lindaquinn20 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Hi I need to change bulbs on my Arto 99 reg. Near side dip and off side parking. Advice on how to remove and replace same please. I don’t seem to be straight forward. The model is 59s. Thanks in anticipation. Regards Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Linda I presume you are asking about how to get at the headlamp-units in order to remove/replace the bulbs, rather than just how to remove/replace the bulbs in the units themselves. Accessing the rear of the headlamp-units of A-class motorhomes can be a real challenge, and to replace bulbs it may be necessary to first remove sections of bodywork like the front bumper or part of the wheel-arch. I’ve no idea what the best method would be for your Arto, but (if you are very lucky) another forum-member may have practical knowledge of the procedure required. If not, you might try asking about this on the N+B section of the MHFun website https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/forums/niesmann-bischoff-owners-club.101/ or on the MHFacts forum’s N+B section https://forums.motorhomefacts.com/106-niesmann-bischoff/ There’s also an N+B UK Owners Club that has a free-to-join forum https://sites.google.com/site/nbukownersclub/home (The attached photo is said to be of a 1999 Neismann+Bischoff Arto 59 model.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandncaravan Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Halfords used to advertise free fitting on headlight bulbs bought from their store, don't know if it is still available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRienza Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Halfords charge £8.50 if my memory is accurate, but more importantly they now offer the service on ‘specified’ models. Davy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1951Pete Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Halfords do not fit bulbs to all models. Access has to be fairly easy. They declined to fit headlamp bulbs on our VW car because they could not get the headlamp assembly out easily and there was no space to replace the bulb in situ. The fitter also told us that there are many models they can not deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Details of Halfords bulb and wiper-blade replacement/fitting services are here: https://www.halfords.com/advice/motoring/service/halfords-car-bulb-fitting-service https://www.halfords.com/advice/motoring/service/halfords-wiper-fitting-service Evidently Kwik Fit also offer a similar service https://www.kwik-fit.com/other-products/bulbs https://www.kwik-fit.com/other-products/windscreen-wipers Linda’s Arto’s headlamps are likely to be 120mm-diameter Hella units of the type commonly fitted to many makes of A-class motothome. (There's an example of a dipped-beam unit in the attached photo.) Replacing the bulbs of these headlamp units is quite straightforward, but only if it’s practicable to reach the rear of the unit. I can’t find any on-line complaints about extreme difficulty replacing headlamp bulbs on N+B models, but this doesn’t prove that it’s easy. Due to their positioning it’s likely that bulbs in the outer (dipped-beam) units will be harder to replace than those in the inner main-beam units, but it ought to be fairly obvious whether or not sufficient access to the rear of the units can be obtained from within the motorhome’s engine compartment. Linda has owned this motorhome for at least 8 years and - assuming that it is ‘professionally’ serviced - I would have thought that whoever does that work would be prepared to replace the failed bulbs at minimal cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebishbus Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 From the photo,it looks as though access to the lamps may be similar to my Hymer B584 , Jack up and remove the wheel , remove the screws from the front half of the plastic wheel arch liner, bend it and tie it back. Then you have limited access to the rear of the lamps. Brian B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I'd have thought most garages would be able to change the bulbs but you'll obviously have to pay them for the time it takes. I seem to remember a small renault model used to require most of the front panel removing taking 2+ hrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 This attached photo is said to be of a 2002 Arto 59G. From the ‘shut lines’ on the vehicle’s front it looks like the panel below the windscreen plus the radiator grille both move upwards, that access to the engine compartment might then be reasonably good, and that changing the bulb on the inner headlamp units should be straightforward. Reaching the inset outer headlamp units may well be trickier, but one would need to inspect Linda’s vehicle to decide how difficult bulb-changing really is. (As Linda seems to be planning to DIY the bulb replacement, some feedback from her regarding why she’s having problems doing this might be useful.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I had to replace a DRL bulb on our Exis while away, and found access to the rear of the headlamp unit required more finger joints that my genes had foreseen! However, I also discovered that it was relatively easy to remove the whole headlamp unit, and that the lamp holders were then easily accessible. I just wonder if the same may be true for the Arto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Linda, it took me about four hours to change two light bulbs on my Arto 59s some years ago. You need to follow the manual, you need to have long arms, and you need to have strong fingers. Oh and a son because it was he who was built for the job. He went in from underneath and I guided him from above.. Once you have managed it, I suggest you change the others whilst you can remember how to do it. It is not at all straight forward. My son says patience was required. Sorry I cannot offer much more than sympathy. Derek's suggestions are good because there are Arto owners out there. My only regret with the Arto is getting rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindaquinn20 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Thanks fo the help on this site ,What I did was I split the headlight at the position where the beam is turned right hand drive to left hand drive .There is 3 screws at that position and I removed screws and split the lamp and was able to pull the rear of the lamp out to gain access to the bulb ,removing the rear cover took a bit of effort, it screws off but hadn’t been off in a long time ,but successful in replacing bulb and repeating re assembly. A little awkward but plenty of wd40 helped .Thanks once again for all your help on this site ..Kind regards Mick Quinn Linda’s husband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Good to hear. Hope you didn't scrape off too much skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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