Porky Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 There has been some discussion recently with reference to spare wheels and lack of. Has anyone had any experience with the Tyron bands which Kwick Fit now advertise and fit? Also it seems to me if it is combined with the Tyresure tyre pressure sensors it should be a good monitor and get you to the nearest place to get the tyre changed. Any thoughts or experience. Porky especially well fed and happy after christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klyne Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Tend to associate Tyron Bands more with caravans rather than motorhomes. I have had them fitted to all my recent caravans. The reasoning about fitting them to caravan, especially single axle ones is that with only 2 wheels to support the van on the road anything that helps if you have a blowout, particularly as caravan tyres are more likely to come off the rim and cause substantial instability compared to a 4 wheel vehicle. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJH Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 We had Tyron bands fitted to our van after seeing the demonstration video and reading up about them. I can say that they make no difference to the handling of the van at all. Never found out in practice what happens if you do get a blowout - and don't wish to thanks very much :D Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Collings Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 The big point about the Tyron band is it fills the well in the wheel rim that allows the tyre to be fitted and removed. As long as the tyre stay on the rim a fair measure of control is retained. I went to Tyrons demonstration at Silverstone a few years back. Very impressive. They had S type Jag euipped with the bands and a flat front tyre doing emergency J turns ( reversing at high speed, flicking on hard lock while at the same time braking hard so the car does a180 degree turn to face the opposite direction.) The flat tyre stayed on the rim. A Tyron LDV minibus was running people around all day with a flat tyre and even the though the rim had cut tyre to shreds, it stayed on the rim. The ability to retain control and drive slowly to a safe place is a major consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 Thanks for the response, which seems to be very favourable. In fact it would suggest that they allow the vehicle to be driven to a place of safety even with a seriously damaged tyre and that must surely be worth the cost. Why then are they not more widely used or their benefits appreciated? I have no association with Tyron or Quick Fit but I do put safety at the top of my list and it will be interesting to see just how much further response there will be in support or otherwise compared to the activity on some other threads. Porky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coachman Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Last year in Reims towing a caravan we had a sidewall blowout on a almost new tyre, the caravan "crabbed" and before i came to stop the alloy wheel was u/s, and thats with Tyron bands. :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 The liquid additive to tyres also helps reduce the effect of a puncture...think its a lot cheaper then the bands at approx £60 to £70. For the life of me can't remember the name and I had it done last year *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel E Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 We have had tyre sealant in our motorhome tyres from new and we no longer carry a spare except in faraway places where replacing a tyre may be a problem. Google 'Tyre selant' selecting the UK Only option and you'll gets lots of into and places to go. Typical cost seems to be around £30+ for a 4-wheel motorhome. We have had no problems in 24,000 miles of motoring. One important point: because, with a pre-puncture sealant the tyre does not deflate (they reckon tests up to 80+mph over 40,000 miles show how safe it is), it is vital to check the surface of each tyre regularly, preferably before each journey. The danger is that a nail or screw in the tyre could do further damage which could even lead to a blow-out. Discovered quickly, however, it is likely that the tyre will be repairable. Mel E ==== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cronkle Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 We went the Ultraseal/Punctureseal route as well, as when we were considering options there was a lot of comments on various lists about tyre fitters not wanting the job of changing tyres with tyron bands fitted. How true this was I do not know. Also, having seen clips of how these gunges work I was convinced of their effectiveness. You have, however, reminded me to give the van tyres the once over this week-end to check for nails and screws etc. The stuff also seems to have cured a 'slow' that I had been keeping an eye on since we had bought the van. Its not that our van has not got a spare wheel, more that I do not fancy trying to change a wheel on the sort of hard shoulders that they have on continental motorways. The 'carry on driving' solution was why I considered both options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenewellhome Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Considering the difficulty of changing some motorhome wheels I'd say the puncture seal/ultraseal route is a wise investment. Servicing a motorhome the other day (Moncayo I think it was, Spanish built with Italian electrics 8-) 8-) ) it took me 20 minutes to remove each of the rear wheels and this was with the use of a lift and air gun. To remove each wheel I had to over inflate the air suspension assisters then deflate the side opposite the wheel I wanted to remove (the system fitted to this vehicle has a built in compressor that inflates both sides simultaneously but you can deflate individually). Raise the axle to maximum height which gave about three inches clearance. Deflate the tyre completely. Remove wheel bolts and push the bottom of the wheel under the axle then slide the wheel out. Refitting was a reversal of this procedure including having to re-inflate the tyre to 60 psi, not difficult with a workshop sized air compressor but I reckon a 12 volt type would probably expire before it got there. I'd sure hate to have to do that on a dark, windy, wet and miserable night on the side of a road! Also the spare wheel was carried so far under the rear of the vehicle as to make it near impossible to remove without first jacking the vehicle up and then having the muscles of Hercules to drag it out. D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 ! Have a sensible motorhome. 2 Carry a full spec spare. If you call out the emergency services with a wrecked tyre they will penalise you considerably if you dont have a serviceable spare. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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