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well. its that time of year again. when terry wigon dusts off his expensive suit, grabs a blank BBC expenses form, and presents a night of "sacharine" entertainment in aid of children in needif it's people ratting boxes wanting you to buy a poppy. it's some gimp dressed as a YELLOW BEAR wanting your dosh. no doubt it wont be wrong before theyre selling RED BLOODY NOSES for a quid a piecei have just had to watch the "stars" of DIY SOS arsing about in aid of charity. and now i am having to listen to that ginger nut CHRIS BLOODY EVANSCHILDREN in NEED is all very well. but to be honest do we really NEED more CHILDREN. it only encourages paedophilia. we wouldn't have any nonces if it wasnt for CHILDREN! do the fecking math sparkynow sod off. and leave me alone
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I took part in Children in Need some years ago when "Jailbreaks" were organised from a local town where you had to get as far away as possible and you were sponsored per mile.

 

We had people getting as low as possible - a mine in Wales I think, and as high as possible - the Eifel Tower. The winner for the furthest was a guy who managed to blag a ride with Air Canada to Toronto.

 

That was fine but he had trouble getting back! - took him nearly a week of hanging round the airport waiting for a free seat (lol) (lol) (lol) - more difficult because he had taken a bucket to collect change and had a load of coins of all currencies that he had to lug around.

 

I do not watch it as it is very "samey" now - but I wish it well and give to collectors in the street or wherever.

 

It does no harm and an awful lot of good.

 

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If you look really closely you'll see there are some very tiny words hidden in the title that clarify the whole situation. Take a magnifying glass and you'll see it actually reads:

 

CHILDREN are an excellent way for D list has-been celebrities IN NEED of a career lift to get some exposure on the telly. ;-)

 

Generally the ones most in need are those who are outside the exclusive groups being campaigned for. We have campaigns exclusively for the young, the old, and those with particular medical conditions, but the ones most destitute and living on the street (until they die of hypothermia sometimes) are usually single middle aged who fall outside those exclusive groups. Several of the overnight homeless shelters have already closed since these people make much softer targets for spending cuts. We don't see Terry WigOn collecting for them as they are not so photogenic as children.

 

Its easier to get sponsorship for a football club than a homeless people's hostel, because the sponsors are looking at what they can get out of it themselves.

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I totally agree with Peter's last post regarding people living on the streets.

 

I am probably very selfish saying this but I have had Chronic Leukaemia since 1992, there is no cure but can be treated and I have never had any help or counselling. There are always Charity drives for Children with Leukaemia, Breast Cancer etc but never anything for the hundreds of thousands of people like me who have a terminal ilness albeit can be put into remission with ongoing bouts of Chemotherapy every couple of years. This disease affects the whole of the family because it can turn Acute at any time and puts an enormous amount of stress on the family.

 

I have had my say so I will now shut up.

 

Sylvia

 

 

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No I don't think you are being selfish Sylvia, you make a perfectly valid point about these collections for exclusive groups.

Its remarkable that those who are so keen to associate themselves with children in need often seem to be in favour of taking away benefits from those who most need it.

 

I've just been reading the case of the guy who was denied a crisis loan, and totally destitute went out to mug someone. Unfortunatey his victim turned out to be a spirited little woman who fought back ferociously, it got out of hand, and he killed her. :-(

 

Not condoning that of course. But is't there a bit more to it than the simplistic gutter press headlines of him murdering her for £10, or whatever it was?

 

At any rate the benefit clerk jobsworth who denied him the crisis loan certainly hasn't saved the taxpayer any money.

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I haven't watched it in years.

 

The local news programs, in the run-up to the event, spend a lot of time showing where last years monies went and in some cases I do feel that it was undeserved a bit like the politically motivated lottery handouts.

 

I agree that there are other deserving causes but the thing that gets me about this in particular is the intimidation that occurs on the day in the street. There are usually so many groups in the High Street and motorway services etc rattling the tins and if you refuse they can get quite nasty. It isn't a pleasant experience for many people.

 

I've nothing against the usual charity collectors because most are extremely polite and non-pushy.

 

Now this grumpy old woman has had her rant she'll go do some shopping.

 

;-)

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Peter James - 2011-11-19 10:52 AM  and totally destitute went out to mug someone. Unfortunatey his victim turned out to be a spirited little woman who fought back ferociously, it got out of hand, and he killed her. :-( Not condoning that of course. But is't there a bit more to it than the simplistic gutter press headlines of him murdering her for £10, or whatever it was?At any rate the benefit clerk jobsworth who denied him the crisis loan certainly hasn't saved the taxpayer any money.
Unfortunately he's not going to end up swinging, and save us all a few quid;-)..........I am obviously not as understanding as you Peter:D..........But there again if I was totally destitute, I doubt I would use it as an excuse to mug and murder someone*-).....
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pelmetman - 2011-11-19 12:20 PM

But there again if I was totally destitute, I doubt I would use it as an excuse to mug and murder someone*-).....

I don't think murder was intended. I think he only wanted some money (and she looked as though she had got plenty) but she fought back with full force and he responded with full force.

 

But whatever.

 

How can we say what we would do if totally destitute, when we have never been totally destitute?

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Peter James - 2011-11-19 1:08 PM How can we say what we would do if totally destitute, when we have never been totally destitute?
Can you clarify what you mean by totally destitute Peter?;-)........Does not being prepared to wait for your next benefit cheque qualify?:D............Destitution looks like its a much more comfortable experience in this country, when compared to say Africa*-)

I surprised anyone can try to use such an excuse to justify a murder8-)   
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pelmetman - 2011-11-19 1:35 PM

I surprised anyone can try to use such an excuse to justify a murder8-)   

 

Where did I say it justifies murder?

I specifically said I don't believe murder was intentional, only theft from someone apparently wealthy, and in any case I don't condone it.

But I can see your point of view because you obviously have no idea what 'totally destitute' is.

So you cannot know what you would do in that situation.

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I don't know how bad or good or mediocre the BBC 1 rendition was this year - same as I don't know how good or bad it was last year - or any other year come to that!

 

I can't stand the audience mmanipulation and all the pointless hysteria of shouting and screaming!

 

I must be very very lucky - I have a TV with a remote control more than one channel so I get to choose which crud I watch!

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But, are you not all saying the same (unspoken) thing?

 

All these charity beanos raise huge sums of money for their various causes. I hate them all with a vengeance, but it is screamingly obvious that many think them highly entertaining and worthy.

 

So, to me (and it seems to you lot too! :-)), it just amplifies how different from the masses I really am. This is at one and the same time strangely, but disconcertingly, reassuring, but also very unsettling, because it forces me to recognise what an appalling bunch of morons most of my fellow country-folk really are!

 

This feeling is made even worse if I stop to consider they they, like me, have only one vote, and are almost certainly responsible for selecting our governments, and guiding their policies through focus groups and the like.

 

So there you have it. We are just infinitely superior beings! :-) On the other hand, however, it seems it is the morons who raise the money for good causes. Did I get that right? Oh dear! Why is nothing simple any more? :-D

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Ah but Brian - what proof do you have that the people to whom this type of TV appeals are capable of making a political choice and of casting a vote!

 

It seems to me that it is politically correct at the moment to hate capitalism so the mindless ones do just that - without giving any thought as to what generated the wealth to give them their posh TVs, smartphones, Ipads, games consoles etc etc.

 

At least if true socialism reigned we would indeed all be equal - we would all have bugger all!

 

Apart from those deemed to be more equal than the rest which would be party officials instead of bankers. Pluc ca change!

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Brian Kirby - 2011-11-19 3:30 PM

 

But, are you not all saying the same (unspoken) thing?

 

All these charity beanos raise huge sums of money for their various causes. I hate them all with a vengeance, but it is screamingly obvious that many think them highly entertaining and worthy.

 

So, to me (and it seems to you lot too! :-)), it just amplifies how different from the masses I really am. This is at one and the same time strangely, but disconcertingly, reassuring, but also very unsettling, because it forces me to recognise what an appalling bunch of morons most of my fellow country-folk really are!

 

This feeling is made even worse if I stop to consider they they, like me, have only one vote, and are almost certainly responsible for selecting our governments, and guiding their policies through focus groups and the like.

 

So there you have it. We are just infinitely superior beings! :-) On the other hand, however, it seems it is the morons who raise the money for good causes. Did I get that right? Oh dear! Why is nothing simple any more? :-D

 

 

 

I'm not sure that I'd say people who like these kind of programmes are all morons. There just seem to be an awful lot of people who enjoy what I consider to be awful TV.

 

I would never watch X factor or that dancing programme( with the very strange name ), and you would have to pay me to watch Wogan.

 

But we all have a choice - mine is not to watch them.

 

 

 

(lol)

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Peter James - 2011-11-19 10:52 AM  and totally destitute went out to mug someone. Unfortunatey his victim turned out to be a spirited little woman who fought back ferociously, it got out of hand, and he killed her. :-( Not condoning that of course. But is't there a bit more to it than the simplistic gutter press headlines of him murdering her for £10, or whatever it was?At any rate the benefit clerk jobsworth who denied him the crisis loan certainly hasn't saved the taxpayer any money.
Unfortunately he's not going to end up swinging, and save us all a few quid;-)..........I am obviously not as understanding as you Peter:D..........But there again if I was totally destitute, I doubt I would use it as an excuse to mug and murder someone*-).....

 

I don't think you fully understand pelmetman.

If that nasty jobworth had handed over the cash that lady would probably be alive today. She also must take some of the blame for her own death by dressing smartly and giving the impression she was well off *-) The gutter press doesn't help according to Peter James by stating she died for £10 which cheaped her life. Nasty jobsworth and gutter press. Shame on them.

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Lord Braykewynde - 2011-11-19 5:23 PM I don't think you fully understand pelmetman.If that nasty jobworth had handed over the cash that lady would probably be alive today. She also must take some of the blame for her own death by dressing smartly and giving the impression she was well off *-) The gutter press doesn't help according to Peter James by stating she died for £10 which cheaped her life. Nasty jobsworth and gutter press. Shame on them.
Oh..... I see your Lordship;-) it was that stupid bloody women's fault for looking as if she had a few bob, and not handing it straight over to the....... true victim8-)..........the poor hard done by waste of space who's ineffectual life is all our fault...............*-)   
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Tracker - 2011-11-19 3:46 PM

 

Ah but Brian - what proof do you have that the people to whom this type of TV appeals are capable of making a political choice and of casting a vote!

You really need proof!! :-) Just look at the nutters some of them have elected!

 

Our MP, BTW, is an excellent chap. But what would you expect? :-)

 

It seems to me that it is politically correct at the moment to hate capitalism so the mindless ones do just that - without giving any thought as to what generated the wealth to give them their posh TVs, smartphones, Ipads, games consoles etc etc.

 

But, if you listen to what they are really saying, they do not hate capitalism, indeed many proclaim that capitalism, managed properly, is a force for good. Their arguments are being distorted by those they are criticising, rather than being answered. That gives a nice - dumbed down for the public (i.e the morons :-)) - reason to get rid of them. What they disagree with is the way capitalism has over recent years become more and more self serving and extreme, because it has been managed badly. I think they mostly are far from mindless, although some undoubtedly are just the standard anti-everything taggers-on.

 

To operate properly, to the reasonable benefit of all, markets have to be managed. Labour just put the lunatics in charge of the asylum, which is largely why we now have economic bedlam!

 

At least if true socialism reigned we would indeed all be equal - we would all have bugger all!

I could take issue with that, too, at a philosophical level, but fear it would be wasted! :-D

 

Apart from those deemed to be more equal than the rest which would be party officials instead of bankers. Pluc ca change!

Eh??! Can I have some of whatever you're drinking too? :-D

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Lord Braykewynde - 2011-11-19 5:23 PM

 

pelmetman - 2011-11-19 12:20 PM

 

Peter James - 2011-11-19 10:52 AM  and totally destitute went out to mug someone. Unfortunatey his victim turned out to be a spirited little woman who fought back ferociously, it got out of hand, and he killed her. :-( Not condoning that of course. But is't there a bit more to it than the simplistic gutter press headlines of him murdering her for £10, or whatever it was?At any rate the benefit clerk jobsworth who denied him the crisis loan certainly hasn't saved the taxpayer any money.
Unfortunately he's not going to end up swinging, and save us all a few quid;-)..........I am obviously not as understanding as you Peter:D..........But there again if I was totally destitute, I doubt I would use it as an excuse to mug and murder someone*-).....

 

I don't think you fully understand pelmetman.

If that nasty jobworth had handed over the cash that lady would probably be alive today. She also must take some of the blame for her own death by dressing smartly and giving the impression she was well off *-) The gutter press doesn't help according to Peter James by stating she died for £10 which cheaped her life. Nasty jobsworth and gutter press. Shame on them.

I have never read such utter drivel that the lady must take some blame for her death by dressing smartly and giving the impression that she was well off? b*****ks Peter, so by your reasoning does your wife if you have one, dress like a bag lady?

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rupert123 - 2011-11-19 4:08 PM

 

B****r all charity, it certainly begins at home for me. Can you believe my winter fuel allowance does not even cover my ski lift pass now, can I apply for an increase?

 

Stick around Henry. You'll get one once you're too old to ski! At least, you will if some of this lot remain suitably ineffectual! I think you'll be pretty safe. :-)

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knight of the road - 2011-11-19 5:43 PM

 

Lord Braykewynde - 2011-11-19 5:23 PM

 

pelmetman - 2011-11-19 12:20 PM

 

Peter James - 2011-11-19 10:52 AM  and totally destitute went out to mug someone. Unfortunatey his victim turned out to be a spirited little woman who fought back ferociously, it got out of hand, and he killed her. :-( Not condoning that of course. But is't there a bit more to it than the simplistic gutter press headlines of him murdering her for £10, or whatever it was?At any rate the benefit clerk jobsworth who denied him the crisis loan certainly hasn't saved the taxpayer any money.
Unfortunately he's not going to end up swinging, and save us all a few quid;-)..........I am obviously not as understanding as you Peter:D..........But there again if I was totally destitute, I doubt I would use it as an excuse to mug and murder someone*-).....

 

I don't think you fully understand pelmetman.

If that nasty jobworth had handed over the cash that lady would probably be alive today. She also must take some of the blame for her own death by dressing smartly and giving the impression she was well off *-) The gutter press doesn't help according to Peter James by stating she died for £10 which cheaped her life. Nasty jobsworth and gutter press. Shame on them.

I have never read such utter drivel that the lady must take some blame for her death by dressing smartly and giving the impression that she was well off? b*****ks Peter, so by your reasoning does your wife if you have one, dress like a bag lady?

 

Calm down Malcolm

 

I think he was just attempting heavy irony!

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rupert123 - 2011-11-19 4:08 PM

 

B****r all charity, it certainly begins at home for me. Can you believe my winter fuel allowance does not even cover my ski lift pass now, can I apply for an increase?

 

 

There am I, annoyed because they've moved the goalposts on when I get my 'bus pass, and he wants a free ski-lift pass! >:-)

 

Bl**dy baby-boomers.

 

;-)

 

 

(Anyhow, given the current campaign on fual allowance, shouldn't you be giving your lift-pass to some old biddy in a blanket) B-)

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