Mel B Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Heard a bit of the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 today, where they were discussing the situation in the Irish Republic and whether or not the UK should help them out. One person thought we should as we had had 'colonial rule' over them in the past and 'owed' it to them. If we did agreed that we should we'd end up paying to loads of other countries too who we'd 'ruled' in the past The other totally disagreed - we haven't ruled them yonks so why should we bail them out - they've enjoyed the good times and the payouts from Brussels so let them go back and ask the EU for more, not us. What's your view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon2 Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 My personal answer NO! I was working outside Kings Cross station when they bombed it they want all of Ireland they can have it and pay their own way. I don't normaly get worked up but the cowards bombed us then ran back to the republic crying that its not fair if our soldiers shoot to kill. I'm fuming that the idea even crossed their minds. John >:-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Absolutely not! The Irish decided that they did not want to be part of the UK many years ago and when they joined the Euro that also signified that they saw their future as being in the Eurozone - so let the Eurozone bail them out. The Irish people made their choices and just as I would not expect Ireland to bail us out if they were the stronger I don't see why we should help their economy when our own is in such dire straights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Certainly not. They've had the good times, now comes the day of reckoning. Mickey Mouse country, who thought they had suddenly become big players within th EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leon Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 How can we bail them out when were in financial trouble ourselves. they got themselves into it and let the EU save them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnerontheroad Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 NO, NO, NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 YES YES YES bejeyzus :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 For some time they have been recipiants of mega euros from the EU pot. Why do countries think that independance does not involve being independantly responsible. Definately NO>:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Only if it reduces the price of Guinness! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duetto owner Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 a big NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Jeanie Mc Namara A BIG YES! :-D In all seriousness do you think we are capable of bailing out anyone..... delusional or what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 ... and since when did the politicians pay any heed to that? *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Brian Kirby - 2010-11-12 6:13 PM Only if it reduces the price of Guinness! :-)Second that Brian. But only the proppr stuff you get over there. The Guinness you get here isn't the same, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 peter - 2010-11-12 10:25 PM Brian Kirby - 2010-11-12 6:13 PM Only if it reduces the price of Guinness! :-)Second that Brian. But only the proppr stuff you get over there. The Guinness you get here isn't the same, unfortunately. Indeed....... its all in the water :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted November 17, 2010 Author Share Posted November 17, 2010 I see that Cameron's cronies are suggesting that we bail them out after all ... what a surprise that is! Sometimes 'charity' should begin at home me thinks. :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicka Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Sorry Mel, As I posted on European Gravy Train thread This one AGAIN is down to G.Brown esq." Unfortunately, it looks like we are due to be affected very shortly. If Eire is rescued by the EU, the UK is committed to 12% of any rescue package, a quoted to be Euro60bn/£57bn. Apparently this is due to an agreement signed last year by our illustrous former leader Grabbing Gordon. Was that guy on commission Yet another fact obscured at the time. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Momma Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Irrespective of which party is in power, all Politicians will bail out everyone else in the world to look good on the International stage, except their own people that is >:-( >:-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Surely whether or not we should help to bail them out depends on what effect it would have on us if they go bust. But I doubt if anyone knows for sure what that effect would be. :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I think we should declare war on France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 knight of the road - 2010-11-17 11:36 PM I think we should declare war on France. Well quite a lot of us do invade France every year. Does that count ? (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerhound Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Give them nowt, let them stand alone. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 malc d - 2010-11-17 11:28 PM Surely whether or not we should help to bail them out depends on what effect it would have on us if they go bust. But I doubt if anyone knows for sure what that effect would be. :'( It seems to be mainly the Irish banks that are in the doo doo, the government having broadly done what is thought necessary to control its fiscal problems. Unfortunately, the Irish government underwrote Irish bank debts, to prevent, as they saw it at the time, wholesale collapse of the Irish banking sector. The banks debts are said to be equal to one year's Irish GDP.UK banks bought a lot of the Irish banks' bonds, etc, before they got into trouble, so, if the Irish banks were to fail, the UK banks would suffer huge losses. Our contribution to the rescue package will, therefore, help underwrite the Irish government's underwrite of the Irish banks' debts, so averting the possibility of further heavy losses and possible collapses within the UK banking sector. I hope that is not too Irish! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Brian Kirby - 2010-11-18 2:24 PMmalc d - 2010-11-17 11:28 PM Surely whether or not we should help to bail them out depends on what effect it would have on us if they go bust. But I doubt if anyone knows for sure what that effect would be. :'( It seems to be mainly the Irish banks that are in the doo doo, the government having broadly done what is thought necessary to control its fiscal problems. Unfortunately, the Irish government underwrote Irish bank debts, to prevent, as they saw it at the time, wholesale collapse of the Irish banking sector. The banks debts are said to be equal to one year's Irish GDP.UK banks bought a lot of the Irish banks' bonds, etc, before they got into trouble, so, if the Irish banks were to fail, the UK banks would suffer huge losses. Our contribution to the rescue package will, therefore, help underwrite the Irish government's underwrite of the Irish banks' debts, so averting the possibility of further heavy losses and possible collapses within the UK banking sector. I hope that is not too Irish! :-)There's also the fact that Ireland is one of our main export customers so I see it as in our interests to see them stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Is there by any chance any other country that helps to bail out Britain? Why is it always a one way street, us helping all and sundry out of the mire. America helped us out during the last war financially and with weapons etc and it took us a long time to repay our debts but pay it we did The more we help everybody else the longer it is before we get straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 If it wasn't for an Irishman (Duke of Wellington) you would all be half French by now...probably would have improved the gene pool no end, or at least the cooking *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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