mike 202 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 As I have recently decided to keep my A/S Windsor Coachbuilt on Mk7 Ford Transit, for a few more years, 06/08 reg, I am seriously thinking of getting it rustproofed. MMM Dec 2011 page165 has reviewed four professional installers, but as appropriate for a magazine Not made ant recommendations. My instinct is to go for Before 'N' After with their column lifts. Has anyone on the forum had their motorhome rustproofed, or know of a friends experience ? Thanks mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek pringle Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Hi Mike, pm me and I will send you details, and I have no connection with any company. cheers derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel64 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I had my motorhome rustproofed by Rust Master good price and good job. Can`t say any more than that. His add is in MMM`s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobalobs Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Have had two vans treated by Phil Lewis at Rustbusters the last being in 2011 and more than happy with him. Premises not flash nor are his adverts ( ! ) but thorough job and he does have a vehicle lift but I think there is a 24 foot vehicle limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek pringle Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Hi Mike, I have pm'd you. In the meantime look at their website ' Rustproof ' absolutely great service. cheers derek outbox on messenger seems to be taking ages, any probs. d.pringle01@blueyonder.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike 202 Posted November 21, 2011 Author Share Posted November 21, 2011 Thank you all for your replies and advice, it is good to get recommends and gives me peace of mind when I get it done. regards mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillking Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 A wise move. I decided to have mine done as from new - but it took me nearly ten years to get round to it! By then the front sills were starting to go and I had to get some welding done before the treatment. I used before-n-after and have slightly mixed feelings about them. The job was good but the experience was distinctly home spun enthusiast rather than based on the slicker business practices that we're now all used to. Have another read of their literature and try to see past the enthusiasm. It may still suit as may the price but worth knowing what you're getting into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 derek pringle - 2011-11-21 1:43 PM Hi Mike, I have pm'd you. In the meantime look at their website ' Rustproof ' absolutely great service. cheers derek outbox on messenger seems to be taking ages, any probs. d.pringle01@blueyonder.co.uk Derek Just in case you are unaware of this... When you PM someone, your message is placed in your Outbox. It will stay in your Outbox until the recipient notices it in his/her Inbox and reads your PM, at which point the message will move to your 'Sent Items' file. If the intended recipient fails to read your PM (due to he/she having been abducted by aliens, having lost all interest in this forum, knowing it will annoy you, etc.) then your message will stay in your Outbox indefinitely unless you delete it. I notice that I have a PM in my Inbox dated 2010-08-09 and, having checked, find that the intended recipient last logged on to this forum in 2010-08-06. Perhaps I'll delete it !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek pringle Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Thanks very much Derek. I am still finding my way with forum and its protocol. cheers derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art338 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 As a centuries old metal worker with long spells in the automotive industry including Ford at Halewood & Toyota at Burnaston, I would not be in favour of having any rust proofing done unless the vehicle is new and unused. Any bare steel that has been exposed to dampness will begin the corrosion process immediately it sniffs a drop of moisture. Painted surfaces are not immune from corrosion either. Steels vary in their makeup. A chassis and general metalwork is basic material and contains a high proportion of iron and therefore prone to corrosion very quickly, unless already treated. And don’t forget any hollow components can corrode from the inside!! Parts such as steering arms (linkage components) are made from a higher grade of steel and will contain chromium and may never corrode. Like many aspects of daily inconvenience ‘rust proofing’ is impossible to evaluate, it is the old story ‘yer pays yer money and …’ art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Hi, had my 2005 Autocruise done by 'Before N after' last November, as I too intend to keep it for a few years. Got an 'unusual' Honda courtesy car for the day,very nice car ! very pleased with the result, very well 'covered' underneath, some 'overspray' needed cleaning off later,but that was to be expected. An 'Honest' report on chassis condition before work was started, mine was OK. I ignored Chris's advice and slept in mine the night after it was 'done' , NOT to be recommended ! even with extractor fan running and windows open it wasn't very nice ! To spray 'Waxoyl' it needs to be mixed with white spirit, and BOY does that stuff smell !! I can't think why other 'Vendors' of the service don't mention the fact that the van REALLY shouldn't be slept in for at LEAST a week after the treatment ?? Chris is very friendly, (if a bit eccentric ?? must be all that white spirit !! :D ) and I recommend the service that he provides. Obviously i can't speak for the others. Ray Regarding the 'above', Chris sprays into Chassis and body box sections so all bare metal is covered, 'cause he showed me 'how'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebishbus Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 From my own personal experience I have found that Waxoyl works very well .Over the years I have used it on various vehicles and found it very effective at stopping rust, take our current motorhome as an example. It spent the first few years of its life in the salty atmosphere of Skegness. The rusty underside nearly put me off buying it, but my wife really liked it, so we bought it. I wire brushed off as much rust as possible, then saturated the underside with Waxoyl, it does not seem to have deteriorated at all since then. I would recommend having it wax protected no matter how old it is. Brian B. ps it appears that the Waxoyl soaks into the rust, and stops it in its tracks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 art338 - 2011-11-22 3:23 PM As a centuries old metal worker with long spells in the automotive industry including Ford at Halewood & Toyota at Burnaston, I would not be in favour of having any rust proofing done unless the vehicle is new and unused. Any bare steel that has been exposed to dampness will begin the corrosion process immediately it sniffs a drop of moisture. Painted surfaces are not immune from corrosion either. Steels vary in their makeup. A chassis and general metalwork is basic material and contains a high proportion of iron and therefore prone to corrosion very quickly, unless already treated. And don’t forget any hollow components can corrode from the inside!! Parts such as steering arms (linkage components) are made from a higher grade of steel and will contain chromium and may never corrode. Like many aspects of daily inconvenience ‘rust proofing’ is impossible to evaluate, it is the old story ‘yer pays yer money and …’ art So, are you advocating that we just let our motorhome corrode away?. Any wax applied at any time will slow down or stop corrosion. For steel to corrode it needs oxygen and an electrolite. Water will do, especially if it contains salt. Take away one of these components and corrosion will cease. That's what the waxoyl treatment does, by covering the metal with a shield of wax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhorsf Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Before n after has a very good name among different groups ie; motorhomes classic cars etc.http://www.before-n-after.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art338 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Peter, No I'm not saying don't use any rustproofing method, I'm posting a comment only on metal types. There are many factors covering corrosion such as where the vehicle is used and how often. I'm one of life's fine weather users who does'nt live near the sea and checks the weather pattern before driving. I have no experience on assessing long term exposure to metal that has been treated with waxol, in theory it sounds perfect, the only long term answer would be a breakers yard and I've not worked in one as yet. I do have lots of experience on alloys exposed to the weather, particularlly on motorcycle repairs. The nearest example I can provide regarding corrosion is that the metal interior is like a rabbit warren or woodworm once it starts, (often referred to as the 'metal worm') art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chloe MMM Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Hi everyone, I've just uploaded the rust-proofing feature from the December 2011 issue to our website. For those who haven't already read it, take a look here: http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/Motorhomes/Features/Editorial/Guide-to-rust-proofing/_ch1_ft711 Thanks, Chloë Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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