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hi,

 

im new on here so be gentle lol,

 

i am in the process of stating my own lawn care business, i have decided what fertilisers i want to use ie spring- summer and winter feeds, also granular wetter for dry patches ect......

 

could anyone recomend a good broadleaf week killer seen the verdone extra but seems to only be sold in smallish bottles.

 

thanx for any info

 

;-)

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Have you been sent here by "lawn anoraks anonymous fellowship" :-S..................you will find plenty of fellow sufferers on here :D
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Interesting post for a first timer Ray - welcome to the madhouse - didn't you used to be in The Kinks?

 

I just want to know how you stop the flippin grass from growing so fast!

 

I've tried planting razor blades but the grass still didn't cut itself so I got a ride on lawn mower and at least I can chase the dog round the garden at the same time as cutting the grass so I don't need to take her for a walk anymore!

 

By the way I am impressed with Verdone as a lawn weedkiller - really good on dandelions, thistles and plantains and our grassy areas are much grassier and much less of a weed bed than they were in spring - although I doubt I could ever call them lawns!

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raycred - 2011-06-18 6:22 PM

 

hi,

 

im new on here so be gentle lol,

 

i am in the process of stating my own lawn care business, i have decided what fertilisers i want to use ie spring- summer and winter feeds, also granular wetter for dry patches ect......

 

could anyone recomend a good broadleaf week killer seen the verdone extra but seems to only be sold in smallish bottles.

 

thanx for any info

 

;-)

Ray,

lawn care, weed control and garden maintenance is the business that I am in, I would not recommend that you use granular treatments as they are prone to scorch your grass by spillage which is easy done.

Liquid treatments is the way to go, no fear of overdosing and upsetting your customers, there are chemicals to treat any problems that you come across but they are expensive.

I buy my chemicals in 20 ltr packs which go a hell of a long way, it also helps if you add a tracer dye in your mix so that you can see where you have treated so you dont end up with missed patches, as with all chemicals pay attention to the instructions and ALWAYS wear a good quality mask.

 

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Tracker - 2011-06-18 10:02 PM

 

Interesting post for a first timer Ray - welcome to the madhouse - didn't you used to be in The Kinks?

 

I just want to know how you stop the flippin grass from growing so fast!

 

I've tried planting razor blades but the grass still didn't cut itself so I got a ride on lawn mower and at least I can chase the dog round the garden at the same time as cutting the grass so I don't need to take her for a walk anymore!

 

By the way I am impressed with Verdone as a lawn weedkiller - really good on dandelions, thistles and plantains and our grassy areas are much grassier and much less of a weed bed than they were in spring - although I doubt I could ever call them lawns!

Richard,

You can buy a growth inhibiter to slow your grass down, you can't buy it from places like B&Q you will have to buy it from a specialist company.

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hi,

thanx for the replys ;-) .

 

malcolm,

 

thanx for the advice on the liquid treatments, i was going to use the granuals as i thought it would save all the measuring, but if it it takes away risk of overdosing think i will go that way.

 

if you dont mind me asking which liquid ones do you recomend?.

 

thanx again for the advice ;-)

 

p s great tip on the tracer dye ;-)

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raycred - 2011-06-20 3:48 PM

 

hi,

thanx for the replys ;-) .

 

malcolm,

 

thanx for the advice on the liquid treatments, i was going to use the granuals as i thought it would save all the measuring, but if it it takes away risk of overdosing think i will go that way.

 

if you dont mind me asking which liquid ones do you recomend?.

 

thanx again for the advice ;-)

 

p s great tip on the tracer dye ;-)

Ray,

I dont know how deep you are involved in the lawn care business but it is a high paying business, dont know what equipment you have either, I would advise you to use the maxicrop range of products which is a seaweed extract, I use the Maxicrop number 7 which will do all you want for lawn care treatments it costs £45.23 plus VAT for 10 ltrs but goes a long way, I use trailblaze tracer dye which tells you where you have sprayed, Cooper Pegler backpack sprayers are the best because you can fit the optional boomlance to them, Machine Mart do a pretty decent back pack sprayer for about £20 Cooper Peglers are £120.

The downside to a 15 ltr backpack sprayer is the weight, you could go the Nomix controlled droplet applicator way the one I have is the compact system, a battery operated lance with a 750 mil cartridge which will cover 750 square yrds, one handed operation and no mixing of chemicals, easy peasy and money for old rope if you are prepared to invest a bit of dosh.

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hi malcolm

 

i am bit of a novice at lawn care mostly a hobby at the moment ( do lawns for family and friends ), but i recently came across the www.lawnweedexpert.co.uk and they are offering 2 weeks training, and how best to market, ect for £3,500 a lot less than say greenthumb £31,700 + vat ( sorry for swearing lol ).

i am toying with the idea as it is eaisier to learn things when you are shown rather like me just what i read ect.

i know with the franchises you get all the marketing ect, thats whats worrying me trying to start a little business of my own then falling flat on my face on the marketing side of things.

 

thanx

 

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Having used "Greenthumb" at our last house and this one for a while, I've stopped using them as the stuff makes the grass grow so well I needed to cut 3 times a week, and as we go away alot more now B-) it became a bit of a pain *-) .....................

 

Just been away for 2 weeks and the grass wasn't that long when we got back, and they have had a lot of rain here whilst we have been away :D .............all my water butts are full.

 

Just for info..... I paid £47 for each treatment 4 times a year and we have probably less than a 1/4 of acre of grass, and it took them less then an hour ;-)

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pelmetman - 2011-06-22 6:36 PM

 

Having used "Greenthumb" at our last house and this one for a while, I've stopped using them as the stuff makes the grass grow so well I needed to cut 3 times a week, and as we go away alot more now B-) it became a bit of a pain *-) .....................

 

Just been away for 2 weeks and the grass wasn't that long when we got back, and they have had a lot of rain here whilst we have been away :D .............all my water butts are full.

 

Just for info..... I paid £47 for each treatment 4 times a year and we have probably less than a 1/4 of acre of grass, and it took them less then an hour ;-)

Dave,

Although I am in the garden maintenance business i phoned Greenthumb to come round and give me a quotation for my garden which is about a third of an acre, they quoted £40 per visit, I just wanted to pick their brains, what the guy told me was a load of rubbish, I even sent off for one of their franchise packs to see what it was all about? you gotta be kiddin.

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dave i could have mown your grass if i were nr to you, then it would have cost you £60 per visit lol

 

i have been doing a bit of market research, and there are 2 gt vans in my area they seem to be everywhere :-( but hey a bit ( or alot ) of compertition is supposed to be a good thing!.

 

do any of you guys any idea what they charge per s/m?

 

thanx (lol)

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Ray,

The best way of finding out how much GT charge is to get them round to your house to give you a quote for your own lawn, pick their brains then take it from there, for an average type lawn the charge a minimum of £15 per visit, they dont cut grass or restore neglected lawns they only work on reasonably kept lawns.

I, on the other hand work on neglected gardens with grass that can be 3' high, I do a package deal that is to say get the grass down, remove all waste to tip, treat for moss and weeds, then scarify, get the grass down to half an inch high then overseed with a fine lawn turf seed then treat with maxicrop number 6, for that package the cost is £150, if the customer wants me to do future maintenance all treatments are built in to the cost.

 

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knight of the road - 2011-06-23 8:19 AM

 

Ray,

The best way of finding out how much GT charge is to get them round to your house to give you a quote for your own lawn, pick their brains then take it from there, for an average type lawn the charge a minimum of £15 per visit, they dont cut grass or restore neglected lawns they only work on reasonably kept lawns.

I, on the other hand work on neglected gardens with grass that can be 3' high, I do a package deal that is to say get the grass down, remove all waste to tip, treat for moss and weeds, then scarify, get the grass down to half an inch high then overseed with a fine lawn turf seed then treat with maxicrop number 6, for that package the cost is £150, if the customer wants me to do future maintenance all treatments are built in to the cost.

 

I think that's a great tip from Malcolm :-D.............Offer more than "Greenthumb" ie the whole package.....and as Sir Alan would say..............that could be your USP..............A "niche" is the best place to be these days if your planning on selling anything to Joe public ;-)

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you could be right there dave with the usp offer more than gt! been looking at the "nice n stripy" website ( another franchise down south *-) they seem to have adopted to offer the customer more services, maybe thats thier way of thinking.

 

malcolm, think i will get gt round and pick their brains, but i will get plenty of questions ready to hit him with 1st. malcolm do you know if you have to pay for a waste carrier cert ?

 

thanx

 

ray

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knight of the road - 2011-06-22 9:24 PM

Dave,

Although I am in the garden maintenance business i phoned Greenthumb to come round and give me a quotation for my garden which is about a third of an acre, they quoted £40 per visit, I just wanted to pick their brains, what the guy told me was a load of rubbish, I even sent off for one of their franchise packs to see what it was all about? you gotta be kiddin.

 

Your right Malcolm, after a while I realised I new more about grass then Mr GT 8-) ..............

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raycred - 2011-06-23 6:54 PM

 

you could be right there dave with the usp offer more than gt! been looking at the "nice n stripy" website ( another franchise down south *-) they seem to have adopted to offer the customer more services, maybe thats thier way of thinking.

 

malcolm, think i will get gt round and pick their brains, but i will get plenty of questions ready to hit him with 1st. malcolm do you know if you have to pay for a waste carrier cert ?

 

thanx

 

ray

 

As for marketing, I would suggest you start by finding the posh neighbour hoods and just doing a leaflet drop which will cost pence compared to advertizing, once you get your foot in the door and you provide a good reliable!! service then you will find word of mouth is the most effective means of advertizing ;-)

 

I speak from experience having started several small niche market businesses :D ............unfortunately I have a hang up about employing staff so have never expanded :$ ................If you have kids then thats the best way to build an empire......................breed your own staff (lol) (lol)

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knight of the road - 2011-06-23 8:41 PM

 

This poxy group is playing up, it wont submit?

 

That one did :D :D

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