PET PASSPORT

[FRANKP60]

Morning all .

Yes its been disgusted before but confused .As it now looks like we will come out of Europe with a deal what will the situation regarding dogs going abroad .Some people have reported going with just normal passport and visit to vet abroad before coming back ,others complete with blood tests .

Have read what Defra are advising but is it going to be law .Only looking at GERMANY France Spain.

Help please

[Derek Uzzell]

Current official guidance is here

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit#pet-travel-during-an-implementation-period

 

This says

 

Pet travel during an implementation period

If a deal is agreed and an implementation period is confirmed, you can travel with your pet to the EU under the current pet travel rules using your current UK issued EU pet passport.

 

If you’re travelling with your pet for the first time you’ll have to visit your vet to get a pet passport.

 

Although Boris Johnson has regularly emphasised that his ‘excellent' deal is 'oven ready', the oven has still to be turned on and the chef (ie. the EU) has not yet agreed to cook the deal.

 

As you’ve rightly said “...it now looks like we will come out of Europe with a deal...”, but the UK has not done this yet and, until the deal has been agreed and the conditions and duration of the implementation period confirmed, all that travellers with pets can do is monitor official advice.

 

 

[flyboyprowler]

It would be hoped that common sense would prevail, and that the system that has been in use for so many years would be retained. I believe that the original intention was to control the spread, or entry of rabies, and as Europe is basically now rabies free, pet travel should not be too much of a problem. Whether the EU will be sufficiently angry with the UK for leaving, to block that part of the deal, we wait to find out. Our dog has a Spanish passport, and hopefully will not cause problems leaving the UK, but will we be able to get him in again!!

[StuartO]

I think there are two personal scenarios, for which there are different strategies until the transition period and negotiations make the longer term arrangements clear.

 

The issue hangs on whether the EU decides to treat the UK as a "Third Country" in relation to pet travel, for which there will be no scientific argument at all because UK is rabies-free and the EU isn't. The EU may decide to insist on Third Country status just to be awkward. If so, UK pets will need confirmation of rabies immunity as well as the immunisation jab, by means of a blood test. The blood test needs to be done a month or so after a rabies immunisation jab or booster, otherwise it probably will not succeed in confirming immunity. Vets usually charge substantially more for taking a blood sample and getting it tested for rabies antibodies than they do for the rabies immunisations itself, as much as £200.

 

If you already have a Pet Passport I believe there is no need to do anything at least until your pet's next rabies booster is due, when it might make sense to have a blood test as well, to have confirmation of immunity up your sleeve. Since the blood test is more expensive than the booster jab, so there's also an argument for simply having the booster until it's certain that you need the blood test, which so far, certainly during the Transition Period, it isn't.

 

If your pet doesn't yet have a Pet Passport there is perhaps a stronger argument for a confirmatory blood test as well as the rabies immunisation.

 

 

[Billggski]

If we come out of the eu with a deal, then it depends on what the deal is, and what the priorities of the 27 countries involved are. All have to agree.

Dog passports may be low on the list, but the opening gambit from the eu, attractive if the UK wants to get it done quickly, is to leave things as they are. Just leave the eu and move the regulations over en masse.

The problem is of course that means accepting the four eu red lines, free movement of goods, capital, services, and the sticking point, labour.

But, as Boris has been quite happy to abandon red lines in his negotiations so far,

(Replacing the word "backstop" with "sellout" in NI regulations) it is quite possible that very little will change now he is not held hostage by the ERG and can go for a much softer brexit than envisaged before.

So at the moment, we're off to europe with our dogs as usual.

[Guest pelmetman]

Our dog has a Spanish passport ;-) .......and I finally gave into Er in doors nagging and coughed up the 120 euros for a tetre test :-| .......

 

She passed no problem as being Spanish she had a rabies injection every year unlike the UK........

 

So we have crossed every "t" and dotted every frigging "i" possible *-) ........