How Much Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Anyone know either the full or empty weight of a 6k butane bottle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 How Much??????? - 2011-05-31 12:37 PM Anyone know either the full or empty weight of a 6k butane bottle? 6kg................. :D Just thought I'd add, our new refillable 11kg Alugas bottle has 6.3kg on the side :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I didn't think you could get a 6kg butane (of any brand)? The 7kg Calor butane bottle weighs around 8kg (empty), the similar sized 6kg propane is surprisingly quoted at 7kg (empty). (full, these will obviously be 7kg and 6kg more respectively). Calor bottles have the accurate tare weight of the bottle (which may vary slightly) on the aluminium collar around the top of the bottle (but note, just to make things awkward, this is quoted in pounds and ounces). Edit for typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 The weight of the cylinder itself is marked on a stamped metal collar around the top in Ibs and oz. and varies a lot. Typically an empty standard 7 Kg butane is about 19 lbs which is approx 8.6 Kg. Then to work out the full weight it is easy. Edit - Sorry Robinhood, your post was definetly not there on my screen when I replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Brambles - 2011-05-31 1:50 PM Edit - Sorry Robinhood, your post was definetly not there on my screen when I replied. We all do it! :-) (especially when trying to help out with info) I did a similar thing (but with Derek) on a reply to a post about Camping Tyres only yesterday. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 adds to the fun of posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Just replaced my 7kg bottle this afternoon it wieghs in at 2st 6lbs or 15.5kg .. cost me £20.20 did see them at £21.65 at Morrisons petrol station yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp002c784tp002c784tp Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 ham - 2011-05-31 7:05 PM Just replaced my 7kg bottle this afternoon it wieghs in at 2st 6lbs or 15.5kg .. cost me £20.20 did see them at £21.65 at Morrisons petrol station yesterday Hi Ham If you had GASLOW it would have only cost you about 9 Quid soon pays for itself Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Our Calor 13kg propane,only cost use £25..So if you could fit one of them in,they're worth a look ..and at this price, unless your usage really warrants it(..spend months at a time abroad etc),it's probably not really worth the £150-200 outlay of a "refillable" .. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I had a price of Gaslow at the Peterborough show and it was just short of £500 and that was for 2 bottles and auto changeover valves.....I only use 1 and half bottles each year and that is on Aires in France, if i am on a site i use thier electric ., or BBQ with the small gas canister and i use 2 off them each season So with my gas i pay out around £42 A year, If i am right it would take me 13 years ro get my money back, So I decided not to bother. I may have pack up M/H by then and i could not use the Shuttle as i do not do Boats overwise i would be cruising And thats Funny as i go scuba diving But i feed the Fish first :-D :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 tp002c784tp002c784tp - 2011-05-31 7:47 PM ham - 2011-05-31 7:05 PM Just replaced my 7kg bottle this afternoon it wieghs in at 2st 6lbs or 15.5kg .. cost me £20.20 did see them at £21.65 at Morrisons petrol station yesterday Hi Ham If you had GASLOW it would have only cost you about 9 Quid soon pays for itself Terry I'm not trying to be combative here, but I can't say that I would agree with that statement (certainly not in the case of my use of gas, anyway). :-S Admittedly, I buy my propane in 13kg bottles, which works out much, much cheaper per unit than buying in 6kg bottles (and for anyone who uses 6kg bottles that could store and handle 13kg bottles, I would recommend a change - the unit price at current Calor recommended charges reduces from £3.33 per kg to £1.96 per kg). :-) I also tend to use a hook-up when I can get one, which reduces gas usage in a year, but I'm far from being tethered to electricity use - my last three nights, and my next three nights, both on entirely different sites, will be without hook-up. Your £9 quote for 6kg doesn't seem far off the current mark for LPG cost in the UK, so a 13kg (Gaslow) refill would cost me, say, £19.50 - a whole £6 below the Calor quoted 13kg refill cost (£25.49). I can also currently get these refills locally at less than £23. Frankly, at my rate of gas consumption it would take me (many) years to buy enough refills to offset the cost of the purchase and installation of a Gaslow system. I can potentially see why someone who largely avoids hook-ups, or who spends extended holidays out of the UK and thus wants the convenience of refillable bottles, would find them attractive, but I suspect there is little financial incentive for the many users who don't fit this profile, given the above "maths". Or am I missing something? Edit: Typo - and to acknowledge I don't appear to be alone B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How Much Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 ham - 2011-05-31 7:05 PM Just replaced my 7kg bottle this afternoon it wieghs in at 2st 6lbs or 15.5kg .. cost me £20.20 did see them at £21.65 at Morrisons petrol station yesterday Thanks for that, and the other replies. Couldnt remember the weight exactly - 6 or 7k butane/propane, wasnt at home to look when i asked the question. Ive had a bottle given that weighs 13.6 k, so wondered how much was in it, as i want to take it away for a week for the bbqing. Id asked for an empty one on freecycle, so i could swap it for a full one. Seems ive struck lucky! B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 How Much??????? - 2011-05-31 9:06 PM Ive had a bottle given that weighs 13.6 k, so wondered how much was in it, as i want to take it away for a week for the bbqing. Id asked for an empty one on freecycle, so i could swap it for a full one. Seems ive struck lucky! B-) .....well, that all depends on what it's got in it! 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How Much Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 Well bizarrely, im hoping a blue bottle with butane on the side, may just have butane inside it! (im pretty sure it has, as ive used it already!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 The Caravan Club's sites directory/handbook contains a wealth of information including (on page 657 of the 2011/2012 edition) a list of average weights/dimensions for the majority of LPG cylinders currently marketed by UK gas suppliers. Although it's not shown on the CC's list, apparently there is a 6kg butane container. This is Calor's specialised "BBQ Gas" bottle that (I would have thought) would be of little interest to motorcaravanners due to its limited availability. Using Imperial units to indicate a bottle's tare weight is a real irritant and I note that one of my Calor 6kg propane bottle, as well as having the usual lbs/ozs tare weight on the metal 'shroud-collar', also has its metric tare weight stamped into the side of the bottle's base. There's a lot of useful stuff in the FAQ section of Calor's website: http://www.calor.co.uk/customer-services/faqs/general-cylinder-queries/ Adapters to permit autogas-refilling of UK-standard exchange-only LPG bottles seem to be back in fashion and e-bay offers examples: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LPG-Propane-Autogas-Gas-bottle-filling-adapter-Standard-/220752355400#ht_1101wt_959 Exchange-only bottles will always remain the property of the relevant gas-supplier, so refilling them with autogas will always contravene the terms and conditions of an exchange-only bottle's hire agreement. As such bottles are not intended to be refilled by 'amateurs' and have no shut-off valve to prevent overfilling and (at least when the container is made of steel) no visual way of knowing how much LPG remains inside, particular care would need to be taken when using this type of refilling adapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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