tonyfletcher Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Hi I have a Fiat Ducato 2.8 jtd 2003 Maxi on an Alco Chassis and looking to get someone to supply me with an Exhaust. I have a Non-Cat system and all the local Exhaust companies are struggling to find the correct one Has anyone any good contacts? Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Have a look here. The cat is in the downpipe, so you shouldn't need it anyway. £128.00 plus a couple of gaskets. http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/exhausts-buy.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patr Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Tony When the exhaust on my 2.8JTD Hymer (Al-Ko chassis) started to go I tried all the usual suspects without success. In the end, having contacted Al-Ko and realising just how expensive it was going to be to get a replacement from them in steel, I had a stainless steel system fitted by Longlife. They built the system from scratch, replaced the entire system from manifold to exit pipe and re-routed the exhaust to allow a much easier gas exit flow. It was cheaper by a considerable margin than the Al-Ko quote and was backed up with a (transferable) lifetime guarantee. I have since had a Longlife system fitted to my Honda Jazz which was about £70 cheaper than my Honda Dealer who would have used mild steel with a years warranty. It is a no brainer really and I have been delighted at the very professional service I have received on both occassions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I ad the same problem with my van (2003 Alko maxi) You can either pay a lot of money for a similar exhaust (you will have to wait a while as it will have to be imported probably) You can pay a lot of money for a stainless steel exhaust. OR....you can do what I did. I paid £85 for a normal RHD system minus the front section and modify the hangers to suit. It cost £60 for the hanger mods and it means that my next exhaust system will be cheap as chips and readily available anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 tonyfletcher - 2011-03-24 9:24 PM Hi I have a Fiat Ducato 2.8 jtd 2003 Maxi on an Alco Chassis and looking to get someone to supply me with an Exhaust. I have a Non-Cat system and all the local Exhaust companies are struggling to find the correct one Has anyone any good contacts? Cheers Tony I have just had this same problem, although on a 2.8 jtd 2003 LWB panel van conversion. There is no cat on mine either, just a straight downpipe ( sofim engine so I'm told ). Eventually I found that the rear (two box section) is just a standard Fiat ducato, the part number on mine was 1355373080 I had to visually check that the exhaust mountings were in the same place. If you PM me I will try to get you further information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 The exhausts fitted to Alko chassis are often a non-standard "cut and shut" job made up from original Ducato parts (particularly the silencer boxes) but joined together with modified mild steel piping, giving a different geometry to any of the originals. Al-Ko will (somewhat reluctantly) sometimes advise on which components were used (given the make model and year of the 'van) but waiting for supply can then be hit and miss, and the cost is usually pretty expensive. Taking the easy way out, Al-Ko will usually recommend you approach a stainless steel exhaust fabricator, and have one "made-to-measure". (It is possible to have fabrication done in mild steel, but given that much of the cost is measuring, labour, and fitting, it is often better to pay slightly more for a replacement that will last for the life of the 'van) I considered buying an aftermarket replacement system, and having the intermediate piping altered, but there was little scope for leaving a straight "tail" on the silencers to clamp onto - the pipes going straght into a bend from the boxes. Some have (as has been posted) had some luck by modifying the mounting points, and using a standard exhaust, but this depends on the nature of the original (they vary enormously by type of chassis and converter). My major problem was with the final tail pipe - which I removed and got a local fabricator to use as a pattern in mild steel, successfully and very cheap. If you need a whole system, the best solution will probably be to find a fabricator that can manufacture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 An Al-Ko maxi chassis does not vary, it is the front bit that can vary. If I had the ability to get under my van, it would have been a simple enough job to do myself. All that is needed is a drill and a few drill bits. The existing hangers were just moved. The only 'extra' that I felt was needed was an angled chrome tailpipe, to deflect the exhaust gases towards the ground. This is because my hab door is on the UK offside (German van). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 747 - 2011-03-27 5:25 PM An Al-Ko maxi chassis does not vary, it is the front bit that can vary. There's actually quite a lot of variance in Al-Ko chassis - particularly as they come in different lengths, giving different effective wheelbases. (they come in different weight ratings as well, and it is possible to get double floor or extra-low floor versions). Because of the various lengths, the position of the cross-members on the chassis tend to differ, and thus the position of the hangers is adjusted to suit the chassis structure. I believe (though it wasn't the situation on mine) that on some versions, the exhaust exits from under the vehicle through the chassis frame, rather than below the chassis. The end result is that various exhaust solutions have been used by different manufacturers, depending on the particular version of the chassis used, and the bodywork attached. I must admit that I find it difficult to understand why a layout could not have been produced which for all variants would accept the standard exhaust, but maybe the converter sets constraints by what bodywork is ultimately fitted. This is to a certain extent confirmed by one of the replies I had to an extended set of correspondence with Al-Ko about mine, viz: On our chassis conversions, we use the original silencer boxes that are slightly modified by adding additional pipe work to accommodate the body work of the motorhome. In my case this was a bit of an understatement, as I had a standard system "offered up" under my vehicle at a very obliging local specialist with a "big lift". The boxes were the same, but the general pipework geometry was very much different. Whilst I have read of other people moving the hangers to suit a standard exhaust, I'm not sure that this would work well in all cases (due to a combination of chassis and bodywork variations, and I would be wary of drilling the chassis (particularly if it had some element of warranty still running) as I understand that people who have drilled an Al-Ko chassis to mount a towbar have had their warranty rescinded. It may well be, however, that any such warranty is well expired by the time a replacement exhaust is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Is the OP reading this at all ? :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Who cares? it passes the time typing something. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Yes, I very often continue talking to people in the pub, long after they have left, we both must have far too much time on our hands. :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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