale system is still the standard filling method - but I’m not sure if that’s actually so given how much criticism there has been about it. My understanding was that, at one stage, AS would allow a buyer to opt for a conventional 'hole-in-bodywork’ water-filler instead of (or as well as?) the Whale system.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakaleg Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Our 2021 Nuevo came with both type's of filling point, I can't see me ever using the whale type. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky 8 Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 Tracker ,Thanks very Much a great suggestion I will pass it on, as I have already told him home modification is the way, but I like the Idea of the connections you used, Thanks Mate keep safe. How come your Vanless Mate, hope its because your waiting on your new one being finished and delivered, Were Missing being able to go to France trouble free,our Daughter lives down Near St Julien , where we have spend quite some time , this year it was a 15 day tour over to Yorkshire coast then North up the coast to the top of Scotland then down the Middle, enjoyed it immensely, but still pine for France, Hope your not Vanless long .safe journeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky 8 Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 Thank you Derek, your always a mine of information,I have passed on all the links to David My traveling Friend, Now I am trying to convince to join this forum as the Information available just for the asking is Bountiful, Once again my grateful Thanks. Keep safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I vaguely recall - when this came up here in the past - it being said that it was possible to connect to a tap even if a motorhome had the Whale system. This was discussed on the MHFun forum in 2020 https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/whale-water-filling.213877/ and the Whale hose/adapter is shown on this link https://www.whalepumps.com/rv/product.aspx?Category_ID=10005&Product_ID=11&FriendlyID=Watermaster-Mains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Derek Uzzell - 2021-10-10 2:06 PM I vaguely recall - when this came up here in the past - it being said that it was possible to connect to a tap even if a motorhome had the Whale system. This was discussed on the MHFun forum in 2020 https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/threads/whale-water-filling.213877/ and the Whale hose/adapter is shown on this link https://www.whalepumps.com/rv/product.aspx?Category_ID=10005&Product_ID=11&FriendlyID=Watermaster-Mains Ours would fill from a tap but due to restrictions in and the design of the system it was VERY slow - just by pass it to remove the slowness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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