colin weston Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 It may be of interest to current owners that the latest Fiat/Peugeot based vans have a double-sided adhesive white foam tape (approx section 12mm x 2mm) fitted between the scuttle to windscreen joint to help prevent water entering the engine compartment via this joint. I am looking at a similar fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 My 2008 model has black soft plastic/rubber moulding that fits over the bottom of the windscreen and to the top of the scuttle. I've never had any water under the bonnet regardless of weather conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin weston Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 From your photograph it looks as if you have the standard scuttle panels where the lower part is a rigid plastic and the upper part is a more pliable rubber which should effect a seal with the windscreen. Many of the earlier models suffered leaks at the bottom of the windscreen due to the rubber sealing portion not contacting the windscreen in some locations. The adhesive foam I am referring to is attached beneath the sealing lip of the scuttle panel. If you carefully lift the end corner of the seal you will see what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Just had a look, you can't peel it apart it's all one piece, the soft seal and the ridged plastic scuttle are moulded together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Had another look after reading your post more carefully, there is no foam under the seal but it does make good contact with the screen. Peeling it back there is a bit bit of muck that's collected between the seal & screen no more than would be expected. If it ever did cause a problem it would be easy enough to run a bead of Silicon RTV along the contact area to completely seal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 lennyhb - 2009-07-24 1:56 PM Had another look after reading your post more carefully, there is no foam under the seal but it does make good contact with the screen. Peeling it back there is a bit bit of muck that's collected between the seal & screen no more than would be expected. If it ever did cause a problem it would be easy enough to run a bead of Silicon RTV along the contact area to completely seal it. The muck that remains is as a result of water passing through - much as a river deposits silt! I would ask myself one question - do ya feel lucky? - well do ya? - why should yours be the only one that don't leak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 It's only the first 10mm that has a bit of muck further down completely dry & clean. Under the bonnet everything is clean dry, shiny & rust free. Can you say the same for under your bonnet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 lennyhb - 2009-07-24 2:20 PM It's only the first 10mm that has a bit of muck further down completely dry & clean. Under the bonnet everything is clean dry, shiny & rust free. Can you say the same for under your bonnet? No - my engine is still covered in very fine sand from a Sahara sandstorm!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanracer Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I use a product that costs about £5, called Capt Tolleys creeping crack cure. Its a latex based fluid that on use is white but when dry changes to clear. I run this along the top of the scuttle and down the centre join because its fluid when first used it finds any small gaps by capillary action and my engine stays nice and dry. I first used this on my boat and was amazed how well it works you can find it in marina's and on ebay. Its a lot less visual than a silicone sealant and a 60ml bottle lasts for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Well tracker I would be a lot more worried about sand than a bit of water. As for sealants I sell an excellent black RTV (plug plug) that the auto trade use on screen seals & sunroofs ideal as the scuttle & base of windscreen are black won't show if you are a bit messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo3090 Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I know some people find this water ingress thing important, so I'm not wanting to be flippant when I say this. BUT... doesn't water spray from driving in wet weather enter the engine compartment from underneath the engine anyway? So why is a small amount of water dripping onto the engine such a big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 The main problem was on the early vehicles where the water was collecting on the injectors & they were rusting, long term it could have caused problems if the injectors needed replacing. 1st mod Fiat fitted an engine cover, the next mod was a redesigned scuttle & seal. My van is 2008 never had any problem I've checked it several times after severe weather both stationary & driving, all dry under the bonnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo3090 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Mine doesn't "leak" either as far as I can see. It too is a 2008 model. There is an engine cover and a drain hole from the scuttle too, so perhaps it has been modifed and isn't a problem on vans of that year and onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Collings Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Water getting into the engine compartment of a van in daily use is not a problem as it soon dries out from engine/radiator heat. On a motorcaravan standing around it is an ideal environment to promote corrosion. Specially designed as a base for motorcaravans??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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