Brian Peters Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 hi all, sorry about the same message twice, hit the wrong key. anyway to the point, i want to purchase a reverse bulb with built in buzzer to warn people of my intention to reverse. I found them on the internet at £2.99 and its just a simple bulb swop, but the post and packing was a huge £8.30, how can people justify this postage on a very light object, that makes it over £11.00. Does anyone know where i can get one cheaper? Thanks. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 How about good old EBay? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Reverse-beeper-bleeper-WARNING-ALARM-BUZZER-BULB-12v_W0QQitemZ140327153184QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item20ac266e20&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1683%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50 Regards Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianR Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Brian Peters - 2009-07-11 4:36 PM but the post and packing was a huge £8.30, how can people justify this postage on a very light object, that makes it over £11.00. Thanks. Brian It is an e-bay ploy. Since the seller pays e-bay commison on the sales value but not on the p&p value, they inflate the latter to enable them to reduce the selling price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianR Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 I should also have mentioned that, unless the law has been changed recently, the use of such warning methods is illegal at night, so you need some way to turn them off at night - or never reverse at night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 They are illegal anyway! UK Construction and Use regulations allows the fitting of reversing alarms to Commercial vehicles over 2 tonne gross weight, passenger vehicles with 9 or more seats, engineering plant and works trucks. The time restriction of use is the same as that applicable to sounding your horn in built up areas at night. Anything taxed any form of "Private" is not classed as a commercial vehicle. Get a camera. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenewellhome Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 But is it a bad idea to warn others of your intention to reverse? As for P&P charges, you have to take into consideration the time and materials to package and take to the post office etc. Not always £8 worth but then what price safety? D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 What always worries me about using a reversing alarm is that drivers frequently act as if it gives them the right to reverse without being totally sure its clear behind. There are a lot of deaf people around, especially those with headsets and Ipods! Some of the biggest culprits are people in shopping centres on mobility scooters that cannot turn their heads to look behind, just bleep and hope! This is why I do not advocate them. Camera is best. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly58 Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 What reversing camera's on mobility scooters that will be a 1st . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chapman Posted July 12, 2009 Share Posted July 12, 2009 This has been discussed and reported on in detail previously. Do a search on "Reversing Signal" Posted by "malc d" all postings. Regards, Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthmover Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Hi Brian, J & M Goods at any of the shows £3-00, plus entry fee to the show. Some of these guys want to get real, the beep from one of these bulbs is hardly Big Ben, illegal who cares as long as it serves a purpose. Do as I have fit one and a reversing camera. One word of warning though, if your M/H electrical system is canbus, the replacement bulb must be exactly the same as you take out, 12vX21Watt?? or it could send the system haywire?. Em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianR Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Some of us prefer to obey the law. Just think what life would be like if everyone decided which laws they were going to obey. I would rather live in a law abiding society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelling Tyke Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Isn't the law only applicable on the public road? Would not a beeper be a useful extra whilst reversing on a camp site? A switchable beeper will add to my Yorkshire "belts and braces" attitude. It's just one of my round tooit Jobs. It will be on a separate circuit to the reversing lights and used at my discretion. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted July 13, 2009 Share Posted July 13, 2009 Strange. I was looking at them on the intranet at the weekend. The ones that took my eye were advertised as suitable for SUVs. No mention of motorhomes. Good job I didn't buy in haste and end up breaking the law. Probably explains why dealers do not fit them as extras on new vans at inflated prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayeastanglia Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 A little warning to those that have these bleeper bulbs.you motorhome/car will fail its mot plus if you get stopped by vosa you will get a nice rectification note from them,and may not be able to drive away until its fixed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyishuk Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Just a passing thought, not that I know anything about modern wiring using a bus (???) system. Could the extra load, fluctuating current etc cause problems ? Rgds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapido-lass Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 What about your insurance if you've got one of these bulbs fitted? Insurance companies deem the policy void if your vehicle is not road worthy - having one of these fitted would not constitute a MOT pass as mentioned in a previous post, and therefore your insurance is void. So hyperthetically you could be warning someone that you are about to reverse, reverse and not see that they aren't out the way and knock them down.Then be privately sued as your insurance is void. Somehow that bulb doesn't look quite so appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthmover Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Hi There, I take it you don't live the UK then ?. Coming back from Scotland last year, I stopped and parked next to Three Traffic police cars in a car park in Langholme, When I wanted to continue on my way, 8 of them upon hearing my reverse buzzer , casually stepped to one side, for me to reverse out, with a cheery wave. No, buck him Danno!! (To young to remember that Eh) Em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterrosey Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Blatant plug alert! It's worth noting that we're testing eight reversing camera systems in a future issue of MMM (probably October issue) so watch out for this... Peter R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Before doing any mods to a vehicle with a 'can buss' system you really need to check with an auto electrician or the manufacture as nearly every bit of equipment including all the bulbs are switched via electronic chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Steeltmate.co.uk do a natty reversing buzzer it has a connection to the sidelights so will not work when they are turned on it is listed under other products Alf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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