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Truma Combi 4 E UK not working.


derek500

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A couple of weeks ago I descaled my Truma. When I went to turn it on nothing happened. Did the usual checking of fuses etc. and found no problems. After a few goes it suddenly decided to work and I had heating/hot water functioning perfectly.

 

Yesterday, I put it on again, but nothing. Checked fuses etc. Pressed the 'hidden' reset button and multimetered the 12v connection on the boiler and all fine. The water and space lights on the Sargent are both illuminated.

 

I don't have a digital control panel, just the two rotary switches and there are no error lights and I can't see any flashing red lights on the PCB (on the side of the sockets with the Union Jack I believe).

 

Is there a way to test the rotary switches, as one of those may be the problem?

 

Any other suggestions?

 

Thanks

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derek500 - 2021-10-30 1:40 PM

 

...Is there a way to test the rotary switches, as one of those may be the problem?

 

Any other suggestions?

 

Thanks

This ebay advert is for a pair of Combi ‘E’ control dials

 

https://tinyurl.com/ncs7sba9

 

One of the photos shows the rear of both dials (copy attached below) and it will be seen that one dial has a single socket-connection and the other dial has two sockets.

 

If you believe the control dials might be the cause of the problem, you could remove the dials from wherever they are mounted in your motorhome, disconnect the cable-plugs from their sockets and then reconnect them making sure they are firmly in place. As far as I can see, that’s the best you could do. It MIGHT be possible for Truma(UK) to test the dials, either by using specialised equipment or by connecting the dials to a ‘workbench’ Combi E that’s known to be working properly, but neither of those options will be available to a motorhome owner.

 

It sounds like you know about ‘hard resetting’ a Combi (there are YouTube videos about this) but if the appliance is showing absolutely no life at the main PCB or control dials and you’ve confirmed that 12V power is present at the heater, I don’t know what you can do next.

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buddy - 2021-10-31 12:41 PM

 

When you have checked the fuses did this include the ones under the cover on the unit ?

 

On the boiler itself I just checked the small striped fuse under the top cover. The fact it was not working, working and not working again, leads me to believe it's not the fuses.

 

 

 

 

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buddy - 2021-11-01 9:15 AM

 

I believe that the control takes its power from the boiler , it could be worth double checking that connection at the boiler in case it is loose / damaged

 

Thanks for that. Checked all visible connections, they seem OK. I assume the ethernet/telephone type plug that connects on the left hand socket with the Union Jack sticker is the controller?

 

One other thing. There's no water in the boiler, but the manual says it doesn't need it to work in heating only mode. That shouldn't affect it not starting, should it?

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...just a quick check; are you testing on gas or mains?...

 

If mains, there is a second 240V fuse hidden well away which is a known failure point (the unit will, however, continue to function on gas, even if this fuse has blown). The intermittent working doesn't really resonate with that, but it is worth the question.

 

Edited to add: In the case of failure of the 230V fuse, I'd expect some indication at the controls, but these units are sometimes unpredictable.

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The Combi does not need water in the boiler to work , they can be run , for heating only , when empty. The Ethernet type connections that you have checked are the correct ones but it may be worth removing and replacing them , if you have not done already , in case there is a poor connection. It would also be worth trying the same at the control end of things in case the problem is there, the same type of connectors are used , the controls can be removed if you unclip the plastic cover and undo the fixing screws behind it .
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When put into HEATING MODE (that’s blown-air heating mode) a Combi (E) can be run with its water container empty.

 

When put into HOT WATER MODE (ie. when blown-air heating is NOT required) a Combi (E)’s water container should be filled.

 

The latter requirement is stated in the Combi (E) operating instructions in the section shown below.

 

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