Carryl Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Hi There Just wanted to put out there that our motorhome was stolen from Nailsworh Gloucestershire on Thursday 15th about 9pm, it was a Roller Team T-Line 590 the reg was SF17RDJ but I am sure this will already been changed Please bear this in mind if you are offered a fairly new Roller Team 590, check paperwork thoroughly as it could well be my stolen one Totally devastated by this as it was our second life, it is amazing how much personal stuff you carry around, we made a list the other day and it was astonishing how much kit we had on board, now sadly all gone along with our week-ends away :'( Thanks Carryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 So sorry to hear of your theft. If it's any consolation, when you come to getting a comparison valuation for insurance, I suspect with the high demand a present, it should be favourable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete-B Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 That's awful mate I hope the outcome is good for you and the scumbags boll@"?s drop off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Hi Not too long ago, A police search of a "traveller" site in Yorkshire turned up 3 Stolen Motorhomes and several Caravans and other Vehicles. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Further details of the theft (plus two photos of the motorhome) here https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/18803248.motorhome-stolen-nailsworth/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I had 2 caravans stolen which the police told me had gone to Ireland at about the time of the link below. May not be the case now though ? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246466/Police-smash-Irish-traveller-gang-suspected-half-caravan-thefts-UK.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Derek Uzzell - 2020-10-20 9:27 AM Further details of the theft (plus two photos of the motorhome) here https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/18803248.motorhome-stolen-nailsworth/ "Took them four minutes to immobilise the tracker" Blimey. 8-) That sounds like it was very professional as most get driven off with the Tracker system intact and working as the thieves can't find it. This guy works for a tracking company going after nicked vehicles; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 The Facebook stolen motorhome database mentioned in the Stroud News article is this one https://www.facebook.com/groups/StolenMotorhomeDatabase/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I Note. One was found Burned out?. That is more often the M-O of "Chop Shop" Hackers? Where the vehicle is stolen for Parts?. Happens a Lot with Transits, White van man`s favourite. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 The burned-out motorhome was a 2020-registered Fiat Ducato-based Auto-Trail panel-van conversion seemingly owned by a small hire company. The theft involved the vehicle's keys being stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickt Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 White van favourite here is a Sprinter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 PeteH - 2020-10-21 9:06 AM I Note. One was found Burned out?. That is more often the M-O of "Chop Shop" Hackers? Where the vehicle is stolen for Parts?. Happens a Lot with Transits, White van man`s favourite. Pete Yes you're right there! Regards the op's van that was on a Fiat base but what is more concerning is the thieves were able to disable the Tracker before driving off. No idea what type/make it was but i'd be interested to know what the view of their insurance is on it being disabled in such a short period of time. Whilst nothing is 100% i'd always thought Trackers are as close as you can get.....but not since reading of this experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 https://www.vehicletrackingexperts.co.uk/gps-jammers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteH Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Hi Mine is tracked, Alarmed. Stored behind Alarmed Gates under CCTV cover. But I still fitted a hidden "kill" switch. I know it works, I tried starting it one day and was about to call the RAC, when The penny Dropped "Dohh"" Pete : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deneb Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Bulletguy - 2020-10-21 10:35 AM Yes you're right there! Regards the op's van that was on a Fiat base but what is more concerning is the thieves were able to disable the Tracker before driving off. No idea what type/make it was but i'd be interested to know what the view of their insurance is on it being disabled in such a short period of time. Whilst nothing is 100% i'd always thought Trackers are as close as you can get.....but not since reading of this experience. We recovered several vehicles with GPS jammers left inside by thieves. Insurers are aware of the issues, but undoubtable take the view that something is better than nothing, and they are not always disabled and have on occasions led to arrests and recovery of additional vehicles or remains thereof. As for burnt out vehicles, yes it is one method of disposing of the remains after stripping all desired or resalable items. But the incidence in my experience also increased dramatically in periods where unemployment or other financial stress existed. I've occasionally also dealt with businesses who, for a variety of reasons, found it easier or financially more beneficial to allege the theft and total destruction of vehicles, rather than face the cost of repairs or an inability to make an insurance claim owing to the true circumstances of loss. Not saying for one minute that could be the case here, but a healthy dose of cynicism based on previous experience can be a useful investigative tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Derek Uzzell - 2020-10-21 2:00 PM https://www.vehicletrackingexperts.co.uk/gps-jammers/ Must have used that then. :-( Just hope their insurance coughs up the full whack....ever likely premiums are increasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS20 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Looks like it has to be plugged into the cigar lighter, so will pulling the fuse out make the device useless ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletguy Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Deneb - 2020-10-21 5:01 PM Bulletguy - 2020-10-21 10:35 AM Yes you're right there! Regards the op's van that was on a Fiat base but what is more concerning is the thieves were able to disable the Tracker before driving off. No idea what type/make it was but i'd be interested to know what the view of their insurance is on it being disabled in such a short period of time. Whilst nothing is 100% i'd always thought Trackers are as close as you can get.....but not since reading of this experience. We recovered several vehicles with GPS jammers left inside by thieves. Insurers are aware of the issues, but undoubtable take the view that something is better than nothing, and they are not always disabled and have on occasions led to arrests and recovery of additional vehicles or remains thereof. Yes i've seen a few on police documentaries and YouTube. Always nice when the thing is still giving out it's GPS signal. I remember a few years ago some fancy motor got nicked from London and it was tracked all the way to South Africa. When they contacted the SA police they told them they'd best get a few shipping containers ready as they'd found about 20 more in the same compound, all stolen from UK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carryl Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 Hi There Just to let you know the Tracker wasn't plugged into the cigarette lighter but plugged in to the OBD inside the dash board We think they must have had a scanner to detect the tracker as it only took them a few minutes from arriving to driving away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carryl Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 So do I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deneb Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Carryl - 2020-11-02 4:19 PM Hi There Just to let you know the Tracker wasn't plugged into the cigarette lighter but plugged in to the OBD inside the dash board We think they must have had a scanner to detect the tracker as it only took them a few minutes from arriving to driving away As many keyless thefts these days involve the thief plugging an electronic compromise device into the OBD port, anything already plugged in to it is going to be removed by the thief to allow access for his device, whether it is a tracker or whatever, and it stands to reason that any thief armed with such a tool is going to know exactly where the OBD port is on the vehicle he intends to steal. Any so-called security device that relies on being plugged in to the OBD port is not secure, and the best prevention for any vehicle with an OBD port - which is almost anything manufactured in the last 15-20 years, is an OBD port lock. By-pass devices are able to allow thieves to start the engine within a matter of 10-20 seconds after being plugged in, in many cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will86 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Gone are the wonderful simple days when the rotor arm could be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Will86 - 2020-11-03 10:38 AM Gone are the wonderful simple days when the rotor arm could be removed. Showing your age Will86 - or perhaps you are 86?! I remove a fuse so engine won't work. Not sure yet how much I'll use the 'van this winter, but if was certain of not wanting to for a few months, would remove a wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur49 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Query on OBD port locks. When fitted are these simply left in place until the port is needed for a valid reason ie engine service? It would be a wee bit of hassle to be constantly fitting/removing port lock every time van was stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 arthur49 - 2020-11-03 12:58 PM Query on OBD port locks. When fitted are these simply left in place until the port is needed for a valid reason ie engine service? It would be a wee bit of hassle to be constantly fitting/removing port lock every time van was stopped. They are left in place until you need to access the port for service, etc, as you surmised. Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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