Upset Ekka

[flicka]

After my post on another thread, I have just received this from Ekka - well I for one won't miss you Ekka.

"Hello, I refer to your thread below. I really do not know what prompted you to put this on a public forum thread but I can tell you obviously read most if not all the threads, and seem to have an opinion about almost everything ( 1600+ posts). What would all of us idiots who you must think have just crawled out of a cave out here do without your constant tips or contributions, why you need a website all to yourself you have so much to say.  You will be delighted to know I'm sure that I have no intention of ever looking on these pointless forums that are obviously frequented for the most part by people like you, and if questioned or challenged on the relevance of their post take the hump big time, then post disparaging comments. My guess is you obviously have too much time on your hands, perhaps you should get out more.  Don't even think of replying I have in advance of sending this added your email address to my Junk mail from where it will be automatically deleted.  I really do not have the time to waste on any more of your drivel, hows that for antagonising you pompous self righteous opinionated pillock. 

 Ekka

If you joined this forum to antagonise, you are certainly succeeding.

Have you come over fom the one that now charges to post. 

Please learn some forum etiquette

[BGD]

Sounds like he sussed you pretty quickly John..........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

;-)

[CliveH]

Yes - John - stop being noisy and disruptive (lol)

 

Don't you know this forum is not for chatting but for the anal retentive??

 

(lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)

 

Laugh it off John. You did the right thing by publishing the childish sillyness.

 

And if you change your style of posting one jot to accommodate "Eckky thump" here - I will have to have words with you!! 8-)

 

[malc d]

Reading between the lines of what he said, I think you may have upset him.

 

 

 

;-)

[Guest pelmetman]

Was it something you said :D

[nowtelse2do]

I think ekka upset him, on the other-hand ekka did seem a bit abrupt and inpatient if he could not get the answer he wanted. When people put a thread up they should realise that there are still people at work and can't respond as quickly as others can.

What I don't agree to is someone divulging the contents of a pm (private message) It would make me think twice if for some reason I needed to pm that person.

Your input on the forum is excellent flicker, but I think you should have bit your bottom lip. I acknowledge that it wasn't a friendly or courteous pm from ekka, but two wrongs doesn't make a right.

How about both of you returning to your corners and come out smiling. I won't say burying the hatchet, one of you might take it literally :-D

Dave

[Mel B]

Flika, sorry old chap, but I don't think you should have posted the 'private message' verbatim on the forum, it was a piece of 'private' correspondence and IMV should have been kept that way. You could have mentioned the gist of it though if you wanted.

 

I've had some stonkingly horribly PMs in the past from the well known forum nasties who are no longer on here fortunately, but not once would I put their actual full PM on an open forum.

 

As for Ekka, I think he was impatient and appeared to expect instant responses which were on topic, mostly serious and sensible, which, as we all know, is not what a general forum is - more like a good natter in a pub, where some people will make daft/funny (and permitted!) comments - it all adds to the banter and stops things getting too bogged down at times, lightening the mood, before the thread inevitably gets back on track. IMV totally on-topic responses should only ever be expected from a professional forum, like those provided by manufacturers etc.

 

If Ekka had stayed around and read more postings he would probably have sussed out the forum etiquette and general 'way things go' so it would not have caused him concern when some answers were less 'formal'.

 

Hopefully he will come back and take part again, as I'm sure he, like many, has some genuine insights and help to give to others. :-S

[CliveH]

Good advice Dave

 

Only point you and I would differ on is using PM's for abuse. Bully's do that because they think they can get away with it.

 

I would suggest that a good idea is not to put any content in a PM that you would not want on general view.

 

For me PM's are for personal comment to an individual that is not really suitable for publication in an open forum. Things can get quite heated in any conversation – whatever the medium.

 

I really do not think PM’s are for the sort of content John received.

 

I think John did the correct thing in publishing it.

 

But then – even if you disagree with this – I am sure we can agree to disagree.

 

[nowtelse2do]

Disagrement is good form Clive, it gives two or more diffrent takes on a subject, if everyone agreed with each other the forum would only need one thread called 'The I agree thread.' Now that would be boring.

Dave

[flicka]

It was the agressive tone of Ekka's e-mail, that I did not like & his action to stop me responding, even with any positive or reconsiliatory comments.

I accept this led me to the possibly hasty descison of posting his e-mail in full.

I've received many PM's in the past, occasionally in disagreement, but never using such agressive language.

Anyway, I'm not one to bear grudges, life to short.

To paraphrase Churchill's comment:-

 "you can please some people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time"

[twooks]

err

who is Ekka

 

I know I've been away for a while but have I missed the troll of the season??

 

B-)

[Robinhood]

I thought EkKa and FlicKa were brothers! :-D

Just a family squabble.

Nothing to see here, move along please. ;-)

[Syd]

I think Flika was quiet right to publicise the message, why should someone be allowed to hide such childish abuse of a poster behind the privilidge of a private email.

 

If you can say something in private then you should be able to justify it in public otherwise DONT say it

 

GOOD decission Flika

 

 

[ips]

Syd - 2011-01-27 10:45 PM

 

I think Flika was quiet right to publicise the message, why should someone be allowed to hide such childish abuse of a poster behind the privilidge of a private email.

 

If you can say something in private then you should be able to justify it in public otherwise DONT say it

 

GOOD decission Flika

 

 

I disagree, pm stands for "private message" does it not. If this ekka chappy wanted to abuse flicka in public then he would have done so by way of posting. He obviously decided that there argument (who ever was right or wrong is irelevent) was a personal matter so pm'd. I dont agree with going public with email or pm unless its in the interest of everyone which this obviously was not.

[nightrider]

Who is this Ekka? never heard of him, he complains about Flika's 1600 posts, any group manager would welcome members sending in many posts.

Nothing worse for a group manager opening up his comp and finding no posts, you carry on posting Flika you're one of the boys.

I think Flika was in order to send in the PM from Ekka showing members what Ekka is, nowt but a bully, the kind of dude that sends anonymous letters to the council.

[nightrider]

I belong to another group that specialises in a particular British built cult vehicle.

They have what they call an "Anything goes" forum for off topic subjects and they have a warning that says dont enter this forum if you are easily offended.

This forum is refreshingly honest where you can vent your spleen and get things off your chest and woe betide any PC dude jumping in, they would be torn to pieces, a group well worth joining.

[Guest pelmetman]

This British built cult vehicle Malcolm?...................is it a Reliant Robin :D

[ips]

This needs a new thread..........guess the cult vehicle competition.

 

My guess is .... Mini moke

[nightrider]

Gawd almighty, if you were to mention a Reliant Robin or a Mini Moke in the same breath as this particular cult vehicle, the members of that group would descend on your house and lash you to the tow hook and the nearest lamp post and tear you assunder until you were deaded.

[ekka]

knight of the road - 2011-01-28 10:01 AM

 

Who is this Ekka? never heard of him, he complains about Flika's 1600 posts, any group manager would welcome members sending in many posts.

Nothing worse for a group manager opening up his comp and finding no posts, you carry on posting Flika you're one of the boys.

I think Flika was in order to send in the PM from Ekka showing members what Ekka is, nowt but a bully, the kind of dude that sends anonymous letters to the council.

 

For anyone interested my PRIVATE email to Flicka was in response to having my wrists slapped in public by him on another thread. Whilst I would be fully prepared to accept this by a forum moderator I was more than a little miffed. Surely the reasonable thing for him to have done if he felt so strongly was to have sent a private message to me, not try to humiliate me in public. I think it says it all that he has gone on to post my PRIVATE message in full here. I will say no more, except I'm glad for the few words of support from some of you.

[Guest pelmetman]

ekka - 2011-01-28 9:39 PM

 

knight of the road - 2011-01-28 10:01 AM

 

Who is this Ekka? never heard of him, he complains about Flika's 1600 posts, any group manager would welcome members sending in many posts.

Nothing worse for a group manager opening up his comp and finding no posts, you carry on posting Flika you're one of the boys.

I think Flika was in order to send in the PM from Ekka showing members what Ekka is, nowt but a bully, the kind of dude that sends anonymous letters to the council.

 

For anyone interested my PRIVATE email to Flicka was in response to having my wrists slapped in public by him on another thread. Whilst I would be fully prepared to accept this by a forum moderator I was more than a little miffed. Surely the reasonable thing for him to have done if he felt so strongly was to have sent a private message to me, not try to humiliate me in public. I think it says it all that he has gone on to post my PRIVATE message in full here. I will say no more, except I'm glad for the few words of support from some of you.

 

Come back in Ekka and enjoy the banter, we all tripe stuff in haste :D

[colin]

knight of the road - 2011-01-28 10:13 AM

 

I belong to another group that specialises in a particular British built cult vehicle.

They have what they call an "Anything goes" forum for off topic subjects and they have a warning that says dont enter this forum if you are easily offended.

This forum is refreshingly honest where you can vent your spleen and get things off your chest and woe betide any PC dude jumping in, they would be torn to pieces, a group well worth joining.

 

I'm a member of another forum which has a similier section, there are views expressed in it that would give the owners of this site kittens, interestingly many are also members of your forum ;-)

but they have fairly strict rules on personal abuse and posting of pm's.

A small amount of name calling is tolerated, but overstep the mark and you get a temperary ban (proboly permenant for a newbie) any abuse in a pm will also lead to a ban as will posting pm's.

 

[flicka]

ekka - 2011-01-28 9:39 PM  For anyone interested my PRIVATE email to Flicka was in response to having my wrists slapped in public by him on another thread. Whilst I would be fully prepared to accept this by a forum moderator I was more than a little miffed. Surely the reasonable thing for him to have done if he felt so strongly was to have sent a private message to me, not try to humiliate me in public. I think it says it all that he has gone on to post my PRIVATE message in full here. I will say no more, except I'm glad for the few words of support from some of you.

Hello Ekka

Firstly let me clarify that it was an e-mail direct to me, not a PM.

I posted as you had made it clear any reply would be straight into your Junk mail box, denying me any right of reply.

As I posted earlier, I accept I acted in haste posting your e-mail, but I found the wording to be very aggressive.

However by responding to this thread, I now have that opportunity, so has I have also stated above I am not a personto bear grudges, so please accept my apologies for starting this thread & can we be more amicable in future. 

[nightrider]

Flicka,

Why should you apologise to someone who calls you a pompous, self righteous pillock, a gross insult in my opinion.

Ekka says that Flicka has sent in 1600 plus posts, Ekka has only sent in about 43 posts so I would say that Ekka has got a lot to learn about the banter on this forum.

[CliveH]

flicka - 2011-01-28 11:26 PM

ekka - 2011-01-28 9:39 PM  For anyone interested my PRIVATE email to Flicka was in response to having my wrists slapped in public by him on another thread. Whilst I would be fully prepared to accept this by a forum moderator I was more than a little miffed. Surely the reasonable thing for him to have done if he felt so strongly was to have sent a private message to me, not try to humiliate me in public. I think it says it all that he has gone on to post my PRIVATE message in full here. I will say no more, except I'm glad for the few words of support from some of you.

Hello Ekka

Firstly let me clarify that it was an e-mail direct to me, not a PM.

I posted as you had made it clear any reply would be straight into your Junk mail box, denying me any right of reply.

As I posted earlier, I accept I acted in haste posting your e-mail, but I found the wording to be very aggressive.

However by responding to this thread, I now have that opportunity, so has I have also stated above I am not a personto bear grudges, so please accept my apologies for starting this thread & can we be more amicable in future. 

I think this underlines the mearsure of flikkaOlive branch offered But firmly pointing out that it was an abusive email he recieved - as far as I am concerned Ekka - that was a pretty dispicable thing to do. If you did it to me I would have done the same as Flikka.BUT! We all make mistakes and overall this is a friendly place where we can usually agree to disagree.