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Seeing as we hope to be in Spain for our Brexit celebrations ........

I'm taking seriously the governments warnings what might happen if we leave with a No Deal .........

So should I spend the £5.50 on a international driving permit before we leave......or wait until we come home at Christmas for a week? ...........

£5.50 now or post office queues at Christmas?.........damn its a conundrum ..........

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Oh Lordy ... Village idiot Barry is guna be picking the bones out of the Governments info on a no-deal Brexit today and translating into an asteroid type end of the world scenario for little old poor defenceless UK ... Expect yet another wrist slashing Brexit love song from Barry tonight
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Maybe I should get with the Snowflake generation...... and set up a go fund me page for my International license? ............

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Posted: 13 September 2018 7:12 PM
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Go for it ... Surely a racial edge somewhere ... Maybe even a gender identity issue ... You set it up and I know for sure ive got 47 pence in the van or you want it in Euros
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Stay calm and don't panic.


Once I get back to Spain then I only ever panic manana .........

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pelmetman - 2018-09-13 6:20 PM

I'm taking seriously the governments warnings what might happen if we leave with a No Deal

The mask of confidence slipping already i see.

So should I spend the £5.50 on a international driving permit before we leave......or wait until we come home at Christmas for a week? ...........

No.....with a bit of luck you'll get arrested in Spain as an illegal and spend Christmas in prison....preferably over there....permanently.
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Posted: 13 September 2018 9:23 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-09-13 6:20 PM

I'm taking seriously the governments warnings what might happen if we leave with a No Deal

The mask of confidence slipping already i see.

So should I spend the £5.50 on a international driving permit before we leave......or wait until we come home at Christmas for a week? ...........

No.....with a bit of luck you'll get arrested in Spain as an illegal and spend Christmas in prison....preferably over there....permanently.


In your wet dreams Bonehead .........

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pelmetman - 2018-09-13 9:23 PM

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pelmetman - 2018-09-13 6:20 PM

I'm taking seriously the governments warnings what might happen if we leave with a No Deal

The mask of confidence slipping already i see.

So should I spend the £5.50 on a international driving permit before we leave......or wait until we come home at Christmas for a week? ...........

No.....with a bit of luck you'll get arrested in Spain as an illegal and spend Christmas in prison....preferably over there....permanently.


In your wet dreams Bonehead .........

Didn't seem very confident to me PelmetPillock. Good to see you beginning to get jittery though....eventually you might even wake up.

pelmetman - 2018-09-13 6:20 PM

I'm taking seriously the governments warnings what might happen if we leave with a No Deal

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Posted: 14 September 2018 5:58 AM
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You should have stuck your money in the EU like Rees-Mogg.
He's made a packet already and stands to make a lot more if we crash out of the EU with no-deal.
Wheras for those who are dependent on the UK... http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/no-deal-brexit-would-bring-recession-unemployment-and-higher-prices-moodys-11364295111582
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No doubt there will be EU citizens in UK after BREXIt, without an IDP.

Maybe best if we agree that you won't ask to see mine, if I don't ask to see yours.

It's nice to think that Plod will have time to inspect IDPs ... what with all the riots ...

Question ... I am only allowed to hold one EU driving licence, but I currently have entitlement to drive in 28 states. After BREXIT, can I apply for another 27 licences .....

Question ... can somebody who passed their test in UK, but exchanged their UK licence for a French licence, keep the French licence ... and request the return of their UK licence (DVLA should still have their details on file).

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Posted: 14 September 2018 8:32 AM
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Hes at it again ... He had to apologise last time he got it massively wrong ... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/13/no-deal-brexit-could-be-as-bad-as-2008-financial-crash-carney-says
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Posted: 14 September 2018 9:56 AM
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John52 - 2018-09-14 5:58 AM

You should have stuck your money in the EU like Rees-Mogg.
He's made a packet already and stands to make a lot more if we crash out of the EU with no-deal.
Wheras for those who are dependent on the UK... http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/no-deal-brexit-would-bring-recession-unemployment-and-higher-prices-moodys-11364295111582


I think I'll take Moody's predictions with a large pinch of salt ..........

Seeing as they have a history of telling porkies for their paymasters ............

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jan/14/moodys-864m-penalty-for-ratings-in-run-up-to-2008-financial-crisis
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Been there and done that,when you apply for your UK licence you have to send in your French licence to the DVLA with your application.
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antony1969 - 2018-09-13 6:40 PM

Oh Lordy ... Village idiot Barry is guna be picking the bones out of the Governments info on a no-deal Brexit today and translating into an asteroid type end of the world scenario for little old poor defenceless UK ... Expect yet another wrist slashing Brexit love song from Barry tonight


No need to wait. Quite upbeat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt8ML82thjE
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Posted: 14 September 2018 11:20 AM
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Whatever happens in the real world is certain to be made to look worse by biased sensationalist reporting intent on making it look bad even when it isn't - now doen't that have a familiar ring to it?
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Posted: 14 September 2018 11:55 AM
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antony1969 - 2018-09-13 6:40 PM

Oh Lordy ... Village idiot Barry is guna be picking the bones out of the Governments info on a no-deal Brexit today and translating into an asteroid type end of the world scenario for little old poor defenceless UK ... Expect yet another wrist slashing Brexit love song from Barry tonight


No need to wait. Quite upbeat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt8ML82thjE


Oh Lordy ... Thats a bit racist ... Lordy My
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Posted: 14 September 2018 12:26 PM
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antony1969 - 2018-09-13 6:40 PM

Oh Lordy ... Village idiot Barry is guna be picking the bones out of the Governments info on a no-deal Brexit today and translating into an asteroid type end of the world scenario for little old poor defenceless UK ... Expect yet another wrist slashing Brexit love song from Barry tonight


No need to wait. Quite upbeat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt8ML82thjE


Oh Lordy ... Thats a bit racist ... Lordy My


Im gonna write a new one all about a bloke called Dave who is a shady illegal immigrant who hangs around in Spain dodging the Rozzers and spending all day drinking cheap plonk and making sand castles.

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Posted: 14 September 2018 12:49 PM
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antony1969 - 2018-09-13 6:40 PM

Oh Lordy ... Village idiot Barry is guna be picking the bones out of the Governments info on a no-deal Brexit today and translating into an asteroid type end of the world scenario for little old poor defenceless UK ... Expect yet another wrist slashing Brexit love song from Barry tonight


No need to wait. Quite upbeat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt8ML82thjE


Oh Lordy ... Thats a bit racist ... Lordy My


Im gonna write a new one all about a bloke called Dave who is a shady illegal immigrant who hangs around in Spain dodging the Rozzers and spending all day drinking cheap plonk and making sand castles.



The fuzz'll never get into his Stalag Luft compound ... Its got triple strength wind breaker security fencing around its perimeter and Daves white hanky on his head disguise fools them foreign darkies every time
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antony1969 - 2018-09-13 6:40 PM

Oh Lordy ... Village idiot Barry is guna be picking the bones out of the Governments info on a no-deal Brexit today and translating into an asteroid type end of the world scenario for little old poor defenceless UK ... Expect yet another wrist slashing Brexit love song from Barry tonight


No need to wait. Quite upbeat! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt8ML82thjE


Oh Lordy ... Thats a bit racist ... Lordy My


Im gonna write a new one all about a bloke called Dave who is a shady illegal immigrant who hangs around in Spain dodging the Rozzers and spending all day drinking cheap plonk and making sand castles.



The fuzz'll never get into his Stalag Luft compound ... Its got triple strength wind breaker security fencing around its perimeter and Daves white hanky on his head disguise fools them foreign darkies every time


They will get him on the beach though. He cant resist a sand castle and Ive sent Interpol his picture.





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Posted: 14 September 2018 2:03 PM
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I love the moustache, reminds me of someone but can't think who, and perhaps Dave can explain what he is doing with his hands?

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Posted: 14 September 2018 2:45 PM
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Lordy Dave always was a sucker for sand castles ... Rich is right whats he doing with his hands , looks kinda racist to me
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antony1969 - 2018-09-14 2:45 PM

Lordy Dave always was a sucker for sand castles ... Rich is right whats he doing with his hands , looks kinda racist to me


Its the not so secret Brexiteer hand signal they use to each other. He has got the hand shape right but your supposed to do it with one hand raised and waving backwards and forwards.

Like this. https://tinyurl.com/ydzbchpb
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Posted: 14 September 2018 5:34 PM
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antony1969 - 2018-09-14 2:45 PM

Lordy Dave always was a sucker for sand castles ... Rich is right whats he doing with his hands , looks kinda racist to me


Its the not so secret Brexiteer hand signal they use to each other. He has got the hand shape right but your supposed to do it with one hand raised and waving backwards and forwards.

Like this. https://tinyurl.com/ydzbchpb


Lordy ... Looks just like Bullet
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Perhaps he is checking the cockles he found in the sand are the right size to put in his cockle sack - as determined by the pre Brexit EU minions?

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Tracker - 2018-09-14 5:45 PM

Perhaps he is checking the cockles he found in the sand are the right size to put in his cockle sack - as determined by the pre Brexit EU minions?


I think your right Rich ... Daves winkle is defo EU regulation size according to Barry ... 50mm when fully cooked apparently ... Lordy
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That was a serious posting about cockle size, trust you to lower the tone with inuendo Antony, but at least it was not racist
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Posted: 14 September 2018 6:08 PM
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Tracker - 2018-09-14 5:58 PM

That was a serious posting about cockle size, trust you to lower the tone with inuendo Antony, but at least it was not racist


It prolly was a bit racist in the eyes of the permanently offended on here ... Im sure Daves cockle size is the required EU size whereas Barrys maggot which supposedly is used to tempt fruits of the sea is prolly way under size ... Oh dear
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<<< Been there and done that,when you apply for your UK licence you have to send in your French licence to the DVLA with your application. >>>

Hi,

That is the current siuation. You are only allowed to hold one EU licence. But two questions .... What happens if you exchange your UK licence for a USA licence, then return to the UK? Do you have to exchange your US licence for a UK licence? Or can you use your UK entitlement to apply for a UK licence?

What happens if you visit USA, and pass your test, without mentioning that you have a UK licence.

Many years ago, Stirling Moss was disqualified for changing lanes in one of the Thames tunnels. He needed a driving licence in order to be allowed to race. Not a problem ... he also held a USA licence (which would NOT have allowed him to drive on the road while disqualified)..

I have written to my MP about this, asking for a definitive answer from DVLA..

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<<< Been there and done that,when you apply for your UK licence you have to send in your French licence to the DVLA with your application. >>>

Hi,

That is the current siuation. You are only allowed to hold one EU licence. But two questions .... What happens if you exchange your UK licence for a USA licence, then return to the UK? Do you have to exchange your US licence for a UK licence? Or can you use your UK entitlement to apply for a UK licence?

What happens if you visit USA, and pass your test, without mentioning that you have a UK licence.

Many years ago, Stirling Moss was disqualified for changing lanes in one of the Thames tunnels. He needed a driving licence in order to be allowed to race. Not a problem ... he also held a USA licence (which would NOT have allowed him to drive on the road while disqualified)..

I have written to my MP about this, asking for a definitive answer from DVLA..

You have to show you've been resident with a permanent address in UK for at least 185 days before you can exchange it but can drive up to 12 months on your foreign licence, after that you must apply for full UK one.

All explained here; https://www.gov.uk/exchange-foreign-driving-licence
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Posted: 14 September 2018 7:31 PM
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Well Lordy would you Brexit believe it ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45517279 ... The sweet smell of Brexit
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Some things, it seems, are worth crossing the Chanel for?
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Some things, it seems, are worth crossing the Chanel for?


Oui
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antony1969 - 2018-09-14 7:31 PM

Well Lordy would you Brexit believe it ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45517279 ... The sweet smell of Brexit


No surprises there Corbyn is for the many, not the few, and the Tories the other way round.
QUOTE: moves Chanel closer to one of its fastest growing customer bases with "spending on luxury goods by affluent London households being only second to Hong Kong, in terms of growth".

As the gap between rich and poor in London reaches new extremes it makes sense for them to sell the most expensive products in Knightsbridge. But what about the other 99% of the people?
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antony1969 - 2018-09-14 7:31 PM

Well Lordy would you Brexit believe it ... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45517279 ... The sweet smell of Brexit


"And will create Dozens of jobs!" Blimey! We are saved.

Wealthy luxury company moves here for tax purposes creating posh office jobs in almost double figures (in London).

Not really going to help tens of thousands of workers in car plants like Jaguar Land Rover and the rest of our car industry when its either moved to the EU or gone bust.

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John52 - 2018-09-14 8:42 PM

But what about the other 99% of the people?



Many of them, granted some are too thick to even be allowed to breed, but many could learn from the 1% to get off their backsides and make the effort to better themselves and then they too could help Chanel employ two more less lazy Londoners.
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John52 - 2018-09-14 8:42 PM

But what about the other 99% of the people?



Many of them, granted some are too thick to even be allowed to breed, but many could learn from the 1% to get off their backsides and make the effort to better themselves and then they too could help Chanel employ two more less lazy Londoners.

Many do go to work Richard but even with London weighting, you need to be earning well in excess of the national average....and then comes the issue of finding an affordable place to live. Rents are exorbitant and property purchase a fantasy dream. Living in London doesn't come cheap.
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But what about the other 99% of the people?



Many of them, granted some are too thick to even be allowed to breed, but many could learn from the 1% to get off their backsides and make the effort to better themselves and then they too could help Chanel employ two more less lazy Londoners.

Many do go to work Richard but even with London weighting, you need to be earning well in excess of the national average....and then comes the issue of finding an affordable place to live. Rents are exorbitant and property purchase a fantasy dream. Living in London doesn't come cheap.


You could live like a king up here on £30k a year but you would need two or three times that for the same standard of living in London yet the average wage there is less than £40K!! Only about £11K more than the country wide average. I wouldnt go back there for less than well in excess of five figures. Even a fecking beer was about seven quid last time I Was there.
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John52 - 2018-09-14 8:42 PM

But what about the other 99% of the people?



Many of them, granted some are too thick to even be allowed to breed, but many could learn from the 1% to get off their backsides and make the effort to better themselves and then they too could help Chanel employ two more less lazy Londoners.

Many do go to work Richard but even with London weighting, you need to be earning well in excess of the national average....and then comes the issue of finding an affordable place to live. Rents are exorbitant and property purchase a fantasy dream. Living in London doesn't come cheap.


You could live like a king up here on £30k a year but you would need two or three times that for the same standard of living in London yet the average wage there is less than £40K!! Only about £11K more than the country wide average. I wouldnt go back there for less than well in excess of five figures. Even a fecking beer was about seven quid last time I Was there.

Joint income needs to be around the £100k mark for a reasonable (not excessive) standard of living. I spent a week at my lads place to see my grandchildren after coming back into UK. I'd only got about £40 in cash so withdrew £100 from an ATM once off the ferry. Three days later i'd got just a tenner in cash left. £100 goes nowhere in London with espresso's costing £2.75 to £3.50 a shot (Serbia and Bulgaria i'm paying around 50p.....and that's brought to the table!) or a takeaway for three of us £56.

Beers? Get half p*ssed for a tenner in Poland or Romania and a fresh cooked quality meal can easily be found for a fiver or less at a nice Restaurant.
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Utter rubbish ... I know lads who work in London all the time and they say like anywhere you have to look around for value ... You can pay big money to drink and eat out there but you can do the same here in Huddersfield ... We have pubs knocking out £2 pints then we have bars knocking out much higher priced beer ... Its the same in all big towns and cities ... As for surviving/living you dont need anywhere near what Barry says to live in London if ya did why are folk so eager to live there ... Average families live quite happily on quite average wages
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antony1969 - 2018-09-15 6:49 AM

Utter rubbish ... I know lads who work in London all the time and they say like anywhere you have to look around for value ... You can pay big money to drink and eat out there but you can do the same here in Huddersfield ... We have pubs knocking out £2 pints then we have bars knocking out much higher priced beer ... Its the same in all big towns and cities ... As for surviving/living you dont need anywhere near what Barry says to live in London if ya did why are folk so eager to live there ... Average families live quite happily on quite average wages


Well that wasnt my experience but its been a while. I think you can just about exist on average wages but its a miserable life unless your on a good screw. I remember being totally horrified when I worked there and found out how much staff were paying for rent or mortgages compared to oop North and even just travelling about and commuting put a big dent in your wage. The office I worked in in Darlington relocated in 1997/8. I was only one of a handful that went.with them. For me it was the best decision I ever made but the staff in Darlo were paid less, were much higher calibre but were wealthy and had a great life. Staff in London were paid more but never seemed to have a pot to pi$$ in or anything left over. Im talking secretaries, admin staff etc on pretty average wages. IT was the same in the branches. Those up north were paid less but were generally better staff but seemed to be better off than equivalent London staff.

The difference about London was the sky was the limit. Your chances to fly there were much much higher than anywhere else and once you hit the spring board if you were lucky enough you were away but it was s**te if you were in a dead end job.
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John52 - 2018-09-14 8:42 PM

But what about the other 99% of the people?



Many of them, granted some are too thick to even be allowed to breed, but many could learn from the 1% to get off their backsides and make the effort to better themselves and then they too could help Chanel employ two more less lazy Londoners.

Many do go to work Richard but even with London weighting, you need to be earning well in excess of the national average....and then comes the issue of finding an affordable place to live. Rents are exorbitant and property purchase a fantasy dream. Living in London doesn't come cheap.


You could live like a king up here on £30k a year but you would need two or three times that for the same standard of living in London yet the average wage there is less than £40K!! Only about £11K more than the country wide average. I wouldnt go back there for less than well in excess of five figures. Even a fecking beer was about seven quid last time I Was there.


I wouldn't live there full stop ...........I prefer to live in Britain ......not a international cesspit ........

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John52 - 2018-09-14 8:42 PM

But what about the other 99% of the people?



Many of them, granted some are too thick to even be allowed to breed, but many could learn from the 1% to get off their backsides and make the effort to better themselves and then they too could help Chanel employ two more less lazy Londoners.

Many do go to work Richard but even with London weighting, you need to be earning well in excess of the national average....and then comes the issue of finding an affordable place to live. Rents are exorbitant and property purchase a fantasy dream. Living in London doesn't come cheap.


You could live like a king up here on £30k a year but you would need two or three times that for the same standard of living in London yet the average wage there is less than £40K!! Only about £11K more than the country wide average. I wouldnt go back there for less than well in excess of five figures. Even a fecking beer was about seven quid last time I Was there.


I wouldn't live there full stop ...........I prefer to live in Britain ......not a international cesspit ........



Thats a bit racist
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John52 - 2018-09-14 8:42 PM

But what about the other 99% of the people?



Many of them, granted some are too thick to even be allowed to breed, but many could learn from the 1% to get off their backsides and make the effort to better themselves and then they too could help Chanel employ two more less lazy Londoners.

Many do go to work Richard but even with London weighting, you need to be earning well in excess of the national average....and then comes the issue of finding an affordable place to live. Rents are exorbitant and property purchase a fantasy dream. Living in London doesn't come cheap.


You could live like a king up here on £30k a year but you would need two or three times that for the same standard of living in London yet the average wage there is less than £40K!! Only about £11K more than the country wide average. I wouldnt go back there for less than well in excess of five figures. Even a fecking beer was about seven quid last time I Was there.


I wouldn't live there full stop ...........I prefer to live in Britain ......not a international cesspit ........



Thats a bit racist


No...... its Cesspitist ..........

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Utter rubbish ... I know lads who work in London all the time and they say like anywhere you have to look around for value ... You can pay big money to drink and eat out there but you can do the same here in Huddersfield ... We have pubs knocking out £2 pints then we have bars knocking out much higher priced beer ... Its the same in all big towns and cities ... As for surviving/living you dont need anywhere near what Barry says to live in London if ya did why are folk so eager to live there ... Average families live quite happily on quite average wages


Well that wasnt my experience but its been a while. I think you can just about exist on average wages but its a miserable life unless your on a good screw. I remember being totally horrified when I worked there and found out how much staff were paying for rent or mortgages compared to oop North and even just travelling about and commuting put a big dent in your wage. The office I worked in in Darlington relocated in 1997/8. I was only one of a handful that went.with them. For me it was the best decision I ever made but the staff in Darlo were paid less, were much higher calibre but were wealthy and had a great life. Staff in London were paid more but never seemed to have a pot to pi$$ in or anything left over. Im talking secretaries, admin staff etc on pretty average wages. IT was the same in the branches. Those up north were paid less but were generally better staff but seemed to be better off than equivalent London staff.

The difference about London was the sky was the limit. Your chances to fly there were much much higher than anywhere else and once you hit the spring board if you were lucky enough you were away but it was s**te if you were in a dead end job.


Of course you can exist and more on average wages in London or anywhere else millions do ... Working in London and living in digs be it a Band B or top hotel and going out on the fizz every night aint the real world Barry but then again you aint lived in the real world for years ... Who'd wanna live in London anyway you need a stab vest on just to take the dog for a walk and you cant walk down the streets for fear of being robbed by those on scooters or getting acid whizzed in ya mush ... Minging place and aint guna get any better with Sadick in charge
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John52 - 2018-09-14 8:42 PM

But what about the other 99% of the people?



Many of them, granted some are too thick to even be allowed to breed, but many could learn from the 1% to get off their backsides and make the effort to better themselves and then they too could help Chanel employ two more less lazy Londoners.

Many do go to work Richard but even with London weighting, you need to be earning well in excess of the national average....and then comes the issue of finding an affordable place to live. Rents are exorbitant and property purchase a fantasy dream. Living in London doesn't come cheap.


You could live like a king up here on £30k a year but you would need two or three times that for the same standard of living in London yet the average wage there is less than £40K!! Only about £11K more than the country wide average. I wouldnt go back there for less than well in excess of five figures. Even a fecking beer was about seven quid last time I Was there.


I wouldn't live there full stop ...........I prefer to live in Britain ......not a international cesspit ........



Thats a bit racist


No...... its Cesspitist ..........



Thats gotta be racistist to cesspitists surely ... A bit
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Utter rubbish ... I know lads who work in London all the time and they say like anywhere you have to look around for value ... You can pay big money to drink and eat out there but you can do the same here in Huddersfield ... We have pubs knocking out £2 pints then we have bars knocking out much higher priced beer ... Its the same in all big towns and cities ... As for surviving/living you dont need anywhere near what Barry says to live in London if ya did why are folk so eager to live there ... Average families live quite happily on quite average wages


Well that wasnt my experience but its been a while. I think you can just about exist on average wages but its a miserable life unless your on a good screw. I remember being totally horrified when I worked there and found out how much staff were paying for rent or mortgages compared to oop North and even just travelling about and commuting put a big dent in your wage. The office I worked in in Darlington relocated in 1997/8. I was only one of a handful that went.with them. For me it was the best decision I ever made but the staff in Darlo were paid less, were much higher calibre but were wealthy and had a great life. Staff in London were paid more but never seemed to have a pot to pi$$ in or anything left over. Im talking secretaries, admin staff etc on pretty average wages. IT was the same in the branches. Those up north were paid less but were generally better staff but seemed to be better off than equivalent London staff.

The difference about London was the sky was the limit. Your chances to fly there were much much higher than anywhere else and once you hit the spring board if you were lucky enough you were away but it was s**te if you were in a dead end job.


Of course you can exist and more on average wages in London or anywhere else millions do ... Working in London and living in digs be it a Band B or top hotel and going out on the fizz every night aint the real world Barry but then again you aint lived in the real world for years ... Who'd wanna live in London anyway you need a stab vest on just to take the dog for a walk and you cant walk down the streets for fear of being robbed by those on scooters or getting acid whizzed in ya mush ... Minging place and aint guna get any better with Sadick in charge


Existing is not living though is it? And whaddaya mean Ive not lived in the real world for years? I had to stay in a Premier Inn once when the Hilton was closed for a refurb. No fecking room service! That was an eye opener I Can tell you.

I dont remember having to wear a stab vest though. Then again I didnt have a dog or walk anywhere. How many millions of tourists come each year without getting killed to death?
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Three days later i'd got just a tenner in cash left. £100 goes nowhere in London with espresso's costing £2.75 to £3.50 a shot (Serbia and Bulgaria i'm paying around 50p.....and that's brought to the table!) or a takeaway for three of us £56.

Beers? Get half p*ssed for a tenner in Poland or Romania and a fresh cooked quality meal can easily be found for a fiver or less at a nice Restaurant.


Nobody needs espresso coffee or beer or to eat out to live happily so if a few more addicts got their priorites right and spent their money on what they really need rather than what they fancy they might suddenly find that life ain't so bad after all?
In order to reach the good years many of us went through tough years and I do have to say that on balance not having a new car when all my mates did or expensive foreign holidays or boozy nights out or over priced meals at poncy restaurants was worth the sacrifice to sit very comfortably and be able to afford those things now.
Better to be a smart customer with a dumb phone than a dumb customer with a smart phone.

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Three days later i'd got just a tenner in cash left. £100 goes nowhere in London with espresso's costing £2.75 to £3.50 a shot (Serbia and Bulgaria i'm paying around 50p.....and that's brought to the table!) or a takeaway for three of us £56.

Beers? Get half p*ssed for a tenner in Poland or Romania and a fresh cooked quality meal can easily be found for a fiver or less at a nice Restaurant.


Nobody needs espresso coffee or beer or to eat out to live happily so if a few more addicts got their priorites right and spent their money on what they really need rather than what they fancy they might suddenly find that life ain't so bad after all?
In order to reach the good years many of us went through tough years and I do have to say that on balance not having a new car when all my mates did or expensive foreign holidays or boozy nights out or over priced meals at poncy restaurants was worth the sacrifice to sit very comfortably and be able to afford those things now.
Better to be a smart customer with a dumb phone than a dumb customer with a smart phone.

Just examples i used to show the extremes. Life in UK isn't cheap..period. Price of an espresso has crept up to £2.25 in my locality which is well north of London. As for me personally i rarely drink in UK as the social atmosphere has gone (along with many pubs too!) since the smoke ban. Also never bothered at home....eg, this year i left UK end of May prior to which the last time i'd had a drink was New Years eve. As for new cars....i've never bought new in my life and wouldn't thank you for one either. Every vehicle i've owned, including my current van, i've paid cash outright. Still work on the old adage my Dad drummed into me as a kid....."if you haven't got the money in your savings or bank account then you can't afford it". May seem harsh to some, but it kept me away from the pitfalls of life on finance.
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Bulletguy - 2018-09-15 3:35 PM
Still work on the old adage my Dad drummed into me as a kid....."if you haven't got the money in your savings or bank account then you can't afford it". May seem harsh to some, but it kept me away from the pitfalls of life on finance.


Exactly, try telling that to today's generation of credit card wielding consumerism mad keeping up with their mates obsessed spendthrifts.

If the principles that we used to ensure financial security applied to today's generations the country would be a happier place, although VAT income might well go down so more income tax would be needed!

Whatever happens with Brexit our finances are solid so I doubt it will matter on a personal basis, but I do wonder about those who are up to, or over, their earballs in debt!

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Utter rubbish ... I know lads who work in London all the time and they say like anywhere you have to look around for value ... You can pay big money to drink and eat out there but you can do the same here in Huddersfield ... We have pubs knocking out £2 pints then we have bars knocking out much higher priced beer ... Its the same in all big towns and cities ... As for surviving/living you dont need anywhere near what Barry says to live in London if ya did why are folk so eager to live there ... Average families live quite happily on quite average wages


Well that wasnt my experience but its been a while. I think you can just about exist on average wages but its a miserable life unless your on a good screw. I remember being totally horrified when I worked there and found out how much staff were paying for rent or mortgages compared to oop North and even just travelling about and commuting put a big dent in your wage. The office I worked in in Darlington relocated in 1997/8. I was only one of a handful that went.with them. For me it was the best decision I ever made but the staff in Darlo were paid less, were much higher calibre but were wealthy and had a great life. Staff in London were paid more but never seemed to have a pot to pi$$ in or anything left over. Im talking secretaries, admin staff etc on pretty average wages. IT was the same in the branches. Those up north were paid less but were generally better staff but seemed to be better off than equivalent London staff.

The difference about London was the sky was the limit. Your chances to fly there were much much higher than anywhere else and once you hit the spring board if you were lucky enough you were away but it was s**te if you were in a dead end job.


Of course you can exist and more on average wages in London or anywhere else millions do ... Working in London and living in digs be it a Band B or top hotel and going out on the fizz every night aint the real world Barry but then again you aint lived in the real world for years ... Who'd wanna live in London anyway you need a stab vest on just to take the dog for a walk and you cant walk down the streets for fear of being robbed by those on scooters or getting acid whizzed in ya mush ... Minging place and aint guna get any better with Sadick in charge


Existing is not living though is it? And whaddaya mean Ive not lived in the real world for years? I had to stay in a Premier Inn once when the Hilton was closed for a refurb. No fecking room service! That was an eye opener I Can tell you.

I dont remember having to wear a stab vest though. Then again I didnt have a dog or walk anywhere. How many millions of tourists come each year without getting killed to death?


Depends what you class as existing ... Do you exist in Bottom Shafta or live the high life ... If you live the high life and live like kings as you claim up north on 30k then them London types can manage quite nicely on average wages ... You prolly in all fairness need a stab vest in London if your black as it seems black lives really dont matter
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Still work on the old adage my Dad drummed into me as a kid....."if you haven't got the money in your savings or bank account then you can't afford it". May seem harsh to some, but it kept me away from the pitfalls of life on finance.


Exactly, try telling that to today's generation of credit card wielding consumerism mad keeping up with their mates obsessed spendthrifts.

If the principles that we used to ensure financial security applied to today's generations the country would be a happier place, although VAT income might well go down so more income tax would be needed!

Whatever happens with Brexit our finances are solid so I doubt it will matter on a personal basis, but I do wonder about those who are up to, or over, their earballs in debt!

My Dad came from another generation, another era where debt was considered a total taboo. He refused to have a credit card when they first came out and stubbornly remained that way for years. I've got credit cards...one for each bank account but have them set up to make automatic payment in full. They are perfectly fine as long as they are used like that not to mention the security they give against certain purchase, plus having a permanent record. Where folk go wrong with them is making a minimum monthly payment as that's the slippery slope toward debt....which will mount up very very quickly.
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This is getting to be a habit, but I totally agree.

Debt has been, and I predict it will be again, the downfall of many, including governments who should know better.
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Well thats it then ... Sadicks calling for a second vote ... https://news.sky.com/story/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-calls-for-second-brexit-referendum-11499420 ... Friend and relative of quite a few dodgy types and overseer of the murder madness in London calls it ... Second vote it is then ... Hang on a minute ... Thats not what he said about the first neverendum ... https://twitter.com/Change_Britain/status/1041067722786959360 ... Horrible man

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pelmetman - 2018-09-14 9:56 AM
I think I'll take Moody's predictions with a large pinch of salt ..........


So you won't listen to the credit ratings agencies or Bank of England Governor
Did you read Jacob Rees Mogg's dad's book and put your money in the EU like he has done?




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How do you doom and gloom merchants think we survived before we joined the Common Market.. Then we traded with Europe, and the rest of the world satisfactory . We traveled abroad every year, driving, flying or coaching with no problems. In fact the only problems I remember was when the French were on strike for one reason or another.
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I think I'll take Moody's predictions with a large pinch of salt ..........


So you won't listen to the credit ratings agencies or Bank of England Governor
Did you read Jacob Rees Mogg's dad's book and put your money in the EU like he has done?


I'll take Eeyore's chum's predictions with a even larger pinch of salt ............

BTW where did Buffet tell you to put your money? ...........



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Still work on the old adage my Dad drummed into me as a kid....."if you haven't got the money in your savings or bank account then you can't afford it". May seem harsh to some, but it kept me away from the pitfalls of life on finance.


Exactly, try telling that to today's generation of credit card wielding consumerism mad keeping up with their mates obsessed spendthrifts.

If the principles that we used to ensure financial security applied to today's generations the country would be a happier place, although VAT income might well go down so more income tax would be needed!

Whatever happens with Brexit our finances are solid so I doubt it will matter on a personal basis, but I do wonder about those who are up to, or over, their earballs in debt!

My Dad came from another generation, another era where debt was considered a total taboo. He refused to have a credit card when they first came out and stubbornly remained that way for years. I've got credit cards...one for each bank account but have them set up to make automatic payment in full. They are perfectly fine as long as they are used like that not to mention the security they give against certain purchase, plus having a permanent record. Where folk go wrong with them is making a minimum monthly payment as that's the slippery slope toward debt....which will mount up very very quickly.


If your worried about debt you wont be voting in a Labour government .........



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antony1969 - 2018-09-16 3:11 AM

Well thats it then ... Sadicks calling for a second vote ... https://news.sky.com/story/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-calls-for-second-brexit-referendum-11499420 ... Friend and relative of quite a few dodgy types and overseer of the murder madness in London calls it ... Second vote it is then ... Hang on a minute ... Thats not what he said about the first neverendum ... https://twitter.com/Change_Britain/status/1041067722786959360 ... Horrible man


Maybe he has "changed his mind!!! Da da Daaaahhh!

Perhaps he has looked at just how badly Brexit is going and took the logical stance that when faced with the prospect of no deal or a crap deal neither of which anyone voted for that it might be a good idea to ask the public if its really what they want.

Sounds sensible to me.

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Well thats it then ... Sadicks calling for a second vote ... https://news.sky.com/story/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-calls-for-second-brexit-referendum-11499420 ... Friend and relative of quite a few dodgy types and overseer of the murder madness in London calls it ... Second vote it is then ... Hang on a minute ... Thats not what he said about the first neverendum ... https://twitter.com/Change_Britain/status/1041067722786959360 ... Horrible man


Maybe he has "changed his mind!!! Da da Daaaahhh!

Perhaps he has looked at just how badly Brexit is going and took the logical stance that when faced with the prospect of no deal or a crap deal neither of which anyone voted for that it might be a good idea to ask the public if its really what they want.

Sounds sensible to me.


So long as the two questions are........

1)....Do you want to leave with the deal?

2)....Do you want to leave without a deal?

Sounds sensible to me.........we've already been asked if we want to leave ........

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Well thats it then ... Sadicks calling for a second vote ... https://news.sky.com/story/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-calls-for-second-brexit-referendum-11499420 ... Friend and relative of quite a few dodgy types and overseer of the murder madness in London calls it ... Second vote it is then ... Hang on a minute ... Thats not what he said about the first neverendum ... https://twitter.com/Change_Britain/status/1041067722786959360 ... Horrible man


Maybe he has "changed his mind!!! Da da Daaaahhh!

Perhaps he has looked at just how badly Brexit is going and took the logical stance that when faced with the prospect of no deal or a crap deal neither of which anyone voted for that it might be a good idea to ask the public if its really what they want.

Sounds sensible to me.


So long as the two questions are........

1)....Do you want to leave with the deal?

2)....Do you want to leave without a deal?

Sounds sensible to me.........we've already been asked if we want to leave ........



How is that sensible? We cant leave without a deal as firstly nobody wants that (least nobody of sound mind ) and we would actually break the law now leaving with no deal and if the deal is as crap as I suspect it will be then people may decide that neither option is acceptable and choose maybe even reluctantly to remain. If the deal delivers everything that the Brexiteers promised it would in 2016 and its all hunky dory then we wont need a vote will we? Lets see what it is huh?

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Well thats it then ... Sadicks calling for a second vote ... https://news.sky.com/story/london-mayor-sadiq-khan-calls-for-second-brexit-referendum-11499420 ... Friend and relative of quite a few dodgy types and overseer of the murder madness in London calls it ... Second vote it is then ... Hang on a minute ... Thats not what he said about the first neverendum ... https://twitter.com/Change_Britain/status/1041067722786959360 ... Horrible man


Maybe he has "changed his mind!!! Da da Daaaahhh!

Perhaps he has looked at just how badly Brexit is going and took the logical stance that when faced with the prospect of no deal or a crap deal neither of which anyone voted for that it might be a good idea to ask the public if its really what they want.

Sounds sensible to me.


So long as the two questions are........

1)....Do you want to leave with the deal?

2)....Do you want to leave without a deal?

Sounds sensible to me.........we've already been asked if we want to leave ........



How is that sensible? We cant leave without a deal as firstly nobody wants that (least nobody of sound mind ) and we would actually break the law now leaving with no deal and if the deal is as crap as I suspect it will be then people may decide that neither option is acceptable and choose maybe even reluctantly to remain. If the deal delivers everything that the Brexiteers promised it would in 2016 and its all hunky dory then we wont need a vote will we? Lets see what it is huh?



So Remoaners don't do sensible .......

You've already agreed any deal will be a bad deal ........

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pelmetman - 2018-09-16 8:44 AM
If your worried about debt you wont be voting in a Labour government .........


Go On - how does the Mad Hatter work that one out when debt increased far more under the Tories


(despite all the Austerity for the poor because it was dwarfed by tax avoidance by the super-rich)
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Posted: 16 September 2018 8:22 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-09-16 4:09 PM
You've already agreed any deal will be a bad deal ........



Err No - the deal promised by the Brexiteers that was voted for would be a good deal and we should accept it.
Any other deal should be given another votie.
Otherwise we will be getting a deal nobody voted for which only the Mad Hatter would think is sensible.



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Posted: 16 September 2018 8:45 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-09-16 8:44 AM
If your worried about debt you wont be voting in a Labour government .........


Go On - how does the Mad Hatter work that one out when debt increased far more under the Tories


(despite all the Austerity for the poor because it was dwarfed by tax avoidance by the super-rich)


Still trying to rewrite history Peter ...........

Everyone knows Labour max'd out the UK's credit card before the crash that Brown helped enable ...............
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Posted: 16 September 2018 9:14 PM
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pelmetman - 2018-09-16 8:44 AM
If your worried about debt you wont be voting in a Labour government .........


Go On - how does the Mad Hatter work that one out when debt increased far more under the Tories


(despite all the Austerity for the poor because it was dwarfed by tax avoidance by the super-rich)


Still trying to rewrite history Peter ...........

Everyone knows Labour max'd out the UK's credit card before the crash that Brown helped enable ...............


Everyone who reads the Daily Mail you mean
Wheras those who look at the figures see a different picture




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Posted: 16 September 2018 9:43 PM
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Hard to argue against that chart. Ferkin ell.

How will a smashed economy from Brexit help that? Tax revenues will be hammered.
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Posted: 17 September 2018 5:37 AM
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pelmetman - 2018-09-16 4:09 PM
So Remoaners don't do sensible .......

And whats sensible to the Mad Hatter.
You believe politicians who tell you Brexit is good for Britain whilst they are getting their own money out of it. Is that sensible
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Posted: 17 September 2018 5:41 AM
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Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 9:43 PM

Tax revenues will be hammered.


Especially when they turn the English mainland into another tax haven for the super-rich to welcome back their 'newspaper' owners
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Posted: 17 September 2018 7:04 AM
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If you buy a Premium Bond ... I think you have to buy at least 100 now ... HMG owes you £1. That is one pound added to the National Debt. The same applies to National Savings. Isn't "saving" supposed to be a good thing?

If I buy a potatot from you for £5, that five pounds is added to the GDP. If I then sell the same potato back to you, another five pounds is added to the GDP. HMG regard this as a "Good Thing", as they hope to collect some tax on both transactions. I presume that they would rather you bought potato crisps rather than basic potatoes. This system strikes me as being not difficult to cook the books.

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Posted: 17 September 2018 7:13 AM
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Hi,

Looking at the above National Debt chart, I see that Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power.

The Conservatives have added about 50% in seven years.

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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:24 AM
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W3526602 - 2018-09-17 7:04 AM
Isn't "saving" supposed to be a good thing?

I think it was until Osborne decided to give a pre-election boost to the economy by encouraging people to cash in their pensions early - feeling rich because theit house prices had risen as they built less to restrict the supply.
Then counting rent inflation as 'Growth' .
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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:28 AM
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W3526602 - 2018-09-17 7:13 AM

Hi,

Looking at the above National Debt chart, I see that Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power.

The Conservatives have added about 50% in seven years.

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You could get a job on the Daily Mail
National Debt took off when NEW Labour bailed out the banks - Osborne had been calling for even more deregulation but he and the Daily Mail went quiet about that when it lead to the financial crisis.
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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:29 AM
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W3526602 - 2018-09-17 7:13 AM

Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power.

That was NEW Labour.
Should we blame Corbyn for them when he voted against them over 200 times?
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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:31 AM
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Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 9:43 PM

Hard to argue against that chart. Ferkin ell.

How will a smashed economy from Brexit help that? Tax revenues will be hammered.


All that chart proves is Labour's spending coming home to roost after they helped cause the financial crash ..........

Have you ever known Labour leave government with the economy in a healthy state? .........

BTW if folk think Brexit will damage the economy ..............

You better not vote in Corbyn ........unless you believe in magic money trees ..........

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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:33 AM
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Hi,

Looking at the above National Debt chart, I see that Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power.

The Conservatives have added about 50% in seven years.

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You could get a job on the Daily Mail
National Debt took off when NEW Labour bailed out the banks - Osborne had been calling for even more deregulation but he and the Daily Mail went quiet about that when it lead to the financial crisis.


Has Labour EVER left office with the economy in a better state than when they took it over? ........

Just askin ..........

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Posted: 17 September 2018 8:34 AM
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Labour almost doubled the debt in the last two years they were in power.

That was NEW Labour.
Should we blame Corbyn for them when he voted against them over 200 times?


So OLD Labour wont feck up the economy??? ...........

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Posted: 18 September 2018 7:30 AM
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<<< National Debt took off when NEW Labour bailed out the banks - >>>

Hi,

If I invest my money (including in a pension pot) I am gambling. I can't remember which government required me to gamble my life savings in an anuity.

If somebody gambles and loses, I do not like the idea that I have to pay to bail them out, but I can accept that some gamblers ... sorry, businesses ... are too big to be allowed to fail. But now we know that mega financial SNAFUs CAN occur, why isn't there a laid down procedure, so that potential perps know what awaits them if they get too cocky wih our money.

It would not surprise me to learn that our local councillors were "encouraged" to invest in the Icelandic banks. I was amazed when I calculated the amount of "spare" cash per resident (on average) that was available for investment, in my little town in Souh Wales.

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Posted: 18 September 2018 10:55 AM
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Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 9:43 PM

Hard to argue against that chart. Ferkin ell.

How will a smashed economy from Brexit help that? Tax revenues will be hammered.


All that chart proves is Labour's spending coming home to roost after they helped cause the financial crash ..........

Have you ever known Labour leave government with the economy in a healthy state? .........

BTW if folk think Brexit will damage the economy ..............

You better not vote in Corbyn ........unless you believe in magic money trees ..........



Does it prove that? I agree that it is showing signs of increasing as Labour leave and the Tories take over but they have had eight years to reduce it and its still spiralling out of control. Austerity hasnt helped it would seem but it probably did help swing the Brexit vote which ironically could also see Labour getting back into government. If that happens it will be you the Brexiteers who voted Corbyn in.

Oh the Irony.
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Posted: 18 September 2018 11:00 AM
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Barryd999 - 2018-09-16 9:43 PM

Hard to argue against that chart. Ferkin ell.

How will a smashed economy from Brexit help that? Tax revenues will be hammered.


All that chart proves is Labour's spending coming home to roost after they helped cause the financial crash ..........

Have you ever known Labour leave government with the economy in a healthy state? .........

BTW if folk think Brexit will damage the economy ..............

You better not vote in Corbyn ........unless you believe in magic money trees ..........



Does it prove that? I agree that it is showing signs of increasing as Labour leave and the Tories take over but they have had eight years to reduce it and its still spiralling out of control. Austerity hasnt helped it would seem but it probably did help swing the Brexit vote which ironically could also see Labour getting back into government. If that happens it will be you the Brexiteers who voted Corbyn in.

Oh the Irony.


Will he get in? ..............By now any half decent opposition should be way out in front in the polls .......

The way things are going.......come next election they'll be 2 Labour parties and 2 Tory parties to vote for ...........

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Posted: 22 September 2018 9:20 AM
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Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.
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Posted: 22 September 2018 11:02 AM
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John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM

Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.


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Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM
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Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad"

Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? .........

Unless you were being hypocritical again? ..........

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Posted: 23 September 2018 3:08 PM
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John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM

Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.


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Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM
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Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad"

Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? .........

Unless you were being hypocritical again? ..........



Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing?

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Posted: 24 September 2018 9:10 AM
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John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM

Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.


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Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM
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Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad"

Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? .........

Unless you were being hypocritical again? ..........



Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing?


So you put your money abroad AFTER the Brexit vote???? ...........

Nah you put your dosh abroad years ago when that well known Capitalist Mr Buffett told you to do so.......Typical Socialist hypocrisy ........










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The thought crossed my mind toay, that the Remoaners suggestion that we can influence EU decision making by remaining ... Influence from the inside ... could similarly apply to British Jews.

They should join the Labour Party.

I wonder if there are enough Jews in England to make that idea work? Probably not, otherwise Corbyn would not be against them.

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John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM

Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.


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Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM
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Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad"

Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? .........

Unless you were being hypocritical again? ..........



Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing?


So you put your money abroad AFTER the Brexit vote???? ...........

Nah you put your dosh abroad years ago when that well known Capitalist Mr Buffett told you to do so.......Typical Socialist hypocrisy ........










I've never denied being a free enterprise Capitalist
Which is why I object to Government intervention in the housing market to produce a rent extracting economy - effectively Socialism for the rich - posing as free enterprise.
I'm only a Communist when measured by Mad Hatter standards
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Posted: 25 September 2018 3:43 PM
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All around the world those who claim to be socialists are only socialists with everyone else's money but with their own money they tend to be capitalists.
I suppose that is what makes them such experts at the hypocrisy they accuse others of?
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Posted: 25 September 2018 4:15 PM
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John52 - 2018-09-22 9:20 AM

Back to topic. My No-Deal Brexit planning was already in place. 90% of my lfe savings in the S&P 500 when Warren Buffet suggested it to his wife. So a No Deal Brexit would lead to another crash in the pound and raise my savings to a new record high.
I still hope it doesn't happen though - because of the damage it would do to Britain.


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Posted: 22 September 2018 10:21 AM
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Yep, fortunes have shifted - abroad"

Oh you mean't your fortune with the above post? .........

Unless you were being hypocritical again? ..........



Whats hypocritical about my avoiding a disaster I had no part in causing?


So you put your money abroad AFTER the Brexit vote???? ...........

Nah you put your dosh abroad years ago when that well known Capitalist Mr Buffett told you to do so.......Typical Socialist hypocrisy ........










I've never denied being a free enterprise Capitalist
Which is why I object to Government intervention in the housing market to produce a rent extracting economy - effectively Socialism for the rich - posing as free enterprise.
I'm only a Communist when measured by Mad Hatter standards


But your a typical Socialist hypocrite measured by anyone's standards ...........

VOTE LABOUR.......VOTE HYPOCRITES .........

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only socialists with everyone else's money


Since, (unlike your Tory Brextremists domiciled in Her Unelected Majesty's Tax Havens) I am paying my full share of taxes its my money too.

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Posted: 28 September 2018 12:39 PM
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only socialists with everyone else's money


Since, (unlike your Tory Brextremists domiciled in Her Unelected Majesty's Tax Havens) I am paying my full share of taxes its my money too.


You do know what domiciled means? ..........ie they don't live here so can only stay for a maximum of 6 months........which is why I only spend 5 months in Spain.......because I'm domiciled in the UK ........

https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor-visa

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Hi,

France, and several other countries have a WEALTH tax. Presumably that means that if you live in France, or whereever, you pay tax to the French Government, and then you have to pay more tax on "wealth" that you have anywhere in the world.

I recently heard of somebody paying taxes to Norway, on property he owned in Scotland.

That should concentrate the minds of off-shore investors.

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W3526602 - 2018-09-28 4:16 PM
That should concentrate the minds of off-shore investors.

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It already has.
Corbyn has proposed something similar, so all the 'newspaper' owners domiciled in HM Tax Havens are trying to put the skids under him.
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<<< Corbyn has proposed something similar, >>>

Hi John 52,

I can't argue with that, assuming you are correct.

I understood that two people are forbidden to do anything right. The first is the Prime Minister (any Prime Minister), and that covers the second ... the self-appointed Prime Minister in Waiting.

Did Corbyn suggest what wealth would be needed to make one eligible to pay this tax? How does that figure compare with Corbyn's declared wealth.

To keep things fair, the tax should be payable on either ....

Any income earned on that wealth in UK, or ...

The assumed interest that would be earned IF it was invested in the UK.

The Treasury can then set the rate to encourage this wealth to be stored in the UK.

When we bought our hovel in France, we were told that due to the change from Francs to the Euro, many French peasants had to launder their wealth from a "under the mattress" into derelict property ... with, no doubt, a few Francs being lost or gained on the way.

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