robkilby Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Posting this on " chatterbox" cos happy to get lighthearted responses...garage can do the real diagnosis ! Van was rather poorly Saturday morning...just filled up with diesel, mile to motorway and turned onto M6 , ready to go and see outlaws in Blackpool...real loss of power...couldn't get it over 40 in 4th or 5th, with foot flat to the floor ( pouring down too)...so came off at next junction and drove to my Mums ( 20/30 mph...hazard lights ) and borrowed her Yaris. Went back yesterday and the van seemed fine. We only had to get it to our local motorhome dealer and garage ( Spinney) where it was booked in for its 60,000 service anyway( then walk home) What do you reckon the problem will turn out to be ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowtelse2do Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 robkilby - 2011-02-07 7:15 PM Posting this on " chatterbox" cos happy to get lighthearted responses...garage can do the real diagnosis ! Van was rather poorly Saturday morning...just filled up with diesel, mile to motorway and turned onto M6 , ready to go and see outlaws in Blackpool...real loss of power...couldn't get it over 40 in 4th or 5th, with foot flat to the floor ( pouring down too)...so came off at next junction and drove to my Mums ( 20/30 mph...hazard lights ) and borrowed her Yaris. Went back yesterday and the van seemed fine. We only had to get it to our local motorhome dealer and garage ( Spinney) where it was booked in for its 60,000 service anyway( then walk home) What do you reckon the problem will turn out to be ?? Probably didn't want to go to the outlaws. :-DHope this helps, and stand by, lunatics around.DaveAnother possibility, fuel filters or air filters want changing, which Spinney will do on the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Possibly a wayward sensor of some sort having a senior moment - or the driver having a senior moment? Might be found by a diagnostic computer check - not the driver as he is beyond help - but if it's intermittent it probably won't show up until it fails completely. I hope that reassures you! Alternatively heading towards Blackpool is enough to put anything off it's stride - coulda been worse - might have been going towards Fleetwood - or Grimsby and that coulda been terminal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art338 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Birds nesting around the air intake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Probably had the handbrake on. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebishbus Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Hi . Another nasty thing could a collapsing catalytic converter. 8-) Brian B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Blocked fuel filter or fuel line? It could be possible that bits in the tank were 'disturbed' by you filling it and then were drawn into the fuel lines. By leaving it to 'rest' the particles gradually flowed out of the fuel lines and back into the tank ... ??? Oh - by the way - thanks Richard. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Collings Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Or hose to intercooler blown off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 George Collings - 2011-02-07 10:22 PM Or hose to intercooler blown off. If it's a turbo engine, I'd have gone with this, apart from the fact it seems to have cleared itself.Happened to me one (dark and stormy :-( ) night as I joined the A64 at Tadcaster. A real, instant, dip in power.Luckily, I'd read other people's accounts of the problem, and assisted by the (blowing) noise, managed to diagnose it before I stopped, and, as the clip was still on the hose, fix it in a narrow layby with the juggernauts pounding past. It cost me quite a lot of skin off my arms, as it wasn't particularly accessible, but boy, was I proud of myself, especially as we still managed to get on-site before it closed. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicka Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 My guess. Faulty sensor somewhere sending or not sending message to the ECU, which has put the engine into "preservation" mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 EGR valve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna miller Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 robkilby - 2011-02-07 7:15 PM Van was rather poorly Saturday morning...just filled up with diesel, What do you reckon the problem will turn out to be ?? You've got a petrol engine. :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
602 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 You've got a petrol engine. :D Hi I was going to suggest that you had topped up the tank wirth petrol .......but that wouldn't cure itself. Hint .... if you have, try to drain as much as possible yourself. A garage will charge you over 50p a litre to dispose of contaminated fuel, plus their hourly rate while the mechanic stands there watching. Not much change from £50, plus the refill. 602 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowtelse2do Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 If it had been top up with petrol, he would have known about it a few hundred yards from the petrol station, a sort of knocking and spluttering, bags of smoke then a new engine. Been there, Done it 8-) :D:DDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky 8 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 colin - 2011-02-07 11:10 PM EGR valve ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkilby Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 Well..thanks for the ideas ! The garage phoned and said it was " something " in the diesel..they have cleaned it out. I pick up the van tomorrow....nice jog to go and get it What is the consensus on running fuel tanks...never go below half full, or run it nice and low sometimes ? By the way.....could " something " in the diesel explain an intermitently working erbach ( ?? you know what i mean ) heater ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Something in the diesel sounds like a fob off to me - is it garage speak for 'we haven't a clue but as we spent an hour looking we are gonna charge you for something and it may as well be this?' Something in the diesel? So that's where the Loch Ness Monster went then is it? Something in the diesel? It wasn't Bee Pee was it? Contaminated fuel would stop anything running including the Eberspacher - I think that's what you meant? How long has the Eberspacher been intermittent? Has it happened with either engine or Eberspacher before you bought the last tankful? Where did you buy your fuel - have you bought fuel there before and had a problem? I often run the tank very low before refueling - especially on a long haul - and have never - so far - had a problem - touch wood!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowtelse2do Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Could be pulling air in....? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
602 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hi, I added half a tankfull (£30) of petrol, drove 10 miles, pulled into a layby. On restarting, the engine was way down on power. lots of smoke. Yep, it was a diesel. That mistake cost me £100. But once the tank was almost empty, I was able to start, and drive over to pumps to refill. Then again, it was a 1960 Land Rover. Never noticed any ill effects. What I really wanted was a taxi to fetch me half a dozen jerry cans, a length of hose, and a couple of gallons of fresh diesel. It would have been quicker and cheaper. 602 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Collings Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I go with Tracker on this one but suspect BP actually stood for Bull Poo. I refer the the honourable member from Cheshire to my previous answer. (blown off hose ). Most vehicles have the fuel pick very close bottom of the tank so that contamination is continiously swept up to be dealt with by the filter. In regular use it does not matter much if a tank runs low or high most of the time. If a vehicle stands for prolonged periods in winter the larger volume of air in a near empty tank expands and contracts more breathing in moist air that condenses and accumulates below the fuel. In this environment bugs grow that eat diesel and excrete slime that can clog filters. Its best to keep the tank well topped up if the vehicle is standing about. T The way fuel prices are heading a decent filler cap lock might be worthwhile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 One does need to be careful with blowing off George - especially at our sort of age! As Billy Connolly once said about being 65 - 'never pass a loo, never trust a fart, and never waste an erection - even if you are alone!' As I understood it BP - aka Bull Poo - is what the government specialise in spreading over a gullible electorate - but I could be wrong - and pigs might fly - but that's another story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Robinhood - 2011-02-07 10:38 PM George Collings - 2011-02-07 10:22 PM Or hose to intercooler blown off. If it's a turbo engine, I'd have gone with this, apart from the fact it seems to have cleared itself.Happened to me one (dark and stormy :-( ) night as I joined the A64 at Tadcaster. A real, instant, dip in power.Luckily, I'd read other people's accounts of the problem, and assisted by the (blowing) noise, managed to diagnose it before I stopped, and, as the clip was still on the hose, fix it in a narrow layby with the juggernauts pounding past. It cost me quite a lot of skin off my arms, as it wasn't particularly accessible, but boy, was I proud of myself, especially as we still managed to get on-site before it closed. :-D Well, I guess you'll have done a few miles since but, just in case you haven't done this, do check the clip on the other end of the hose, as well as the ones on that funny metal "silencer" device, right at the back of the engine! First real trip we did in ours it blew the hose of that metal chamber at about 60MPH just outside Dover - fixed by AA under Ford's warranty. Three hours later, it blew the other end just outside Calais - fixed by local Peugeot dealer again under Ford's warranty. Surely, someone must by now have explained to the production line fitter what his screwdriver is actually for? :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Brian Kirby - 2011-02-09 4:43 PM Robinhood - 2011-02-07 10:38 PM George Collings - 2011-02-07 10:22 PM Or hose to intercooler blown off. If it's a turbo engine, I'd have gone with this, apart from the fact it seems to have cleared itself.Happened to me one (dark and stormy :-( ) night as I joined the A64 at Tadcaster. A real, instant, dip in power.Luckily, I'd read other people's accounts of the problem, and assisted by the (blowing) noise, managed to diagnose it before I stopped, and, as the clip was still on the hose, fix it in a narrow layby with the juggernauts pounding past. It cost me quite a lot of skin off my arms, as it wasn't particularly accessible, but boy, was I proud of myself, especially as we still managed to get on-site before it closed. :-D Well, I guess you'll have done a few miles since but, just in case you haven't done this, do check the clip on the other end of the hose, as well as the ones on that funny metal "silencer" device, right at the back of the engine! First real trip we did in ours it blew the hose of that metal chamber at about 60MPH just outside Dover - fixed by AA under Ford's warranty. Three hours later, it blew the other end just outside Calais - fixed by local Peugeot dealer again under Ford's warranty. Surely, someone must by now have explained to the production line fitter what his screwdriver is actually for? :-D T'was the previous 'van, Brian, and a good few years into its use as well.A Ducato 2.8JTD (and well known for doing it, as picked up by me from both forums and magazines).The other end was checked as best I could on the roadside, and rechecked the following morning on-site. I was very lucky the clip remained on the hose. :-)Funnily enough, the first check on Etis after getting the current 'van home (and I'd checked it clear before purchase :-S) threw up a recall for the intercooler hose detaching, and I got a letter shortly afterwards. Replaced an intermediate metal component (with a bigger hose retaining lip -I think) under warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkilby Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Picked up the van tonight...nice to have it back. May have been "something eelctrical "after all....very none tech girlfriend took the call..i will find out when i pick the spare keys up on Sat Cheers for all the posts you lot Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 robkilby - 2011-02-09 7:52 PM "something eelctrical "after all Rob A Dyslexic ECU maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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