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clinkscat - 2010-03-22 6:28 PMA friend wishes to take possibly up to seven people in his Swift Sundance 4berth on family outings he only as one rear seltbelt and wonders about the legality of carrying passengers

If he has seven seats I believe that it's legal. However, it is not wise to carry unbelted passengers on any occasion.

How would he feel if there was a serious accident and someone was injured? The lawyers would have a field day!

It could be argued that he was irresponsible for allowing unsecured passengers to be transported and he may find himself on the wrong end of a law suit. 
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How I understand it to be and no doubt I will be wrong, if there is seating for 7 then he can seat 7 , the seat belt that is present has to be used by someone.

 

The problems start when you involve under height or under age children who require specialised seating with 3 point belts to attach them.

 

The thought of an accident with that many in the back unbelted doesn't bear thinking about. I remember an accident on Anglesey a few years ago when 6 young men all died in one transit van when in head on with a car, only 1 survived.

 

But others do things like this I am sure and as people often compare them with mini buses without belts and coaches.

 

Mandy

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Hi and welcome to the mad house! :->

 

The first thing I would think he needs to do is call his insurers - they may only have given him insurance based on it having 3 belted seats (ie driver & 2 passengers), in which case he will be breaking his agreement with the insurance company ... not a good idea.

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Regarding the legality of carrying passengers in seats not fitted with safety-belts, it's going to depend on when the motorhome was first registered and/or whether the passengers are classed as 'children' or 'adults'.

 

The following links may be helpful:

 

http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/NR/rdonlyres/60035D01-5750-4E72-91FE-760B6DD21FC7/0/YourTop20Motorcaravanquestions.pdf

 

http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=15271&posts=10

 

http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=14322&posts=10

 

http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/motorhome-faqs.shtml

 

http://www.motorhomefacts.com/ftopic-39170.html

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It would also be advisable to weigh the vehicle, seven adults at 75 KGs each is 525KGs or half a Tonne. Does your friend's motorhome have that much payload spare?

 

D.

 

In Edit: even if three or four of those extra passengers are children the total load could easily add up to 350-400KGs, plus the driver of course.

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davenewell@home - 2010-03-24 9:46 PMIt would also be advisable to weigh the vehicle, seven adults at 75 KGs each is 525KGs or half a Tonne. Does your friend's motorhome have that much payload spare?D.In Edit: even if three or four of those extra passengers are children the total load could easily add up to 350-400KGs, plus the driver of course.

Good one! None of us had thought about that but you're probably right. The 'van is likely to be seriously overloaded and the insurance may well be void!
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