Cost Of food

[michele]

Who does Politics I have never understood it .

can some one explain why everything has gone up and where all our money is going and why things are so exspensive ?

[malc d]

michele - 2008-07-26 2:27 PM

 

Who does Politics I have never understood it .

can some one explain why everything has gone up and where all our money is going and why things are so exspensive ?

 

 

When the price of oil goes up, the cost of delivering food by truck (or ship or plane) goes up.

The transport companies therefore pass on the extra charges to the food companies and shops, and they pass it on to you and me by increasing the cost of food.

 

(People then get used to the idea that everything is going up, the media tells us every day that everything is going up, so everyone else 'gets on the band wagon' and increase their prices).

 

 

;-) ;-)

[michele]

Thats the simple version for a simple person I think I am getting it .

 

Hubby said the Man brown keeps spending the money ..

Every sat I always by a lump of Rib Eye Steak its shot from 7/£8 to £13.79 now I dont mind them putting on a £ or two but thats doubled .

Bread i notice has shot up as well actually it all has .I wonder do people think thats because we dont support our own farmers and produce growers like say France . A ir miles and all that do you think we deserve it

 

[bootbags]

Then all the people who have enjoyed a low rate of inflation for a while and have used their credit cards to the maximum to obtain all the 'must' haves decide that they are not earning enough and their money is not going far enough but they still want all the luxuries, start making demands of their employers for more money -  that is when things start to spiral out of control. That is when governments start making unpopular decisions and think up ways of curbing expenditure by cutting back on essential services. In fact it is millions of individuals that could make even small changes to their spending by buying less and in so doing take away from the companies providing the services, their revenue would be less, the governments income from their revenues (VAT & Taxes etc) would be less and they would have to have a re-think. Well something like that anyway!

[bootbags]

Sorry, my post should have followed this. Michele got in between. I was too long winded

malc d - 2008-07-26 2:43 PM

michele - 2008-07-26 2:27 PM Who does Politics I have never understood it . can some one explain why everything has gone up and where all our money is going and why things are so exspensive ?

When the price of oil goes up, the cost of delivering food by truck (or ship or plane) goes up. The transport companies therefore pass on the extra charges to the food companies and shops, and they pass it on to you and me by increasing the cost of food. (People then get used to the idea that everything is going up, the media tells us every day that everything is going up, so everyone else 'gets on the band wagon' and increase their prices). ;-) ;-)

[bootbags]

michele - 2008-07-26 2:46 PM Thats the simple version for a simple person I think I am getting it . Hubby said the Man brown keeps spending the money .. Every sat I always by a lump of Rib Eye Steak its shot from 7/£8 to £13.79 now I dont mind them putting on a £ or two but thats doubled . Bread i notice has shot up as well actually it all has .I wonder do people think thats because we dont support our own farmers and produce growers like say France . A ir miles and all that do you think we deserve it

If you haven't yet watched it on a Tuesday, Jimmy Doherty's Farming Heroes BBC2 @ 9pm - says it all about growing some of our own food. Great programme!

[malc d]

michele - 2008-07-26 2:46 PM

 

Thats the simple version for a simple person I think I am getting it .

 

Hubby said the Man brown keeps spending the money ..

Every sat I always by a lump of Rib Eye Steak its shot from 7/£8 to £13.79 now I dont mind them putting on a £ or two but thats doubled .

Bread i notice has shot up as well actually it all has .I wonder do people think thats because we dont support our own farmers and produce growers like say France . A ir miles and all that do you think we deserve it

 

 

Hubby is right.

But, if the man Brown wasn't spending all the money, someone else in the government would be. (Even if it was a different government).

 

I assume that the increases in the price of bread are caused by the fact that crops are now increasingly being grown to go into 'Bio - fuels' which are an alternative to oil ( which is getting too expensive).

If less wheat is grown for food it creates shortages, and so the price goes up.

 

 

 

Likewise, the cost of feeding animals goes up - so you pay more for your meat.

 

 

:-( :-( :-(

[bootbags]

So, you are in charge of the government - as from Monday. What would you do to address the balance?

malc d - 2008-07-26 3:04 PM

michele - 2008-07-26 2:46 PM Thats the simple version for a simple person I think I am getting it . Hubby said the Man brown keeps spending the money .. Every sat I always by a lump of Rib Eye Steak its shot from 7/£8 to £13.79 now I dont mind them putting on a £ or two but thats doubled . Bread i notice has shot up as well actually it all has .I wonder do people think thats because we dont support our own farmers and produce growers like say France . A ir miles and all that do you think we deserve it

Hubby is right. But, if the man Brown wasn't spending all the money, someone else in the government would be. (Even if it was a different government). I assume that the increases in the price of bread are caused by the fact that crops are now increasingly being grown to go into 'Bio - fuels' which are an alternative to oil ( which is getting too expensive). If less wheat is grown for food it creates shortages, and so the price goes up. Likewise, the cost of feeding animals goes up - so you pay more for your meat. :-( :-( :-(

[michele]

I think I would make every foreigner pay for our NHS service and put the money back into it giving a better service for all .

I would make chain gangs and make them sleep in tent city with no privledges no softly softly approach that would cut down on prison costs if they run shoot them.

I would make it that we had in every town our own farmers markets and it would be compulsary to by from and support them especially our ouw home grown products apples and stuff no Air miles.

thats just for starters zero tollerance on violence tent city hard labour straight away .

that way they wouldnt want to go back work from 5 am till 10 at night doing digging on the motorways or something as hard :D

[malc d]

michele - 2008-07-26 3:26 PM

 

I think I would make every foreigner pay for our NHS service and put the money back into it giving a better service for all .

I would make chain gangs and make them sleep in tent city with no privledges no softly softly approach that would cut down on prison costs if they run shoot them.

I would make it that we had in every town our own farmers markets and it would be compulsary to by from and support them especially our ouw home grown products apples and stuff no Air miles.

thats just for starters zero tollerance on violence tent city hard labour straight away .

that way they wouldnt want to go back work from 5 am till 10 at night doing digging on the motorways or something as hard :D

 

 

 

Stop it Michelle - you're scaring me ;-) ;-)

[bootbags]

Come on Malc, don't be scared - seriously - what would you do - that is sensible and feasible?

[malc d]

bootbags - 2008-07-26 5:02 PM

 

Come on Malc, don't be scared - seriously - what would you do - that is sensible and feasible?

 

 

There's no easy answer.

 

I should think there is a case for 'transferring' taxes; e.g. take some tax off fuel and put it on drink ( a non-essential commodity ).

 

Private sector pay rises come out of profits - when the public sector claim a rise ( and there is no reason why they shouldn't ) they should be required to suggest where the money is to come from.

 

If you make credit too easily available prices go up, a good example being easily available mortgages having pushed up house prices. So there should be more controls on credit.

 

 

I don't think rocket science is needed, just a bit of leadership.

 

I'm just glad I'm not a politician - and not saddled with supporting any particular party.

 

 

 

:-(

[bootbags]

Our current leader was the Chancellor of the Exchequer - now he is having to clear up the mess that he caused in the first place. Not ALL of his doing admittedly, but somewhere along the line he could not have had his finger on the pulse.

Perhaps we had all better get out our little stools and go to Speakers Corner! All we can do, is live our lives as decently as we can, help out where we can to those needing help and leave some happy memories for those left behind when it is our time to depart the planet!

[Mick H.]

bootbags - 2008-07-26 2:57 PM

 

Then all the people who have enjoyed a low rate of inflation for a while and have used their credit cards to the maximum to obtain all the 'must' haves decide that they are not earning enough and their money is not going far enough but they still want all the luxuries, start making demands of their employers for more money -  that is when things start to spiral out of control. That is when governments start making unpopular decisions and think up ways of curbing expenditure by cutting back on essential services. In fact it is millions of individuals that could make even small changes to their spending by buying less and in so doing take away from the companies providing the services, their revenue would be less, the governments income from their revenues (VAT & Taxes etc) would be less and they would have to have a re-think. Well something like that anyway!

 

Yea Probably charge £400-00 a day to take a large vehicle into London instead of £200-00. I say large but it's down to 3.5 tonnes now.Can't see how they get AWAY WITH IT.

[malc d]

bootbags - 2008-07-26 6:10 PM

Our current leader was the Chancellor of the Exchequer - now he is having to clear up the mess that he caused in the first place. Not ALL of his doing admittedly, but somewhere along the line he could not have had his finger on the pulse.

Perhaps we had all better get out our little stools and go to Speakers Corner! All we can do, is live our lives as decently as we can, help out where we can to those needing help and leave some happy memories for those left behind when it is our time to depart the planet!

Not quite sure which 'mess' you are referring to.I blame the banks for the fact that they have been lending money irresponsibly. ( I doubt if it affected the managements bonuses).The price of oil I blame on the increase in world consumption which is also being 'manipulated' by speculators.The loss of confidential files from government departments I blame on incompetent civil servants. ( But I doubt if that will affect their eventual knighthoods).It's true that the government maybe should have seen some of these things going wrong but the fact is that people who have been paid to take responsibility for these things have not been doing their jobs properly.( +Northern Rock was the managements fault)....and as for people who borrow much more than they can afford....whose fault is that ? ;-)

[bootbags]

I am not even sure myself  now which mess I am thinking of, probably as chancellor, fighting to keep with governments  targets on inflation rate, the bank of england interest rates being forced down(I know the bank is supposed to be independant - but!!! which in turn encouraged people to overstretch themselves with loans and high mortgages beyond their means and the mortgage companies (as in N Rock) allowing far in excess of x's earnings. So one could say it was the mess of number crunching to show low inflation and that was down to the C of the Ex at the time, Brown.

[chatterdog]

what did for northern rock was the over large amount invested in american subprime loans to the american people who couldnt get loans from their own banks. I wonder why that was then. Part of this countries problems is that the present goverment has also sold off our reserves not only our oil/gas but also what gold we had. Things go belly up very quickly and especially now because this countrys goverment need to borrow money to balance the books. Yet in the next instance on one of his carbon producing jaunts around the globe Mr Brown promices 30 million to palestine. Where exactly is that money coming from?

Home grown meat and produce is usually dearer to buy than imported goods but it is not the farmer that is making a profit. In some cases the farmer makes a loss or just breaks even on crops and milk and he is the one putting the effort in.

[michele]

Still one for thinking that we should support our own .

nothing like walking the markets in France where all the prduce is fresh home grown and you can by all sorts of things .

Its so nice to see its nice also the way they eat fresh fish .

What a shame we dont do more farmers markets pickles jams fresh eggs .

Just a shame.

I love to walk along and pick up a bit of lettuce beatrroot toamtoes garlic purple ...just so nce and the way its laid out . i know this wont solve our problems but I believe that its begins at home ,

[Basil]

First thing I would do is heavily tax foriegn lorries using our roads, that would help to equal out the fuel inbalance. Easily done as they all have to come in through one of the ports or the tunnel, they do it in Austria and Switzerland so why do we have such an aversion to doing it. It would also bring us into line with foriegn taxes (tolls etc.) placed on our lorries abroad.

This could also have the benificial effect of reducing our overloaded road system and hopefully remove some of the lorries from the road. It could also make more work for our lorry industry, however I would rather see goods being transported by rail and then distributed in smaller more efficient vehicles from existing 'Hub' depots.

 

Move all road taxation onto petrol/ diesel then there can be no one getting away without paying and those who use the most would pay the most.

 

Although a bit late reintroduce the Energy Policy torn up by Margaret Thatcher so that she could break the Coal Miners. It is a bit late because it was designed to conserve energy (yes all those years ago) and keep our oil and gas supplies for our own benefit however it would help to conserve what we have left and refocus what energy should be used for what purpose. So far our resources have been squandered.

 

Stop paying farmers to grow nothing only pay for fields that are used and tax those that aren't.

 

Stop all grants and outside aid to other countries until our own mess is sorted out.

 

Just some of the things I would do, there are many many more.

 

Bas

[bootbags]

Basil, can we put your name forward as a candidate for the 'Sensible thinking Party'?