nightrider Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 This is the time of the year to check out the security to you garden sheds and garages, lots off goodies in there that can end up on a carboot if you are not careful. valuable items sometimes only protected by a cheap lock and door hinges, having fell foul of an opportunist night prowler a couple of years ago my security is as good as you will get it, aided by 24 hour CCTV and of course good security lighting. PS if you have an outside garden tap either insulate it or turn off the valve indoors to save you from a hefty plumbers bill if we have a hard frost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Totally agree, many sheds are easily broken into. Fortunately we have a breeze-block and brick workshop (think mini-bungalow!) with good quality Yale deadlock plus a Security 4 rating padlock for good measure, the windows are curtained/obscured so you can't peer in either. We also have a good chain and padlock on our large wooden drive gate to deter anyone just 'sneaking' in through it, and also have a padlock on our side pedestrian gate too, so anyone wanting to get in would have to climb over the 6ft fence! I suggest that people take a good walk round their garden and see where the 'risk' areas are - broken fence panels allowing people to pull them off to gain entry/exit to your garden or see through. Steps, tables and chairs etc left lying around allowing theives to use them for a 'leg up' to get through windows, or to break windows etc with. Basically, put everything away that you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThornber Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Good security lighting? Excellent means for the opportunist thief to see what they're breaking into and choosing from their spoils. Who says? The Police no less, read on. I know a widow who lives alone in a large detached house. She has the absolute dogs doodahs of CCTV. Multiple colour motorised cameras and enough floodlighting to film an episode of Corrie. She had the local Police around to assess her security and they made it clear to her that whilst what she'd had installed, (at a cost of well over £3000), was very sensible it wouldn't deter an opportunist thief or someone who's desperate. Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 At homes we have have good quality locks on sheds and alarms. At work gf has high security against thiefs, including security gaurds! She has not lost any tools, but has had satute and koi nicked, all on CCTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 LordThornber - 2011-12-17 6:36 PM Good security lighting? Excellent means for the opportunist thief to see what they're breaking into and choosing from their spoils. Who says? The Police no less, read on. I know a widow who lives alone in a large detached house. She has the absolute dogs doodahs of CCTV. Multiple colour motorised cameras and enough floodlighting to film an episode of Corrie. She had the local Police around to assess her security and they made it clear to her that whilst what she'd had installed, (at a cost of well over £3000), was very sensible it wouldn't deter an opportunist thief or someone who's desperate. Martyn Martyn, There are two trains of thought here, two things a thief does not like is light and noise, the most desperate thief is the druggie trying to nick something to sell and feed his habit therefore he will take exceptional risks, the more professional type thief wants a quick in and out in the least possible time and if he is confronted with good security he will look for easy pickings such as your next door neighbour. After one of my store sheds was broken into (my fault) and I lost 2 grands worth of gear, so it was a case of set a thief to catch a thief, words to that effect. I burnt the midnight oil and devised my own security system which works very well, rather proud of it in fact, we have had a couple of attacks which defeated them but no more since, what I think happens is that the villains pass the word round, dont try that house, too secure, nobody gets on my patch without me knowing, my perimeter security is first class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leake Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 We have top rate security on the house and work shop but I agree parameter security is the first and possibly best line of defence. Just to provide a bit of amusement, though I did not find it so at the time. We do have a very complex security system which I was showing our cat how to use, seemed a good idea at the time, using her paws to push the buttons. I've no idea what she did wrong but it screwed the system up so badly that I could not reset the system. Like I said it was a complex system and to make it more robust I had installed two extra back up batteries (seemed a good idea at the time). So there I was, at nearly midnight, climbing up into the loft to disconnect the first then getting the ladders out to reach the bell box where I had installed the second so that I could disconnect that and finally mute the system. I could do no more at that time of night so we went to bed only to be woken up by the police. It seems the autodial system (something else that seemed a good idea at the time) had done it's job despite the CPU being knocked out. Next morning I toddled off to buy a new control box which was not compatable with the original which meant I needed to rework the circuits. Now this would not have been difficult had it not been for the fact that to make the original system more tamper resistant I switched the wire colours away from standard. Yes I know (may have seemed a good idea at the time). Happily after a frustrating days work I got it all up and running again. My advice to cat owners. Just don't even think about it even if does seem a good idea at the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Colin Leake - 2011-12-17 8:04 PM We have top rate security on the house and work shop but I agree parameter security is the first and possibly best line of defence. Seems a bit extravagant to me, Colin. Surely a sign on the gate saying "Beware of the Bear" would have a sufficiently deterrent effect. ;-) ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 We screw our gates shut when we go away............................. and get Troy to leave land mines on the lawn :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leake Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Robinhood - 2011-12-17 8:09 PM Colin Leake - 2011-12-17 8:04 PM We have top rate security on the house and work shop but I agree parameter security is the first and possibly best line of defence. Seems a bit extravagant to me, Colin. Surely a sign on the gate saying "Beware of the Bear" would have a sufficiently deterrent effect. ;-) ;-) The Bear has asked me to wish all his followers a happy Christmas and new year. I do admit to having a tendency to get a bit carried away when I start on a project. You should see the back up mains wiring system we have to use in the event of a power cut. Or the system for recovering and using the rain water from our roof. Mind you given that we have a water meter that one has saved us a fortune over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankkia Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Years ago my brother was a teacher in a rather rough city school. After many break ins by the kids who set fire to classrooms and storage areas the school had a state of the art security and video system installed. Took the kids 2 days before they managed to break in and nick the cameras and video equipment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Colin Leake - 2011-12-17 9:25 PM Robinhood - 2011-12-17 8:09 PM Colin Leake - 2011-12-17 8:04 PM We have top rate security on the house and work shop but I agree parameter security is the first and possibly best line of defence. Seems a bit extravagant to me, Colin. Surely a sign on the gate saying "Beware of the Bear" would have a sufficiently deterrent effect. ;-) ;-) The Bear has asked me to wish all his followers a happy Christmas and new year. I forgot about the bear .... is he still living in your motorhome garage? :D For anyone who wants to know what we're on about read this thread ... http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=21557&start=91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly58 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 My .22 rifle with silencer and powerfull scope will stop most intruders running away at a great distance a nice leg shot will slow them down now we are allowed to use whatever means within reason to protect our property and family. O what joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leake Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Mel B - 2011-12-18 4:44 PM Colin Leake - 2011-12-17 9:25 PM Robinhood - 2011-12-17 8:09 PM Colin Leake - 2011-12-17 8:04 PM We have top rate security on the house and work shop but I agree parameter security is the first and possibly best line of defence. Seems a bit extravagant to me, Colin. Surely a sign on the gate saying "Beware of the Bear" would have a sufficiently deterrent effect. ;-) ;-) The Bear has asked me to wish all his followers a happy Christmas and new year. I forgot about the bear .... is he still living in your motorhome garage? :D For anyone who wants to know what we're on about read this thread ... http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=21557&start=91 He only lives there when we are travelling. He has his own luxury quarters when we are at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Colin Leake - 2011-12-19 5:14 PM Mel B - 2011-12-18 4:44 PM Colin Leake - 2011-12-17 9:25 PM Robinhood - 2011-12-17 8:09 PM Colin Leake - 2011-12-17 8:04 PM We have top rate security on the house and work shop but I agree parameter security is the first and possibly best line of defence. Seems a bit extravagant to me, Colin. Surely a sign on the gate saying "Beware of the Bear" would have a sufficiently deterrent effect. ;-) ;-) The Bear has asked me to wish all his followers a happy Christmas and new year. I forgot about the bear .... is he still living in your motorhome garage? :D For anyone who wants to know what we're on about read this thread ... http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=21557&start=91 He only lives there when we are travelling. He has his own luxury quarters when we are at home. Oh, I see, more than the 'bear neccessities" then! :D (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliB Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Frankkia - 2011-12-17 10:59 PM Years ago my brother was a teacher in a rather rough city school. After many break ins by the kids who set fire to classrooms and storage areas the school had a state of the art security and video system installed. Took the kids 2 days before they managed to break in and nick the cameras and video equipment! Not state of the art security then. The recording equipment should have been installed in a Video Safe. Anti-vandal cameras properly installed are very difficult to remove. Couple the system to a monitoring station with 2 way audio and you getting near to state of the art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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