Personnel Hygiene
userDavid Coxhead
Posted: 8 March 2006 5:20 PM
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Personnel Hygiene

Hello, I am a BA Product Design Student at Nottingham Trent University and currently working on a project in regards to personnel hygiene. I was wondering how people keep their body and in particular hands, clean when camping. Is keeping the body clean a problem when water is scarce? Are products that assist in cleaning the body effective? Any feedback will be great. Thank you for your time.
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Posted: 9 March 2006 9:22 AM
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"I was wondering how people keep their body and in particular hands, clean when camping."

WE WASH! WITH SOAP AND WATER!
userPete
Posted: 9 March 2006 3:00 PM
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Hi David,

Depends if you're referring to Camping on an established commercial campsite or wild/basic camping.

On commercial campsites they usually provide showers (for a nominal fee) and/or wash basins.

For wild/basic camping then if there isn't access to some sort of standpipe/trough (yes, some farmers do provide a trough of water for you all to share!!!) then I'd use a local stream to wash myself using water only (no soaps or detergents etc) and/or a wash/cleansing wipe.
I can't remember what the latter are called as it's a while since I've been wild camping but you can buy them at large supermarkets and good outdoor centres.

Hope this of some help

Cheers

Pete.
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Posted: 15 March 2006 7:50 PM
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Hi David, for wilderness camping, especially in the summer when near water, soaps and shampoos attract all manner of insects, especially mosquitos, the skin when left unwashed builds up natural oils which act as a deterrant to these unwelcome bugs, this tip was passed onto me when camping in b,c canada by a native indian, i put it to the test and it seems to work,
good luck with the research
rich
userbertieburstner
Posted: 15 March 2006 10:17 PM
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If you're at university studying the subject I suggest the first thing to to is spell personal properly!
userSteve Johnson
Posted: 16 March 2006 2:59 PM
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Bertieburstner,

Comments such as the one you left above are not helpful...especially as your grammar is not up to scratch either. I quote "...I suggest the first thing TO TO is spell personal PROPERLY!" CORRECTLY would have been the better choice, don’t you think??

David,

I regularly use dry wash when camping and hiking as a temporary solution.

Cheers,

Steve
userMOTORHOMER
Posted: 20 March 2006 10:38 AM
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Hello


What is "dry wash " please.

Or do you mean you dont wash. Sorry


Motorhomer
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Posted: 20 March 2006 3:08 PM
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Perhaps David Coxhead meant Personnel... There's nothing worse than smelly colleagues!
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Posted: 28 March 2006 8:15 PM
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richard harvey - 2006-03-15 7:50 PM

Hi David, for wilderness camping, especially in the summer when near water, soaps and shampoos attract all manner of insects, especially mosquitos, the skin when left unwashed builds up natural oils which act as a deterrant to these unwelcome bugs, this tip was passed onto me when camping in b,c canada by a native indian, i put it to the test and it seems to work,
good luck with the research
rich


Some years back I was given the same advice by a Lakeland farmer, when I was troubled by the local "Cliks"
Our Indian doctor says to eat Garlic

For david (is it who started this) My advice would be to go out and do some field work (excuse the pun)
Join in a D of E group, Go to Afghanistan and help with the homeless he will see how people keep clean in the most difficult conditions
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Posted: 28 March 2006 8:19 PM
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Hi Motorhomer

What I think he means is he uses them baby wipe thingies

tha nows they comes in a box an tha pulls em awt one bi one an wipes em across thi face
userBGD
Posted: 21 July 2007 3:11 PM
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Ye Gods!

David: you're a degree student, a product of 12 or more years' full time education; you a undertaking this B.A. study research; and yet you don't seem to even know the difference between "personnel" and "personal"?

Methinks you have a long way to go with your research.

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Posted: 21 July 2007 8:22 PM
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I think you're being a bit unfair. I used to work in a personnel department and believe me some of them do whiff a bit

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Posted: 21 July 2007 9:34 PM
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BGD - 2007-07-21 3:11 PM

Ye Gods!

David: you're a degree student, a product of 12 or more years' full time education; you a undertaking this B.A. study research; and yet you don't seem to even know the difference between "personnel" and "personal"?

Methinks you have a long way to go with your research.

shame its over a year old and he gone with the wind

Edited by michele 2007-07-21 9:34 PM
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Posted: 22 July 2007 10:42 AM
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theres nothing to beat stnading under a freezing cold waterfall coming down off the mountains,,,,in summer of course
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Posted: 25 July 2007 10:22 AM
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Here we have a serious question from a serious guy, surely you can do better than tring to show how "superior" you are by trying to belittle the guy over trivial matters such as spelling and grammar.

Can you be sure that these errors are not the result of hitting the incorrect ket when typing , hands up the people who have never made any mistakes in this department themselves.

Try being nice and just answer the guys question
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Posted: 19 November 2007 10:23 AM
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I googled it and theres a web page devoted to cleaning your hands... http://www.cdc.gov/cleanhands/

We have a motorhome so have water onboard, but in case of running out... - I keep a bottle of wash which you can use to clean your hands without water that doesn't require rinsing off.
Ours is a Spanish one as we live here... but heres one from Betterware...
http://www.betterware.co.uk/productdetails.aspx?pid=036387&cid=174&language=en-GB

I also keep a pack of Baby wipes in the cupboard, not the pull up type as they do tend to dry out and are also a good deal thinner than the tissue box variety. Useful for the dog as well!

Eeks.. just spotted how old this thread was.... oh well, better late than never! I'll not change!

Edited by Sparkle 2007-11-19 10:25 AM
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Posted: 19 November 2007 11:09 AM
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interesting though,
wonder if he ever came back


wonder if he's taken advantage of the passage of time to learn the difference between personal and personnel
or perhaps that's complimentary to his studies [nudge nudge wink wink]
[ geddit ]
[sorry - just had my first caffeine intake - sad innit ]

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Posted: 20 November 2007 3:37 PM
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Syd - 2007-07-25 10:22 AM

Here we have a serious question from a serious guy, surely you can do better than tring to show how "superior" you are by trying to belittle the guy over trivial matters such as spelling and grammar.

Can you be sure that these errors are not the result of hitting the incorrect ket when typing , hands up the people who have never made any mistakes in this department themselves.

Try being nice and just answer the guys question




Syd - with respect, the guy is attempting to pass a university academic degree.

He's going to have to learn, quickly, that at that level of higher education, casual and slapdash simply doesn't cut it.

Of course people make keying errors; the thing to appreciate is that you can then go back and check what you have typed in order to use your best efforts to correct it, before publishing it for the world to read.

I would have hoped (expected) that someone pursuing an academically stringent and intellectually demanding course of study would have demonstrated their competence in this discipline.

Are my comments harsh? Yes, I believe so. But realistic.

Are my comments necessary? Also yes, I believe so; if he is going to have any hope of success at degree level, and subsequently in any type of professional career.






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Posted: 22 January 2008 7:14 PM
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Syd - 2007-07-25 10:22 AM

Here we have a serious question from a serious guy, surely you can do better than tring to show how "superior" you are by trying to belittle the guy over trivial matters such as spelling and grammar.

Can you be sure that these errors are not the result of hitting the incorrect ket when typing , hands up the people who have never made any mistakes in this department themselves.

Try being nice and just answer the guys question
Quite right Sid, but I do have my doubts re. the name " David Coxhead". Not another wind up surely.
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Posted: 4 April 2008 3:27 PM
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Comments on spelling and grammar really p**s me off. We can't all be brains of Britain - even college or university students etc - and if we have to worry about pedantic readers, it is going to put a lot of us, including me/myself/I , from posting....

The young man may have put the wrong form of personal/personnel but there are probably things he can do a hundred times better than some of us who do know the difference. We all have our fortes and shouldn't jump on others from a great height..... they may still live to have their day of getting their own back.

My response to the original question as well as baby wipes, disinfectant soap, etc., is that you learn with every journey how to save water. Water left over from heating the kettle for a cuppa becomes the washing up water, or the face wash water late at night, or cleaning teeth water. Every journey is still a learning curve for me on reserving electricity, water, energy etc.... and if the worse comes to worse a bit of stale sweat never hurt anybody..
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Posted: 8 August 2008 12:26 PM
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When in India I carried a small piece of soap in a tin. A lot of stomach upsets can be attributed to poor PERSONAL hygene.
Now with the paranoia about MRSA and CDiff,there are a plethora of cleansing products available. Alcohol based items that come in handy bottles are very useful. The Bettaware product is just one example,now it is easy to find similar items at pharmacists and supermarkets.
Baby/wet wipes are a less convenient method,but are useful in the vahicle.
Good luck with your course David,which i hope by now you have passed and are studying for a Phd maybe you have chosen 'Pedants and their raison d'etre'
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Posted: 8 August 2008 4:15 PM
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Spot on, Yeti - hygiene is vital when camping (a good BP lesson). If you do not keep things clean then you are also likely to pass bugs on to all camping with you.
I often pack Lifeventure All Purpose Soap - an "environmentally-friendly" liquid soap that is great for clothes as well as body. It even works in salty water. The big advantage is that, unlike soap, unwelcome grot does not stick to the plastic bottle when I drop it. Anyone out there who has used anything similar?
Have just used Sage Rinse-free Body Washcloths (eight in a £2.99 pack) and Sage Foot & Groin Skin Protecting Washcloth (three in a pack - same price as above). Hmm, the image conjured up by the name is not a pleasant one - especially as they were designed for military use. But they are quite pleasant to use, leaving you cool and clean without having to use water. Great for use after outdoor pursuits when washing facilities are lacking.
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Posted: 9 August 2008 3:13 PM
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funny how these old threads reappear - particularly on cold and wet afternoons

keeps the trolls off the streets I suppose

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Posted: 24 March 2009 3:21 PM
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As an Environmental health Officer who spends most of the week drumming the importance of good personal hygiene to food businesses I still find it hard to switch off at weekends. Unfortunately, my idea of camping is not quite slumming it as I don't think I could cope on a site with no showers!
We always have a pack of wet wipes for hands etc and deodorant wipes for grotty bodies. I also bought some biodegradable washing up liquid for the pots and an all important biodegradable antibacterial spray for tables, surfaces and our Khampa Khazi.
Even if I was wild camping I'd still have half an eye on hygiene. Can you imagine the stick I'd get for work if I ended up with food poisoning?

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Posted: 25 March 2009 4:47 PM
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Hi,

I did once wash a pair of socks in an empty pineapple tin, using shampoo and water that tasted of frogs

The folowing day we found a stream, stripped off and climbed in to bathe, had to chase the little fish away. I like to think the water in the stream was about the same temperature as a hot bath in UK....but we found it to be cool. Finding the stream was bit of a surprise, as we were at Burami (sp?), about a hundred miles inland from Dubai. All corrections wil be welcomed.

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Guess I still don't know whether you meant personal or personnel and you're probably done and dusted with the whole thing by now!You may have even paid off the student loan?

Like quite a few, i am a big fan of the baby wipes as mum of three and they are brilliant for a million different messes! also like the anti bac hand gel you can now get in most places. The kids love this and then they don't get the towel all grotty either. Best of all for me in the middle of the night are those throw away travelloos you can get online. Sounds a bit icky, but basically you wee into a special bag and it goes hard and you pop it in the bin! Have to admit, use these for the kids when I can't be bothered to take them to the toilet block in the rain either. All these three things are tiny too, so don't take up any room and I can keep them all in my backpack! hope this helps!
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Posted: 30 August 2009 7:10 PM
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Babywipes if there isn`t any water. They do a great job on your pits, privates and plates of meat! If it`s there but scarce, a bowl & a flannel.

Edited by SAS 2009-08-30 7:11 PM
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Posted: 30 August 2009 7:56 PM
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3 1/2 years and this thread's still getting posts.

What a sad lot we are...
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Posted: 31 August 2009 10:24 AM
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wondering if your getting mixed up with normal people that go camping with pikey/new age traveller types
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Posted: 3 September 2009 6:27 PM
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All personnel are required to report to the Human Resources department for a weekly salt scrub.


However when it comes to personal hygiene. . .then I'm much kinder to myself and use water.

Wet wipes/disposable make up remover wipes/baby wipes are useful but contribute to landfill problems.
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Posted: 4 September 2009 4:28 PM
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( following ) FAIL 6/10.
The folowing day we found a stream, stripped off and climbed in to bathe, had to chase the little fish away. I like to think the water in the stream was about the same temperature as a hot bath in UK....but we found it to be cool. Finding the stream was bit of a surprise,

as we were at Burami (sp?), about a hundred miles inland from Dubai.


All corrections wil be welcomed.
(will)
Just joking, Loved the last line, if you ask me there are to many pendents? hanging about on these forums, and yes Roon, they p**s me off too.

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Posted: 4 September 2009 8:51 PM
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pkc - 2009-09-04 4:28 PM W3526602 Posted: 25 March 2009 4:47 PM Subject: RE: Personnel Hygiene ( following ) FAIL 6/10. The folowing day we found a stream, stripped off and climbed in to bathe, had to chase the little fish away. I like to think the water in the stream was about the same temperature as a hot bath in UK....but we found it to be cool. Finding the stream was bit of a surprise, as we were at Burami (sp?), about a hundred miles inland from Dubai. All corrections wil be welcomed. (will) Just joking, Loved the last line, if you ask me there are to many pendents? hanging about on these forums, and yes Roon, they p**s me off too.

One good thing about being a bit of a pedant is that you know the difference between something you hang around your neck (a pendant) and some one who thinks that good English is important (a pedant).

Personally, the ones on this site who p**s me off are the ones who appear to have left school at the age of eleven and are now allowed to drive 3 and a half ton motorhomes!

Oh, and then there's the idiot who started this thread and claims to be doing university research but doesn't know the difference between personal and personnel!



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Posted: 4 September 2009 10:33 PM
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'pendents?', 'hanging about'. notice the thing called the question mark?
only a humourless pedant would have missed that.
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pkc - 2009-09-04 10:33 PM 'pendents?', 'hanging about'. notice the thing called the question mark? only a humourless pedant would have missed that.

Oh I see, you actually meant to say 'pendant' but you couldn't actually spell it. Anyway, congratulations on the stab at humour. You'll be starting your sentences with a capital letter next.

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Posted: 5 September 2009 10:43 AM
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Good morning Rupert123,

On Orthography.

Pendent, pendant
a.,n. dangling; suspended; jutting; overhanging.


pen•dent 1 also pen•dant (p n d nt)
adj.
1. Hanging down; dangling; suspended.
2. Projecting; overhanging.
3. Awaiting settlement; pending.

pendent - definition of pendent by the Free Online Dictionary
pen•dent 1 also pen•dant (p n d nt). adj. 1. Hanging down; dangling; suspended.

No I did mean to use the word pendent.
The correct spelling? Well it appears that you say Tomato, and I say Tomata.
Capitals? ‘ not sure but if I’m using a quote I don’t think I should alter the original’,
But I’m sure you will correct me if I’m wrong.

Thanks you for your appreciation of my stab at humour,
Congratulations on your stab at good manners.

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pkc - 2009-09-05 10:43 AM Good morning Rupert123, On Orthography. Pendent, pendant a.,n. dangling; suspended; jutting; overhanging. pen•dent 1 also pen•dant (p n d nt) adj. 1. Hanging down; dangling; suspended. 2. Projecting; overhanging. 3. Awaiting settlement; pending. pendent - definition of pendent by the Free Online Dictionary pen•dent 1 also pen•dant (p n d nt). adj. 1. Hanging down; dangling; suspended. No I did mean to use the word pendent. The correct spelling? Well it appears that you say Tomato, and I say Tomata. Capitals? ‘ not sure but if I’m using a quote I don’t think I should alter the original’, But I’m sure you will correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks you for your appreciation of my stab at humour, Congratulations on your stab at good manners.

Wrong on two counts I'm afraid.

First of all I'm not Rupert 123, he will be pleased!

Two - pendent is quite clearly an adjective, your own examples prove this but check the OED if you're not sure. You were quite clearly referring to a noun when you said that there are two many pendents on this site. I cannot find any example of pendent as a noun and I'm afraid that I don't really believe your claim that it was a pun on pendants and I'm convinced that the question mark signified that you were unsure of the spelling- good try though.

As for good manners, I would remind you that you started this by having a sly dig at those you consider to be pedants when you said: Just joking, Loved the last line, if you ask me there are to many pendents? hanging about on these forums, and yes Roon, they p**s me off too.

People who live in glass houses............?



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