Corky 8 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Pricing around for a new tyre to put on my new spare wheel, I was looking for one to match those already on the Motorhome,( yes the one that Judders) the prices I was being quoted for a Michelin 225/75/16CP 116Q were between £165 to £175 each, I found this web site French/Dutch who offered the same tyre at £110 including vat and Delivery, which I thought was good, I ordered it on Tuesday 4th on-line and it came on Friday 8th in the afternoon , hope it of some help to those needing tyres. Nb. they are of 2006 manufacture, they are even cheaper now if you care to check. http://www.pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyre/MICHELIN/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 the cheapest i found for the new version of those tyres was a Costco..........just incase anyones interested :$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hymer1942 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 So I take it these XC tyres are more expensive than the new Michelin Agilas??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Dwight Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Yes Barrie they are. I can get aguillis down here for around £110 David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky 8 Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 David Dwight - 2009-05-10 5:19 PM Yes Barrie they are. I can get aguillis down here for around £110 David. Good Grief, here's me thinking I,d got a bargain for a change, even my dealer was going to charge me £175 for the tyre , I have not been able to find anything cheaper on the Internet , Sorry about that folks not having a good spell lately Wrong yet again, thanks to those who answered Corky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Dennis - I think the Agilis is Michelin's replacement for the XC Camping tyre. When I had an unrepairable puncture in a van tyre a year or so ago I got two new Agilis from my local tyre man and he took the new XC spare in p/x as he knew he could easily sell it (the other part worn XC went onto the spare). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky 8 Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 Tracker - 2009-05-10 5:49 PM Dennis - I think the Agilis is Michelin's replacement for the XC Camping tyre. When I had an unrepairable puncture in a van tyre a year or so ago I got two new Agilis from my local tyre man and he took the new XC spare in p/x as he knew he could easily sell it (the other part worn XC went onto the spare). Thanks for that Rich, I,d seen Agilis advertised, but even dearer and I didnt want to mix tyres should the case arise so stuck with the XC Camping which is already fitted to the van,is the tyre life ( 5 year change ) of the Agilis the same as the XC Camping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Michelin's XC Camping tyre-pattern was superseded not too long ago by "Agilis Camping". The latter is M+S marked and - according to received wisdom - has far superior wet weather performance. (XC Camping came out very badly in comparative tests carried out by a German motorhome magazine. "Agilis" (without the "Camping" suffix) is the name Michelin uses for its current common-or-garden range of 'van' tyres and it's important to distinguish between "Agilis" and "Agilis Camping" when making price comparisons. To confuse matters further, the present "Agilis" range superseded earlier "Agilis"-branded tyres that had a suffix indicating the tyre's Ply Rating (eg. Agilis 41, 51, 61, 81 and 101 were respectively 4PR, 5PR, 6PR, 8PR or 10PR ranges of tyres). I'm very surprised that tyres manufactured in 2006 are being marketed, as I'm pretty sure that the tyre trade normally recommends a significantly shorter 'shelf life' for a tyre than that (1 year?). Might be worth asking Michelin to comment on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enodreven Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Hi, On another thread someone suggested this link for a competertive price on Tyres http://www.event-tyres.co.uk/quotation/index.php hope that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhorsf Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 blackcircles at http://www.blackcircles.com/ is usually competitive but you are better to ring and ask what is available to get the best price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 see on this link http://www.pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyre/MICHELIN/AGILIS,CAMPING/ whats the difference between the 2 215/75r16 tyres? One says 113, the other 116.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhorsf Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 handyman - 2009-05-10 7:43 PM see on this link http://www.pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyre/MICHELIN/AGILIS,CAMPING/ whats the difference between the 2 215/75r16 tyres? One says 113, the other 116.............. look here http://www.pneus-online.co.uk/load-and-speed-indexes-advice.html explains it better than i can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 nice one, you learn something every day. So the more expensive ones can handle 100kg more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enodreven Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Hi, I can't see 2 - 215/75 tyres on the link, it shows me 4 types of tyres 195/75 @ £108 215/75 @ £134 225/65 @ £133 225/75 @ £158 is the link correct handyman - 2009-05-10 7:43 PM see on this link http://www.pneus-online.co.uk/car-tyre/MICHELIN/AGILIS,CAMPING/ whats the difference between the 2 215/75r16 tyres? One says 113, the other 116.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 in that case, would it make any sense to have the higher load tyres on the back, and the lower load ones on the front........saving £50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhorsf Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 basically higher load index means more weight due to stronger tyres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 braunston - 2009-05-10 8:16 PM Hi, I can't see 2 - 215/75 tyres on the link, it shows me 4 types of tyres 195/75 @ £108 215/75 @ £134 225/65 @ £133 225/75 @ £158 is the link correct I need new glasses (lol) :$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky 8 Posted May 10, 2009 Author Share Posted May 10, 2009 Derek Uzzell - 2009-05-10 7:00 PM Michelin's XC Camping tyre-pattern was superseded not too long ago by "Agilis Camping". The latter is M+S marked and - according to received wisdom - has far superior wet weather performance. (XC Camping came out very badly in comparative tests carried out by a German motorhome magazine. "Agilis" (without the "Camping" suffix) is the name Michelin uses for its current common-or-garden range of 'van' tyres and it's important to distinguish between "Agilis" and "Agilis Camping" when making price comparisons. To confuse matters further, the present "Agilis" range superseded earlier "Agilis"-branded tyres that had a suffix indicating the tyre's Ply Rating (eg. Agilis 41, 51, 61, 81 and 101 were respectively 4PR, 5PR, 6PR, 8PR or 10PR ranges of tyres). I'm very surprised that tyres manufactured in 2006 are being marketed, as I'm pretty sure that the tyre trade normally recommends a significantly shorter 'shelf life' for a tyre than that (1 year?). Might be worth asking Michelin to comment on this. Thanks Derek , very informative ,have wrote it down for future guide ,the ply guide very handy info too, as you suggested I have already emailed Michelin for qualification of shelf life of a tyre, and life term there after, Much obliged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhorsf Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 you may find this interesting http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html tells you about 6 year shelf life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasmineAnders Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Has anybody joined this new Tyron Assist Emergency Puncture and Blow-0ut service- and had chance to use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 jhorsf Thanks for the link to the carbibles website - this should provide adequate answers to many tyre-related questions asked on motorhome forums. It will be interesting to learn Michelin's opinion on shelf life - I think I've read 12 months and 24 months quoted as maxima, but never 6 years. The tyre supplier I normally use was complaining recently about an increasing number of recently manufactured tyres showing evidence of rough-and-ready warehouse storage, a potential hazard that one might expect to affect particularly tyres that remain in storage over an extended period of time. It may also be worth highlighting that the carbibles site's advice seems to be that a tyre should be considered to have a 6 year lifespan, irrespective of whether it is stored or in use. On that basis a tyre made in 2006, but not fitted to a vehicle until 2009, will already have reached middle age when it starts to earn its living on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolandrat Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I have just bought a new Continental Vanco Camp 215 70 15CT1R from National Tyres for £125 including fitting and balancing. Two years ago they were £93.80 and I thought I was being ripped off. The prices you lads are mentioning seem way over the top to me as continental are the same as michelin, try shopping around to see if you can find a cheaper supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhorsf Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Derek the carbibles site has loads of info explained in a non technical way on most aspects of motoring check out http://www.carbibles.com for interesting info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enodreven Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Hi, I have looked at the load ratings on most of the major tyre manufacturers specifications and it seems very difficult to understand/identify the difference between those that make a camping variant and their normal van tyre. Does anyone know the reason for using the camping variant tyres rather than a none camping variant tyre. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolandrat Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 The camping tyre sidewall is slightly thicker to prevent it from cracking but I know from experience that it isn't the case. An IH that I once owned developed severe sidewall cracking on Michelin camper tyres yet my last Merc on normal commercial van tyres never suffered at all so I'll keep my eyes on this latest Fiat which is fitted with the Vanco-8 CT type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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