paulw60 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Hi we have an autocruise rythmn 2011 on a peugeot boxer chassis. Is it correct that timing is chain not belt driven, also at what interval is the aux/ fan belt should be changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Your Rhythm’s motor will have a timing-chain. I can’t help with the Peugeot-advised inteval for the acccessory belt(s). if there’s no advice about this in your Peugeot handbook, I suggest you ask a Peugeot dealership. (For a 2011 Boxer, if yours has not had its acccessory belt(s) replaced at least once during the last 9 years, the belt(s) should definitely be replaced as soon as practicable.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith T Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I had a Burstner based on the FIAT Boxer 2012 and they would not do the MOT at 4 years/8 years unless the belt had been changed. They were too afraid of pushing the engine too hard and so would not take responsibility for this! I think the present FIAT has similar limitations, though I believe the current MOT requirements are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry38 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 My Autocruise Rythm (2009) has the same engine and is a Ford / Peugeot development partnership I believe. A number of parts carry the Ford logo and one of these is the auxilliary belt drive and pulleys. At 35000 miles the engine developed a "whining" noise from this area and I fitted Ford parts inc. belt tensioner and belt which was a simple job. On removal the belt, pulleys and bearings showed no signs of wear but I replaced them (perhaps unnecessarily) anyway, although the problem still existed. Whilst doing the repair I noticed a tiny oil leak from the front crank seal area and my local Peugeot dealer advised replacement. Removing the front pulley for access it was reported to be "de-laminating" (it is constructed in two parts with a rubber bonding between) half of which had progressed backwards towards the engine and in doing so caused a series of tiny pinholes in the timing chain case (hence the whining noise), ultimately causing the oil leak. By fitting a new chain case, front pulley and seals the oil leak and "whining " noise disappeared together with £1250 from my wallet! My advice is, be vigilant, don't ignore any oil leaks (now an MOT failure), or untoward noises from under the bonnet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Keith T - 2020-01-12 5:08 PM I had a Burstner based on the FIAT Boxer 2012 and they would not do the MOT at 4 years/8 years unless the belt had been changed. They were too afraid of pushing the engine too hard and so would not take responsibility for this! I think the present FIAT has similar limitations, though I believe the current MOT requirements are different. That's a strange one, Keith, because like many current diesel engines including both our cars the 2.2l PUMA is limited by its ECU in neutral at 0mph -you cannot hold what it considers excessive revs and it will cut them back. The days of MOT testers revving diesels to destruction are long gone and this is reflected in the current MOT manual's reference to the emissions testing of compression ignition engines: "Maximum engine revs cannot be achieved on some vehicles due to design features. If this is the case, the vehicle must be tested as presented". Edit: your reference to a Fiat Boxer has confused me - I may be talking about a different engine.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve928 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 paulw60 - 2020-01-12 10:51 AM also at what interval is the aux/ fan belt should be changed? I asked my Peugeot dealer to check this recently and was told 96,000 miles or 10 years, which is the same as on the current BlueHDi engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw60 Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 thanks for that, I am only on 40thou so will give it another 20 before changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith T Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 sorry my error, it was a 2007 version!! Not sure what Euro rating that was but [rpbably 5... I think that may have changed on the EU6 but I understand the actual MOT system no longer required maximum revs to the emissions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Whatever your Burstner's age, it would probably have been built on a Fiat DUCATO base. Peugeot makes the Boxer and Citroen makes the Relay (called Jumper outside the UK). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varonda Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Deffo the Autocruise Rhythm is chain cam -- the 2.2ltr unit is Ford -- 18 months ago I got a box of canaries under the bonnet ! investigation revealed the bottom pulley starting to break up and eating into the chain case cover --I had the job done locally and for new pulley new belts new chain case cover+new seal and oil change just under £500 all in -- apparently it's a common issue with the pulley even more so with air con fitted -- ask your mechanic to inspect on servicing as you might get away with just a replacement pulley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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