pelmetman - 2021-04-29 7:48 AM

So plenty of job opportunities for those who lost theirs due to the Pandemic .........

Birdbrain - 2021-04-30 12:25 PM

Since easing of lockdown my missus has eaten twice locally with no service issues ... Just had 5 days cycling on our government backed bikes around the lovely East Yorkshire coast, had 2 meals out with no service issues ... The Ship Inn had 5 staff waiting on folk and all of em spoke their mother tongue English perfectly ... Sometimes reality gets in the way of hatey scaremongering ... Be happy

CurtainRaiser - 2021-04-30 2:46 PM

More waiters are now available

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/black-day-hull-fishermen-without-5359979

Birdbrain - 2021-05-21 12:14 PM

Fake news update ... No issues in the part of the lakes we've just been to with regards to the "no-one to pull your great British pint" claim ... Reality has a nasty habit of dashing Hollywood guff

CurtainRaiser - 2021-05-31 8:50 PM



The locals disagree, their study is a bit more scientific than your "I got served" analysis

https://www.cwherald.com/news/where-are-the-workers-recruitment-crisis-threatens-hospitality-industry/

CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-01 8:04 PM

So who to believe? The directors of the Cumbria Chamber of Commerce and Cumbria Tourism, or Tweetiepie?

Well it looks like the survey carried out by the paper provides a accurate answer.

Our survey says:
223 vacancies across 75 establishments.
Average of three vacancies per establishment.
75% of establishments are hiring now.
71% of places hiring need front of house and 65% need chefs.
A quarter of places not hiring have just taken on new staff.
Most in need: 1: Derwenidioter Hotel, Portinscale (19); 2: North Lakes Hotel, Penrith (15): 3: Another Place, the Lake, Ullswater (12).

Birdbrain - 2021-06-01 8:28 PM



Lordy ... I point out numerous times I have had no issue with what the Hollywood OP claimed, "theres no one to pull your great British pint" and you go all tizzy ... I have had numerous pints and theres always been someone to pull it which totally goes against what the OP was boldly claiming ... As for Cumbria it has always had issues with hospitality employment, my daughter and SIL were both at university in Cumbria and never had any shortage of hospitality jobs while there ... Try again, if you must

CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-01 10:32 PM



Tim Martin then?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/06/01/wetherspoons-boss-calls-eu-migration-tackle-bar-staff-shortage/

CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-01 10:32 PM



Tim Martin then?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/06/01/wetherspoons-boss-calls-eu-migration-tackle-bar-staff-shortage/

Birdbrain - 2021-06-02 6:26 AM



Yawn ... Is Brexit to blame in France for a shortage of hospitality workers ... https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210507-french-restaurants-struggle-to-fill-jobs-lost-in-lockdown ... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/business/france-workers-restaurants-hotels.html ... What about Germany ... https://www.ft.com/content/d35e0ecf-417d-4d57-a075-74c2d4ddcbb8 ... I'll update later as my missus is going out for lunch with a friend today on wether she managed to find someone to pull her drink

Barryd999 - 2021-06-02 10:06 AM



You really couldnt make it up. Also here if your not a Torygraph subscriber https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/wetherspoons-boss-tim-martin-calls-for-more-eu-migration-help-staff-bars-brexit/

Never mind. The bars will be stuffed full of Indians and Hong Kongers soon.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-02 5:47 PM

As for Mr Martin, looks a bit like fake news, which from the squad aint nowt new

CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-02 8:48 PM



Pleased that you have finally recognized that the Torygraph is fake news.

Bulletguy - 2021-06-02 6:51 PM


Probably his staff have done what he told them to do last year.

https://tinyurl.com/5c77zuvy

The bloke is a despicable two faced hypocrite and wanted Brexit but now it's backfired on him he's changed his tune. I've no sympathy as he's brought it on himself. He could of course simply pay a better wage and offer decent working conditions so that he can attract UK nationals. After all, part of the reason people wanted Brexit in the first place because they claimed FOM apparently depressed wages.

Barryd999 - 2021-06-03 8:16 AM



LOL! Can you imagine his customers reaction (who all voted for Brexit) when they go for their warm piss beer breakfast and its doubled in price because Tims had to pay a decent wage to attract British workers?

It just staggers me how someone so Dim who can hardly string two words together has built up such a huge chain of pubs and been so successful.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-03 8:55 AM



Hes successful because he provides reasonable meals and drinks at reasonable prices which seems to irritate you ... Your fellow hatey type has already again looked foolish on the thread with his Hollywood claim, maybe you can let us all in when your Hollywood "doubled in price" claim becomes reality and then I can tell my SIL who voted Remain as he enjoys the odd meal in a Wetherspoons ... You people

CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-03 9:09 AM



He's successful because he exploits his staff and suppliers.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-03 11:30 AM



Chuckle ... I dont recall anyone ever saying old Tim forced any of his staff to work at Wetherspoons ... As far as exploiting suppliers goes you have I presume heard of buying power, the larger and more successful a company becomes then that company can negotate better terms from their suppliers ... Its a bit like when you happily go to the supermarket to do your shopping rather than the corner shop and you pay less at the supermarket because they have better buying power, that of course as usual wont hypocritically bother ya ... Its obvious you hate him for no other reason than he voted leave ... Yuk

Barryd999 - 2021-06-04 1:45 PM

So it seems the news about the Lake District in dire trouble with staffing problems is of course true. 68% of businesses are struggling with staffing issues. My local news channel includes Cumbria and they just ran a piece on it and interviewed some local hoteliers. The main reason? Of course, Brexit! 50% of their staff come from the EU or at least they did. Many places are having to reduce opening times and in the case of hotels the number of rooms available. The are calling on the government to change their immigration policy. LOL. Good luck with that one.

It was always going to happen. I predicted exactly this way back because the Lake district relies on staff so much from the EU as its a large area with pretty much zero unemployment. Workers from other counties simply dont want to go and work there.

Bit more here. This report also cites other reasons but its clear from todays news and from the actual business owners that Brexit is to blame.

https://cumbriacrack.com/2021/06/04/scale-of-staff-recruitment-challenge-doubled-in-month-cumbria/

colin - 2021-06-04 5:44 PM

For too long the industry has relied on paying low wages for working long and unsocial hours, well those times are disappearing. Many where laid off and realised there where other opportunities out there and are not going back.

CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-04 7:46 PM



It's an industry that pays what it needs and can afford. If wages go up expect the price of a pint and pub lunch to follow.

But its also a industry that historically has provided employment to students from both here and abroad, even thirty years ago I worked in a bar whilst a student in a bar in Liverpool, I also spent a season working in a ski resort in France when I graduated before I started a proper job. The other side of that equation was the young Europeans working in the hospitality industry here. That path to cultural enrichment is now closed.

In the lake district the hospitality industry has always employed students, but there aren't enough to go around, so 40% of the staff were European. Not anymore. There is just 1% unemployment, it's a ageing population so any hope of filling these roles is fanciful. Hence the outcry from the industry.

CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-04 7:46 PM



It's an industry that pays what it needs and can afford. If wages go up expect the price of a pint and pub lunch to follow.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-04 7:42 PM

Im up at Ullswater kayaking tomorrow and then I do believe we are going to Penrith for a meal so hopefully I can update on staff shortages here, there and everywhere, just like in france and Germany which is ignored by the hate club ... Sad people ... I have yet to find anywhere where theres no one to pull that great British pint as the OP all Hollywood style claimed ... Chuckle

Barryd999 - 2021-06-04 9:21 PM



Yes me too! Of course just because you waltz into one place and there seems to be plenty of staff does not mean there isnt a problem which there clearly is as 68% of lakeland business owners say there is! Are they making it up?

Penrith is not typical either, its a working town on the M6 on the edge of the Lake District and the people working there are generally locals much more than in the heart of the Lake District. I had boats on Windermere and Ullswater for years and many friends there with businesses and all of them employed foreign workers because they really had no choice.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-05 5:15 AM



Its uncomfortable I know but I have waltzed into a lot more than just one place and had no issues ... I believe it was you or one of your fellow fairy tail story tellers that had to back track on Tim Martin the other day ... If you manage to look at staffing in hospitality without your hate goggles on then maybe you might see that because of covid and UK staycations all tourist areas are having a boom so demand is going to be unusually high, the same can be said of France and Germany who also have hospitality staffing issues which you choose to ignore ... The fella on here that originally posted the claim that there would be no one to pull that great British pint has been made to look rather foolish once again and you, him and the gang dont like folk like me pointing that out

Bulletguy - 2021-06-04 9:11 PM


It's always been poorly paid and Brexiteers blamed it on those funny foreigner folk for keeping the wages low. But now they've gone and aren't coming back, so now is their chance for people like Brexiteers champion Tim Witherspoon to pay a decent wage to British workers instead of wailing he now wants EU workers......that ship sailed and they aren't coming back.

Brexiteers will have to start paying more for their booze 'n food. After all.......it's what they voted for.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-06 7:08 AM

"No one to serve your great British pint" update ... We were expecting to go very hungry and very thirsty in Penrith given the well informed warning on here by the OP but to our pleasant surprise though busy because of the beautiful weather The Board and Elbow managed very well to pull pints and serve food with what sounded like English staff ... Hoping to get back the lakes for a few days in a couple of weeks and then we have a music festival so more updates on the desperate situation to follow

Barryd999 - 2021-06-06 9:26 AM



Like I said, Penrith is probably not so badly hit as its a large working town with a large (for Cumbria) "local" population. Did you go in any of the shops or bars? They will also be mainly staffed by locals, you can tell as they all have the same accent. (I can do a great Cumbrian accent by the way). The rest of the Lake District however is a different matter and you can deny there is a problem all you want but 68% of business owners say that there is.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-06 9:55 AM



I know you know best as always but just take a look at the Penrith wiki link, concentrate on the opening line about the economy ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrith,_Cumbria ... As for denying there is a problem, I havent ... I have simply offered what I have found out and about and that contradicts the OPs wild, Hollywood claim ... France and Germany seem to have a problem with hospitality workers n'all which you seem to want to ignore so I would "plead" with you as Brian puts it to look with "unbiased" Tory hate goggles and look at the bigger picture

Barryd999 - 2021-06-06 10:30 AM



Yes it says "As a small market town relying quite heavily on the tourist trade, Penrith benefits from a mix of some high street chain stores and many small local specialist shops. However, many shops have given way to businesses such as banks, building societies and travel agents."

Its still a working town with a population of 15000+ and very few foreign workers compared to other parts of the lake district. I practically had a second home there for years when I had a boat on Ullswater. I have lots of friends there so I know it well and the people. All the pubs, bars and hotels I used to frequent in the rest of the lake district were predominately staffed by Europeans. I think its something like 47% overall were European staff but in the areas away from the large towns like Penrith, Workington etc that percentage is or was much higher. Thats mainly where the issue now is and its mainly down to one thing, Brexit.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-06 11:07 AM



I think thats you accepting Penrith relies "heavily on the tourist trade" ... As for "practically" living in Penrith, my daughter did live in Penrith for 4 years so maybe there aint much you can tell me about the pubs and eating out spots ... You blame supposed staffing shortages here in Blighty on "one thing"' Brexit, does the same apply to France and Germanys hospitality staff shortages???

Barryd999 - 2021-06-06 11:40 AM



Ask your daughter then if she agrees with what I said regarding Penrith. I bet she does.

As for France and Germany, well according to your article you linked to it seems during lockdown a lot of workers in hospitality just found better jobs or had a rethink of professions. Thats potentially a double whammy for us then as if less foreign workers are wanting to work in hospitality and they cant come and work here anyway or dont want to due to our hostile environment that Brexit has created then it just makes the problem worse.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-06 2:19 PM



Not sure what your point is, you could argue that London, Liverpool, Leeds are all working cities yet they rely heavily on tourists or those visiting for the day ... Your France/Germany/hostile environment/Brexit comment is just silliness ... Its clear you want Brexit to be the issue here for supposed staff shortages and in blinkered Barry world everything gets blamed on the Tories and Brexit

Barryd999 - 2021-06-06 11:40 AM



Ask your daughter then if she agrees with what I said regarding Penrith. I bet she does.

Barryd999 - 2021-06-06 3:04 PM



Brexit is the issue here. Its all about geography with places like the lakes. They have next to zero unemployment but the jobs are in places that are too far for Brits to take them on and of course many of them are minimum wage. London, Liverpool and Leeds its not so much of an issue. If you go back through the Brexit wars threads you will find several from myself predicting this exact outcome for places like the Lake District. There will be other industry sectors and locations around the UK also effected.

So my point is, no Brexit no problem. Thats all there is to it.

Bulletguy - 2021-06-06 4:12 PM


Don't be daft....you know what his answer to that will be!

Back on topic though, were staff falling over themselves to serve you in various hostelries you imbibed and were they all speaking in their mother tongue, English? Apparently the latter is important to Antony for some strange reason he appears to believe foreign workers incapable of speaking English, where in reality they speak better English than he does and in some case will be multi-lingual.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-06 4:56 PM



Like I said previously you want Brexit to be the issue and your final comment confirms that "no Brexit no problem. Thats all there is to it" ... Pointless going on with ya, doesnt change the fact that where I have been there are plenty of folk to pull that "great British pint" regardless of the fairytale claim from the OP

Birdbrain - 2021-06-06 4:59 PM



Talking of fairytale claims from the threads OP, I dont recall ever claiming "foreign workers incapable of speaking English" ... BG goes to Hollywood, yet again

Barryd999 - 2021-06-06 5:08 PM



Ah I see, because you got served ok in Penrith which I already explained about there is no problem because of EU Staff shortages because of Brexit. 68% of Cumbrian business owners which is thousands by the way are simply making it up because they are anti Brexit like me. Glad we cleared that up.

Bulletguy - 2021-06-06 5:38 PM


Had you learned reading and writing at nursery you'd have understood the post but because you obviously lack the skill to comprehend basic English it's beyond you. You just make yourself look a very silly little boy attempting to twist fm's posts out of context.....you aren't clever enough to do that.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-06 6:12 PM



Seriously, whats wrong with you??? ... Concentrating just on the lakes in the past few weeks I have been served food and drinks in Penrith, Keswick, Pooley Bridge, Windermere, Derwent Water and Troutbeck Head with no issues ... I am posting up what I have experienced in those places in the lakes and you don't like that I am showing that the wild, Hollywood claim by the OP is just not true, maybe others have had different experiences???

Barryd999 - 2021-06-06 6:34 PM



Whats wrong with me?

Can you explain then why over two thirds of lake district business owners are desperately struggling with staff and why they are claiming its mainly because of Brexit? I bet they are all pesky remainers eh? Making it up. Jeez

Birdbrain - 2021-06-06 6:15 PM



I dont have to be "clever" to show others what youve posted or claimed on here as your posts are there for all to see in black and white ...

Bulletguy - 2021-06-06 7:46 PM


Yes my posts are on here for all to see hence the reason everyone can see you selectively quoted just six words from a sentence and tried spinning it so lets have a look at that sentence in full so we have the correct context.

"Apparently the latter is important to Antony for some strange reason he appears to believe foreign workers incapable of speaking English, where in reality they speak better English than he does and in some case will be multi-lingual."

Now, to help you further i've bolded the important words you left out which gives context to exactly what i'd written rather than the selectively edited version you attempted to spin but failed, as usual.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-06 8:38 PM



As said earlier I dont need to be "clever" and I now also dont need to "spin" your words to show what you said, you have done that rather nicely for me ... You are as usual making yaself look a tad silly but please feel free to carry on

Bulletguy - 2021-06-06 9:03 PM


I corrected you and put you straight so no need get the humph. I know you won't get over it as you never do.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-06 6:53 PM



Chuckle ... Barry ignores I have had no issues getting my "great British pint" and more in the lakes ... Now you seem to be a little confused as you now say lake district business are struggling to employ staff "mainly" because of that nasty Brexit yet only a couple of posts ago you said "no Brexit no problem. Thats all there is to it" ... So your THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT according to lakes business owners isnt actually true ... Like I said previously you want Brexit to be the problem and anything else just isnt Barry ... Hate on

Barryd999 - 2021-06-07 8:47 AM

Even Dim Tim Martin now realises that. The man that campaigned very publicly for a hard no deal Brexit and exit of the single market which of course ended the free movement of a lot of EU Bar staff now says he now backs a "reasonably liberal" immigration system. You couldnt make it up. I really hope he his hit hard in the wallet and I have no sympathy whatsoever for people like him.

Bulletguy - 2021-06-07 2:10 PM


Few Brexiteers can see his hypocrisy either. I've never been in one but apparently it's cheap prices? If so they'll have to start paying more for their pint if they want British bar staff.

Barryd999 - 2021-06-07 8:47 AM



Chuckle. Sounding a bid desperate now, I threw you a bit of a bone there eh? Yes covid may have played a small part but ultimately its down to Brexit. Even Dim Tim Martin now realises that. The man that campaigned very publicly for a hard no deal Brexit and exit of the single market which of course ended the free movement of a lot of EU Bar staff now says he now backs a "reasonably liberal" immigration system. You couldnt make it up. I really hope he his hit hard in the wallet and I have no sympathy whatsoever for people like him.

Barryd999 - 2021-06-07 2:49 PM



I went in one a couple of years back while out Christmas shopping in Darlington and waiting for my wife. Got bored so braved the local Brexit HQ Wetherpoons. They even had Brexit beer mats! It was grim. Full of red faced angry looking blokes. I just pretended to look all grumpy and Brexity although I almost ordered a Gin and Tonic which would have been a fatal mistake.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-07 6:53 PM



The fella who lives on fish and chips and kebabs gets all snooty about Wetherspoon pubs ... Dear oh dear

Barryd999 - 2021-06-08 9:40 AM



I dont think I have had a Kebab for maybe five years and certainly not in the UK. I do like the occasional bit of Fish from our award winning chippy though.

As for you comments above re Covid, clutching at straws springs to mind. Just admit it, here we have a prime example of exactly what damage ending free movement of people has done. Why else would Dim Tim now be crying and whinging on about a "Liberal immigration policy" after he campaigned so hard for the exact opposite?

Birdbrain - 2021-06-08 7:06 PM



Eh ... Dont you go travelling for 6 months of the year, every year, mainly to Flamborough and when your in said Flamborough you do seem to frequent the local fish and chip shops rather a lot??? ... You seem to have some fixation with "DimTim" that successful multi-millionaire businessman for some reason

Barryd999 - 2021-06-08 9:20 PM



I think I did ask earlier up the thread how somebody who comes across as thick as mince has been so successful. Exploiting staff and suppliers was one suggestion.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-09 6:04 AM



Well lets remember according to you all Brexit voters are thick so "Dim Tim" wont escape your insults will he ... As for "Exploiting" his staff almost a third of his 40.000 staff are shareholders in his company, staff have a free meal and drink if they work more than 6 hours and his company has won the top employee award many times ... Maybe you can explain where the "Exploiting" bit comes in or is it just your usual bitterness leaking through???

CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-09 9:56 AM

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-9190431/Cheers-Wetherspoons-boss-Tim-Martin-cashes-50m-shares.html&ved=2ahUKEwjWm-qolorxAhUPmxQKHaLLBfwQFjAVegQIIxAC&usg=AOvVaw1zqjwrU0LMzMLeD1hFMMLO&cshid=1623228914388

Barryd999 - 2021-06-09 10:16 AM



It wasnt me who suggested he was exploiting workers and suppliers. Didnt he refuse to pay his staff and tell them all to go work at Tescos or something?

Can you show me where I have said "All Brexit voters are thick" please? I suspect you cant although to be fair if you were thick, chances are you voted for Brexit.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-14 7:14 PM

Quick update on the OPs original claim ... Missus went out for lunch and had no issues ... Again

Bulletguy - 2021-06-14 7:22 PM


Prove it.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-14 7:39 PM



That comes across as very angry ... Do you have a mobile number.......

Bulletguy - 2021-06-14 8:05 PM


No I expect proof but you don't have any do you? You're just making it up.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-14 8:15 PM



Mmm ... I have just explained to you how we can go about that but you dont like it ...

Bulletguy - 2021-06-14 8:52 PM


You don't need anyones phone number to post video evidence of lots of bar staff all lined up ready and waiting as your wife walks in. You can post it on any sm platform.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-15 5:55 AM



Theres only you asking for evidence princess and I dont know how to post videos up off my phone so stop stalling ... Your squirming and its an uncomfortable sight and I like how youve gone all Hollywood all of a sudden with "lots of bar staff lined up ready", chuckle rather than just the normal bar staff ... Mobile number please

Barryd999 - 2021-06-15 7:56 AM

We already have the evidence from 67% of Cumbrian business owners. Perhaps some might be disgruntled Remainers eh? Although five out of six regions in Cumbria voted to leave amazingly. However because Mr Birdbrain and his family managed to get a burger and a pint of Sheeps Droppings Ale from a town on the outskirts of the lake district they must be making it all up then.

Bulletguy - 2021-06-15 2:22 PM


Listen up puffball......you're well capable of trawling Twitter for far right extremist bile you've posted in the past so don't give me that nonsense. You're always demanding "proof" from other fm's for everything but the minute the boots on the other foot you're crying every excuse in the book.

Birdbrain - 2021-06-15 7:15 PM



Mmmm ... I had a diet coke actually so as usual your wrong ... I have posted up the other places I have been served food and drinks with no issue since the lifting of lockdown princess, not just Penrith... I was initially responding to the OPs original hate posting where he claimed all the waiters have gone and theres no one to pull that great British pint, I have shown in my experience that simply is not true and you and him dont like it ... Thats for you and him, given time to get over ... Hate on

Barryd999 - 2021-06-16 11:51 AM



Its not that I dont like it, that would be absurd. Its just that your handful of experiences in certain towns does not disprove the claim from thousands (over two thirds) of business owners in Cumbria that there is a huge problem.

CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-18 6:07 PM


I bet this link will have Tweetiepie screaming how he saw a lorry only yesterday so this is all rubbish.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9682931/Lorry-driver-shortage-Brexit-Covid-sparks-calls-military-standby.html

Birdbrain - 2021-06-18 7:05 PM



Chuckle ... You telling me I will find a Daily Mail link "all rubbish" and you dont??? ... Chuckle ... Hypocrisy lives ... I will be out kayaking at Penrith tomorrow so will with the family be eating out later so I can update on the OPs wild, Hollywood claim ... Hate on

CurtainRaiser - 2021-06-21 12:48 AM

colin - 2021-06-22 1:37 PM

For the first time ever we've seen a restaurant closed due to a 'staffing crisis', still the fish and chip shop was doing well.

Birdbrain - 2021-07-03 5:00 PM

Away to Ripon for a few days tomorrow and then to Scarbados so will update on the scandal that is "all the waiters have gone" and theres "no one to pull your great British pint" ... Chuckle ... Missus went for a meal last night also with a friend with you'll be glad to hear no issues at all ... Im beginning to think the OPs hatey claim is fake news

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-03 6:02 PM



So apart from your little anecdotes, care to provide a link to ANY professional study that says all is well in the hospitality sector.

Birdbrain - 2021-07-03 6:21 PM



Oh Lordy thats funny ... Why do I need "ANY professional study" to show me in my experience that "all the waiters" havent gone and I most certainly can get served a "great British pint"??? ... BTW all is not well in some of the European hospitality sector and I aint thinking that has owt to do with Brexit sweet cheeks, unless you can show ... Chuckle away funboy

pelmetman - 2021-07-03 7:51 PM



I've not been ..........

But I understand the pubs in Weymouth are heaving ............

Perhaps they are all waiting to be served? ..........

Birdbrain - 2021-07-03 6:21 PM



Oh Lordy thats funny ... Why do I need "ANY professional study" to show me in my experience that "all the waiters" havent gone and I most certainly can get served a "great British pint"??? ... BTW all is not well in some of the European hospitality sector and I aint thinking that has owt to do with Brexit sweet cheeks, unless you can show ... Chuckle away funboy

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-03 9:24 PM



So the original post quoted experts that disagree with your experience, tell me do you listen to your doctor or does the fact your not coughing up blood this minute mean you ignore them.

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-03 9:24 PM



So the original post quoted experts that disagree with your experience, tell me do you listen to your doctor or does the fact your not coughing up blood this minute mean you ignore them.

Birdbrain - 2021-07-09 6:20 PM

One has to ask ... Given the OPs utter guff lying claim who's going to be serving those Ingerland fans there great British pints on Sunday??? ... If the OP, who aint known for pumping the truth is correct then theres guna be dry riots ... Lordy

CurtainRaiser - 2021-07-09 6:51 PM



And yet all the industry bodies disagree with you?

https://www.bighospitality.co.uk/Article/2021/06/18/UkHospitality-publishes-comprehensive-plan-to-tackle-hospitality-staff-shortages

https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2021/06/hospitality-faces-growing-staff-shortage-crisis/

https://www.thespiritsbusiness.com/2021/06/post-brexit-woes-to-intensify-hospitality-staff-shortage/

https://www.thecaterer.com/news/hospitality-staff-shortage-restaurants-unable-open

Birdbrain - 2021-07-09 7:20 PM



Yes ... The French who also obviously voted for Brexit are also struggling https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210507-french-restaurants-struggle-to-fill-jobs-lost-in-lockdown while the Germans who also obviously voted for Brexit now regret voting that way https://www.ft.com/content/d35e0ecf-417d-4d57-a075-74c2d4ddcbb8 ... Note to princess and his hate monkey organ Grindr, try getting out and actually seeing the fake news you spread is just hate lies ... Stop Funding Hate

Barryd999 - 2021-07-10 9:42 AM



The difference is those people in France and Germany have just moved on and decided they can do better out of that industry. That kind of highlights the major problem we have here. Its even less likely Brits will do these jobs now that there is no easy way to get European staff because firstly they never wanted to do them in the first place or it was geographically difficult and maybe those that did also found better jobs during the pandemic. So we have a double whammy here. Shortage of EU workers and even less Brits wanting to do the work.

Never mind. Hows that trade deal with India coming along? If it includes free movement Wetherspoons can fill its pubs with Indians. That will go down well with the usual clientele.