spospe Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 In the March MMM on page 102, Mike Jago says that, "it looks likely each visitor will have to pay €7 for a visa waiver" when visiting EU countries (and maybe Norway and Andorra). Does anyone know where to get such a waiver? Just out of interest I asked Safeguard about issuing a Green Card (if needed) and they said, 'no problem, give us a call and we will post one out to you for free' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/etias/ "The legal procedures to pass the ETIAS have started in 2016, and the system is expected to be in place by 2021." I shouldn't panic :D .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 spospe - 2019-02-19 3:58 PM it looks likely each visitor will have to pay €7 for a visa waiver" when visiting EU countries Does anyone know where to get such a waiver? When travelling to US we've had them given to us for free mid Atlantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceM Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 witzend - 2019-02-19 5:42 PM spospe - 2019-02-19 3:58 PM it looks likely each visitor will have to pay €7 for a visa waiver" when visiting EU countries Does anyone know where to get such a waiver? When travelling to US we've had them given to us for free mid Atlantic That’s how it used to be many years ago. Now however, if you’re a UK citizen, you have to apply electronically in advance for a visa waiver via the ‘Electronic System for Travel Authorisation’ (ESTA) and pay $14 per person. If you receive a positive authorisation (and not everyone does) then you can enter the US. Arrive at the airport without one and you’ll not be let on the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 The above is now out of date. See here: http://tinyurl.com/y2zep24w But, the short answer is no ETIAS for UK citizens in Schengen. (This will only be relevant if we Brexit.) As a non EU (i.e. "third country") citizen, you may only stay a maximum of 90 days within a 180 day period. The first day of the 180 day period is set at the first day you enter the Schengen area, when you will need to get your passport stamped with a dated entry stamp. You must also get your passport stamped with a dated exit stamp when you leave Schengen, to prove how many days you have spent in Schengen. This procedure will repeat each time you enter/leave. Failure to get both dated stamps may cause complications, because the duration of your stay will be calculated when you leave. If you cannot prove how long you have been in Schengen you may be penalised for over-staying, with a fine of some €1,000. The time you spent in Schengen is cumulative, so if you make several trips within the 180 day period, each will count against your 90 day total entitlement. You cannot start a new 180 day period until the first has ended. You must leave Schengen at the end of the first 180 day period, but you can then re-enter to start a new 180 day period. You will need to plan the durations of your trips carefully, and you may need to make an early spring trip into Schengen (so that the first 180 day period expires before autumn) if you usually take multiple trips during spring and autumn, to be sure your autumn trip/s can be accommodated within your second 180 day period. I assume that the day you enter, and the day you leave, will both count as days in Schengen. Good, innit! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Brian Kirby - 2019-02-19 7:22 PM The above is now out of date. See here: http://tinyurl.com/y2zep24w But, the short answer is no ETIAS for UK citizens in Schengen. (This will only be relevant if we Brexit.) As a non EU (i.e. "third country") citizen, you may only stay a maximum of 90 days within a 180 day period. The first day of the 180 day period is set at the first day you enter the Schengen area, when you will need to get your passport stamped with a dated entry stamp. You must also get your passport stamped with a dated exit stamp when you leave Schengen, to prove how many days you have spent in Schengen. This procedure will repeat each time you enter/leave. Failure to get both dated stamps may cause complications, because the duration of your stay will be calculated when you leave. If you cannot prove how long you have been in Schengen you may be penalised for over-staying, with a fine of some €1,000. The time you spent in Schengen is cumulative, so if you make several trips within the 180 day period, each will count against your 90 day total entitlement. You cannot start a new 180 day period until the first has ended. You must leave Schengen at the end of the first 180 day period, but you can then re-enter to start a new 180 day period. You will need to plan the durations of your trips carefully, and you may need to make an early spring trip into Schengen (so that the first 180 day period expires before autumn) if you usually take multiple trips during spring and autumn, to be sure your autumn trip/s can be accommodated within your second 180 day period. I assume that the day you enter, and the day you leave, will both count as days in Schengen. Good, innit! :-D So the answer for those who want to spend the winter months in Spain is ......... A day trip in July to France to start your 180 day clock ticking ...........Then you have 89 days to spend in Spain........Day 89 nip over the border to Gib fill up with cheap fuel and get your passport stamped.......Re enter Spain ......and hey presto you have another 90 days B-) ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceM Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 pelmetman - 2019-02-19 8:07 PM So the answer for those who want to spend the winter months in Spain is ......... A day trip in July to France to start your 180 day clock ticking ...........Then you have 89 days to spend in Spain........Day 89 nip over the border to Gib fill up with cheap fuel and get your passport stamped.......Re enter Spain ......and hey presto you have another 90 days B-) ........... Before someone else says that they don’t think that’s quite right (and I didn’t at first) . . . The key to this method is to ensure that the first 180 day period ends to coincide with the 90th day of the allowance (1 day trip and 89 days in the EU). On re-entering the following day it’s a new 180 day period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 BruceM - 2019-02-19 8:52 PM pelmetman - 2019-02-19 8:07 PM So the answer for those who want to spend the winter months in Spain is ......... A day trip in July to France to start your 180 day clock ticking ...........Then you have 89 days to spend in Spain........Day 89 nip over the border to Gib fill up with cheap fuel and get your passport stamped.......Re enter Spain ......and hey presto you have another 90 days B-) ........... Before someone else says that they don’t think that’s quite right (and I didn’t at first) . . . The key to this method is to ensure that the first 180 day period ends to coincide with the 90th day of the allowance (1 day trip and 89 days in the EU). On re-entering the following day it’s a new 180 day period. https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/consequences-of-overstaying-in-schengen-area/ "Remember that the first day you enter in the Schengen territory is counted as day 1 even if it is just before midnight, while the date you leave is counted as the last day even if you left before sunrise." So you need to cross into Gib just before midnight .........and return just after :D ......... I wonder if the cheap fuel station is 24hr? :-S ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.