Bazzerk Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 Just a heads up if you are planning to visit the northwest. As from May next year any van/ motorhome euro5 and less (older than 2015) will be required to pay £10 per day when using their vehicle within Greater Manchester, that's all 493 sq miles of it not just the city centre. Residents will be given 12 months grace to comply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 https://cleanairgm.com/clean-air-plans/ And I assume this is where the £10 daily charge comes from "Non-compliant vehicles with a 'motorcaravan' body type which are classified as private HGVs will automatically qualify for a permanent discounted charge of £10 per day, rather than £60 per day." Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzerk Posted October 2, 2021 Author Share Posted October 2, 2021 Sadly the final consultation is now under way to add M1 category motorhomes to the the list bringing them in line with n1 classified vehicles. Any motorhome over 3.5 tonnes will pay the discounted rates of £10 next May resident or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 There are also clean air zones at Bath ,Bristol, Birmingham and Portsmouth, some in the planning stages https://beta.bathnes.gov.uk/check-your-vehicle-and-pay-charge https://cleanerairportsmouth.co.uk/ Check your vehicle here to see if there is a charge https://www.gov.uk/clean-air-zones Having checked my 2007 Tribute there would be a charge of £9 per day. The Portsmouth ferry terminal is just outside the zone. Which comes into operation in November. Already hearing of Fines being issued for no payment of Zone charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 ham - 2021-10-03 11:59 AM There are also clean air zones at Bath ,Bristol, Birmingham and Portsmouth, some in the planning stages https://beta.bathnes.gov.uk/check-your-vehicle-and-pay-charge https://cleanerairportsmouth.co.uk/ Check your vehicle here to see if there is a charge https://www.gov.uk/clean-air-zones Having checked my 2007 Tribute there would be a charge of £9 per day. The Portsmouth ferry terminal is just outside the zone. Which comes into operation in November. Already hearing of Fines being issued for no payment of Zone charge It is only the "International Ferry Terminal" that is outside the Zone in Portsmouth. The Whitelink Gunwharf Terminal is inside the zone. So all older diesel vehicles (ie don't meet Euro6) intending to use this route will attract a hefty £50 charge. This will include food delivery lorries and trucks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-58724382 The Gunwharf terminal is only a few yards within the zone (See map in BBC article), but non compliant vehicles will be picked up by numberplate recognition cameras. You would have thought that Portsmouth City Council would have allowed an "Avenue" to the terminal which is regularly used by delivery vehicles. Poor planning, and lack of forethought! Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzerk Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 There are lots of clean air zones popping up around the country all of which are a few miles across the city centre. The point I am making is that Greater Manchester is charge is the whole county some fifty miles across, if all counties take this attitude there will be multiple charges everywhere you try to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach2000 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Well it looks like I will not be loading up the van at home any more from next year because of my dvla classification. Hopefully according to the map of the area covered, you can still drive through GMC if you stay on the motorway. It would have meant a detour otherwise to go from Lancashire to Cheshire to go south. Clive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wilkes Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Will the charge apply if its your only vehicle and its registered as a disabled vehicle. Its a 2007 Citroen relay campervan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 What exactly is a “vehicle registered as disabled” I’m not familiar with the term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wilkes Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 my wife is disabled and instead of getting a mobility car we bought a campervan and registered it as a disabled vehicle and disability pays the road tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 At least in the Greater Manchester clean air zone they have left "avenues" through it. There are none in London. I can't drive inside the M25 in my motorhome. Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceM Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 laimeduck - 2021-10-04 10:38 AM At least in the Greater Manchester clean air zone they have left "avenues" through it. There are none in London. I can't drive inside the M25 in my motorhome. Jeremy I thought that the 710CCX was PLG like mine so had no charge within the London LEZ. Are you uprated to PHGV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 BruceM - 2021-10-04 11:05 AM laimeduck - 2021-10-04 10:38 AM At least in the Greater Manchester clean air zone they have left "avenues" through it. There are none in London. I can't drive inside the M25 in my motorhome. Jeremy I thought that the 710CCX was PLG like mine so had no charge within the London LEZ. Are you uprated to PHGV? Yup .... uprated to 3850Kg , PHGV. We carry a 125 MadAss motorbike100Kg, in the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muswell Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 laimeduck - 2021-10-04 10:38 AM I can't drive inside the M25 in my motorhome. Jeremy Pay the charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartO Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Mark Wilkes - 2021-10-04 9:51 AM my wife is disabled and instead of getting a mobility car we bought a campervan and registered it as a disabled vehicle and disability pays the road tax. It’s not obvious to me that your wife being disabled (and you being allowed to choose an older, polluting vehicle and have your road tax paid for you because of your wife’s disabling problem rather be provided with a modern, non-polluting Motability car) should be a reason for you or your wife to be allowed to pollute Manchester free of charge - and thereby inflict potentially disabling pollution on other people. Surely the idea behind the new charge is to discourage pollution, so it would be illogical to make exceptions simply because the potential perpetrators of pollution (or one of them) is already disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Muswell - 2021-10-04 2:10 PM laimeduck - 2021-10-04 10:38 AM I can't drive inside the M25 in my motorhome. Jeremy Pay the charge? You are joking? Not a chance! £15 congestion charge plus £300 per day LEZ charge! Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muswell Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 And that's how the charges are intended to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Mark Wilkes - 2021-10-04 9:51 AM my wife is disabled and instead of getting a mobility car we bought a campervan and registered it as a disabled vehicle and disability pays the road tax. Looks like it might be, but you can enter your reg number to double check. Some vehicles would be exempt from the daily charge. The government’s Clean Air Zone Framework sets permanent exemptions for historic vehicles, military vehicles, disabled passenger vehicles, and specialist emergency service vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wilkes Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Thanks Colin have you got the name of the website so I can check or do I have to wait until it comes into force in greater Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spospe Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 It is possible to comment on some aspects of the scheme at: https://cleanairgm.com/consultation/ Better have your say than grumble silently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Muswell - 2021-10-04 4:50 PM And that's how the charges are intended to work. Muswell, I have no problem with the London LEZ zone and I agree it is meant to work like that. I have no desire nor need to go inside the M25 in my Motorhome. (And I am a West Wickham Boy!) Indeed, in truth I have no desire to travel on the M25 unless I have to. If I do, I steer clear of the busy hours - ie 05.00 to 22.00 (Tee Hee!!) Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Mark Wilkes - 2021-10-04 5:14 PM Thanks Colin have you got the name of the website so I can check or do I have to wait until it comes into force in greater Manchester. As per this post, if you go to main page there are options to explore the plans. spospe - 2021-10-04 5:22 PM It is possible to comment on some aspects of the scheme at: https://cleanairgm.com/consultation/ Better have your say than grumble silently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocsid Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 laimeduck - 2021-10-03 1:24 PM ham - 2021-10-03 11:59 AM There are also clean air zones at Bath ,Bristol, Birmingham and Portsmouth, some in the planning stages https://beta.bathnes.gov.uk/check-your-vehicle-and-pay-charge https://cleanerairportsmouth.co.uk/ Check your vehicle here to see if there is a charge https://www.gov.uk/clean-air-zones Having checked my 2007 Tribute there would be a charge of £9 per day. The Portsmouth ferry terminal is just outside the zone. Which comes into operation in November. Already hearing of Fines being issued for no payment of Zone charge It is only the "International Ferry Terminal" that is outside the Zone in Portsmouth. The Whitelink Gunwharf Terminal is inside the zone. So all older diesel vehicles (ie don't meet Euro6) intending to use this route will attract a hefty £50 charge. This will include food delivery lorries and trucks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-58724382 The Gunwharf terminal is only a few yards within the zone (See map in BBC article), but non compliant vehicles will be picked up by numberplate recognition cameras. You would have thought that Portsmouth City Council would have allowed an "Avenue" to the terminal which is regularly used by delivery vehicles. Poor planning, and lack of forethought! Jeremy The Portsmouth Clean Air Zone levies are not applying to private cars and vans. https://www.portsmouth.gov.uk/2021/06/17/launch-of-portsmouth-clean-air-zone-vehicle-checker/#:~:text=This%20will%20be%20%C2%A310,drive%20in%20the%20Portsmouth%20CAZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Ocsid - 2021-10-05 7:00 PM laimeduck - 2021-10-03 1:24 PM ham - 2021-10-03 11:59 AM There are also clean air zones at Bath ,Bristol, Birmingham and Portsmouth, some in the planning stages https://beta.bathnes.gov.uk/check-your-vehicle-and-pay-charge https://cleanerairportsmouth.co.uk/ Check your vehicle here to see if there is a charge https://www.gov.uk/clean-air-zones Having checked my 2007 Tribute there would be a charge of £9 per day. The Portsmouth ferry terminal is just outside the zone. Which comes into operation in November. Already hearing of Fines being issued for no payment of Zone charge It is only the "International Ferry Terminal" that is outside the Zone in Portsmouth. The Whitelink Gunwharf Terminal is inside the zone. So all older diesel vehicles (ie don't meet Euro6) intending to use this route will attract a hefty £50 charge. This will include food delivery lorries and trucks. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-58724382 The Gunwharf terminal is only a few yards within the zone (See map in BBC article), but non compliant vehicles will be picked up by numberplate recognition cameras. You would have thought that Portsmouth City Council would have allowed an "Avenue" to the terminal which is regularly used by delivery vehicles. Poor planning, and lack of forethought! Jeremy The Portsmouth Clean Air Zone levies are not applying to private cars and vans. https://www.portsmouth.gov.uk/2021/06/17/launch-of-portsmouth-clean-air-zone-vehicle-checker/#:~:text=This%20will%20be%20%C2%A310,drive%20in%20the%20Portsmouth%20CAZ. "So all older diesel vehicles (ie don't meet Euro6) intending to use this route will attract a hefty £50 charge. This will include food delivery lorries and trucks." Yes that is what I stated. And your point is what? Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocsid Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Quoting ""So all older diesel vehicles (ie don't meet Euro6) intending to use this route will attract a hefty £50 charge. This will include food delivery lorries and trucks." Yes that is what I stated. And your point is what? Jeremy"" A statement of fact, as there might have been some concern here in your statement ie "So all older diesel vehicles (ie don't meet Euro6) intending to use this route will attract a hefty £50 charge. Note, "So all older diesel vehicles", a statement that is not true as older private cars and vans are specifically excluded, and that includes most of the vehicles of our members. What it also does not include, is a "point" that IMO needed clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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