Guest pelmetman Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Brian Kirby - 2011-12-18 6:31 PM It is a thoroughly nasty, partial, spinning, unbalanced, little rag, that leaves aside any facts that get in the way of its editorial prejudices, and so distorts news for a mainly unthinking, politically biased, readership. Apart from that, it is an excellent journal! :-) A pretty apt description of every paper I've happened to of found ;-)..............Kinda depends on who's spin you prefer to read.......................but over the years I've decided that paper reading has a lot to do with ego's 8-)...........It's like a defining of who you are, if your working class then you'd pick up the Sun or Mirror, if your a toff then you pick up the Telegraph or Times...............................but if your ego is greater than your wallet you would buy the Guardian (lol) (lol) Oh forgot the middle classes..............Mail and Express :D Personally I prefer the local rags and BBC news although that is so PC biased I expect it to disappear up its own PC orifice any day soon (lol) (lol)
nightrider Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 pelmetman - 2011-12-18 8:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2011-12-18 6:31 PM It is a thoroughly nasty, partial, spinning, unbalanced, little rag, that leaves aside any facts that get in the way of its editorial prejudices, and so distorts news for a mainly unthinking, politically biased, readership. Apart from that, it is an excellent journal! :-) A pretty apt description of every paper I've happened to of found ;-)..............Kinda depends on who's spin you prefer to read.......................but over the years I've decided that paper reading has a lot to do with ego's 8-)...........It's like a defining of who you are, if your working class then you'd pick up the Sun or Mirror, if your a toff then you pick up the Telegraph or Times...............................but if your ego is greater than your wallet you would buy the Guardian (lol) (lol) So true Dave, how many of these so called toffs go to their office with their sandwiches in their briefcase and a copy of the Times tucked under their arm, I subscribe to the Mail purely and simply to get my daily fix of Garfield the cat.
Guest Tracker Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Going off topic like that is something you should all be thoroughly ashamed of and it's a good job the Topic Police are not on patrol tonight or you would all be told that you are very naughty boys and made to sit on the naughty step. As you all know I speak from a position of superiority here as I would never dream of moving off topic on such a seriously important subject of how to survive come the revolution! Now where's my AK47 - and who is to be first against the wall - can't think of anyone right now - any ideas boys (and girls).
Gwendolyn Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 pelmetman - 2011-12-18 8:22 PM Brian Kirby - 2011-12-18 6:31 PM It is a thoroughly nasty, partial, spinning, unbalanced, little rag, that leaves aside any facts that get in the way of its editorial prejudices, and so distorts news for a mainly unthinking, politically biased, readership. Apart from that, it is an excellent journal! :-) A pretty apt description of every paper I've happened to of found ;-)..............Kinda depends on who's spin you prefer to read.......................but over the years I've decided that paper reading has a lot to do with ego's 8-)...........It's like a defining of who you are, if your working class then you'd pick up the Sun or Mirror, if your a toff then you pick up the Telegraph or Times...............................but if your ego is greater than your wallet you would buy the Guardian (lol) (lol) Oh forgot the middle classes..............Mail and Express :D Personally I prefer the local rags and BBC news although that is so PC biased I expect it to disappear up its own PC orifice any day soon (lol) (lol) Really? For trenchant political commentary I read “Woman and Home”; for the Arts, “The Beano”; for powerful investigative journalism, the “Tenby Observer” and for enlightenment, “The Lady”. For a left wing perspective, I study “The Spectator” and I mourn the decline of the “Daily Sport”. For totally balanced reporting you cannot do better than the “Daily Heil” [sorry, typo .. Mail] – Mein Kampfing favourite!
Robinhood Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:43 PM Really? For trenchant political commentary I read “Woman and Home”; for the Arts, “The Beano”; for powerful investigative journalism, the “Tenby Observer” and for enlightenment, “The Lady”. For a left wing perspective, I study “The Spectator” and I mourn the decline of the “Daily Sport”. For totally balanced reporting you cannot do better than the “Daily Heil” [sorry, typo .. Mail] – Mein Kampfing favourite! ......and I'm sure you must top it up with a bit of news from the British Broadcasting Conspiracy. ;-)
Guest pelmetman Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:43 PM Really? For trenchant political commentary I read “Woman and Home”; for the Arts, “The Beano”; for powerful investigative journalism, the “Tenby Observer” and for enlightenment, “The Lady”. For a left wing perspective, I study “The Spectator” and I mourn the decline of the “Daily Sport”. For totally balanced reporting you cannot do better than the “Daily Heil” [sorry, typo .. Mail] – Mein Kampfing favourite! Anything interesting in the Guardian today Gwendolyn? :D
Gwendolyn Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Robinhood - 2011-12-18 9:49 PM Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:43 PM Really? For trenchant political commentary I read “Woman and Home”; for the Arts, “The Beano”; for powerful investigative journalism, the “Tenby Observer” and for enlightenment, “The Lady”. For a left wing perspective, I study “The Spectator” and I mourn the decline of the “Daily Sport”. For totally balanced reporting you cannot do better than the “Daily Heil” [sorry, typo .. Mail] – Mein Kampfing favourite! ......and I'm sure you must top it up with a bit of news from the British Broadcasting Conspiracy. ;-) BBC??? Not familiar with that. Do you mean, by any chance, the EBC??? The English Broadcasting Conspiracy?
Gwendolyn Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 pelmetman - 2011-12-18 9:51 PM Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:43 PM Really? For trenchant political commentary I read “Woman and Home”; for the Arts, “The Beano”; for powerful investigative journalism, the “Tenby Observer” and for enlightenment, “The Lady”. For a left wing perspective, I study “The Spectator” and I mourn the decline of the “Daily Sport”. For totally balanced reporting you cannot do better than the “Daily Heil” [sorry, typo .. Mail] – Mein Kampfing favourite! Anything interesting in the Guardian today Gwendolyn? :D ERM.. no, of course not...... It is not published on a Sunday. Goodness... I know not what to think, about anything, until tomorrow morning.
Robinhood Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:52 PM Robinhood - 2011-12-18 9:49 PM Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:43 PM Really? For trenchant political commentary I read “Woman and Home”; for the Arts, “The Beano”; for powerful investigative journalism, the “Tenby Observer” and for enlightenment, “The Lady”. For a left wing perspective, I study “The Spectator” and I mourn the decline of the “Daily Sport”. For totally balanced reporting you cannot do better than the “Daily Heil” [sorry, typo .. Mail] – Mein Kampfing favourite! ......and I'm sure you must top it up with a bit of news from the British Broadcasting Conspiracy. ;-) BBC??? Not familiar with that. Do you mean, by any chance, the EBC??? The English Broadcasting Conspiracy? ......ah Cymru am Byth ......two degrees of bias then? ;-)
Gwendolyn Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Robinhood - 2011-12-18 9:57 PM Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:52 PM Robinhood - 2011-12-18 9:49 PM Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:43 PM Really? For trenchant political commentary I read “Woman and Home”; for the Arts, “The Beano”; for powerful investigative journalism, the “Tenby Observer” and for enlightenment, “The Lady”. For a left wing perspective, I study “The Spectator” and I mourn the decline of the “Daily Sport”. For totally balanced reporting you cannot do better than the “Daily Heil” [sorry, typo .. Mail] – Mein Kampfing favourite! ......and I'm sure you must top it up with a bit of news from the British Broadcasting Conspiracy. ;-) BBC??? Not familiar with that. Do you mean, by any chance, the EBC??? The English Broadcasting Conspiracy? ......ah Cymru am Byth ......two degrees of bias then? ;-) 3? Alba an Aigh as well.... plus Ulster if you want to make it 4.......
Guest pelmetman Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:55 PM pelmetman - 2011-12-18 9:51 PM Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:43 PM Really? For trenchant political commentary I read “Woman and Home”; for the Arts, “The Beano”; for powerful investigative journalism, the “Tenby Observer” and for enlightenment, “The Lady”. For a left wing perspective, I study “The Spectator” and I mourn the decline of the “Daily Sport”. For totally balanced reporting you cannot do better than the “Daily Heil” [sorry, typo .. Mail] – Mein Kampfing favourite! Anything interesting in the Guardian today Gwendolyn? :D ERM.. no, of course not...... It is not published on a Sunday. Goodness... I know not what to think, about anything, until tomorrow morning. Blimey you mean they don't need to work on Sundays 8-).................Oh I forgot they'd all be in church :D
Gwendolyn Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 pelmetman - 2011-12-18 10:05 PM Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:55 PM pelmetman - 2011-12-18 9:51 PM Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:43 PM Really? For trenchant political commentary I read “Woman and Home”; for the Arts, “The Beano”; for powerful investigative journalism, the “Tenby Observer” and for enlightenment, “The Lady”. For a left wing perspective, I study “The Spectator” and I mourn the decline of the “Daily Sport”. For totally balanced reporting you cannot do better than the “Daily Heil” [sorry, typo .. Mail] – Mein Kampfing favourite! Anything interesting in the Guardian today Gwendolyn? :D ERM.. no, of course not...... It is not published on a Sunday. Goodness... I know not what to think, about anything, until tomorrow morning. Blimey you mean they don't need to work on Sundays 8-).................Oh I forgot they'd all be in church :D Of course they work on Sundays - to get Monday's paper to bed. It's Saturday they have off...... to bed .... what????
Guest ChrisB Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Well it amused me anyway .. Went into the local WH Smith last week and there was a rep giving away free copies of the Daily Mail. I was offered a copy but declined stating that I had come in to buy a newspaper. Strange looks when I picked up the Independent.
Lord Braykewynde Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Brian Kirby - 2011-12-18 8:20 PM I feel I could do worse than pass on the recommendation of an ex work colleague of mine. He always read the Guardian and the Telegraph. Robinhood - 2011-12-18 9:49 PM ......and I'm sure you must top it up with a bit of news from the British Broadcasting Conspiracy. ;-) And here was I thinking the Guardian was the BBC in print :-|
Brian Kirby Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Tracker - 2011-12-18 8:34 PM........................Going off topic like that is something you should all be thoroughly ashamed of and it's a good job the Topic Police are not on patrol tonight or you would all be told that you are very naughty boys and made to sit on the naughty step. But we are not off topic, Rich, we are absolutely on topic. The topic was an article in the Daily Mail. It is not possible to consider the worth of the article without considering its context. The context is the Daily Mail, which clearly some of use rely upon for their information. This is less apparent from their public espousal of the paper itself, than from the quality of their contributions. Others, equally clearly, but far more apparently, rely upon other, more worthy, sources. Sadly, it has become rather a case of an argumentum ad journam (apologies! Canine Latin :-)), in that it has been the journal, rather than the article itself, that has been the subject of the criticism. However, I think this is justifiable under circumstances where one has been forced to consider the value of opinion expressed through a journal of disputed quality. Having, it seems to me, dispensed with the journal itself as a credible source, it surely follows that the article must share its fate? Thus, we have been debating both the journal and, by implication, the article. I should have thought that was clear? :-D
Syd Posted December 19, 2011 Author Posted December 19, 2011 Thanks to everyone for their help in explaining the value of each newspaper, I know that it has been a great help to me and has greatly enhanced my future prospects. I now fully understand everything about world economics and just where I have been going wrong. Should now find making my first million a piece of cake. Off to Asda now to stock up on fruitcake
Robinhood Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 10:02 PM Robinhood - 2011-12-18 9:57 PM Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:52 PM Robinhood - 2011-12-18 9:49 PM Gwendolyn - 2011-12-18 9:43 PM Really? For trenchant political commentary I read “Woman and Home”; for the Arts, “The Beano”; for powerful investigative journalism, the “Tenby Observer” and for enlightenment, “The Lady”. For a left wing perspective, I study “The Spectator” and I mourn the decline of the “Daily Sport”. For totally balanced reporting you cannot do better than the “Daily Heil” [sorry, typo .. Mail] – Mein Kampfing favourite! ......and I'm sure you must top it up with a bit of news from the British Broadcasting Conspiracy. ;-) BBC??? Not familiar with that. Do you mean, by any chance, the EBC??? The English Broadcasting Conspiracy? ......ah Cymru am Byth ......two degrees of bias then? ;-) 3? Alba an Aigh as well.... plus Ulster if you want to make it 4....... ....well, adding more countries doesn't IMO, add any more degrees of bias, it simply increases the number of instances. I certainly agree with you re the nationalistic bias, however; I mean, how can the BBC justify such extensive and expensive provision of services for Wales and Scotland (I''m not so sure about Ulster) in their minority "native" languages. It's a scandal! ;-) (......and it must be true, I read it in the Daily Mail) B-) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049513/BBC-spends-TEN-times-Welsh-radio-English-station-number-listeners.html For the other degree of bias, I presume you are subscribing to the widely held public view of Auntie's rabid right-wing tendencies? ;-)
nightrider Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 The best thing about having my 94 years old mother in law living with us is that she thinks food rationing is still in force, nothing is wasted or thrown away, all the grub made in our house is mostly home made, broths, soup, stews and my fave, jam rolypoly lovely tackle.
Mr Mrs Batty Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 ChrisB - 2011-12-18 10:40 PM Well it amused me anyway .. Went into the local WH Smith last week and there was a rep giving away free copies of the Daily Mail. I was offered a copy but declined stating that I had come in to buy a newspaper. Strange looks when I picked up the Independent. Chris !!!!! HORROR OF HORRORS. You declined a free copy of the Daily Mail ?? Appreciate this should be in the money saving tips section, but we find that this particular newspaper if FREE can easily be cut into Andrex sized sheets and can be used in ones 'small room' thus saving enough to purchase another bottle of wine. BEWARE though , if you have an edition where the ink runs it is sometimes difficult to know if you are taking pooh off or adding to ones botty. Hope this helps if there are any more free toilet saving paper offered. lol :D :D
nightrider Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 If I get my mad up I might get dressed and toddle up to the newsagents and buy one of those fancy Dan news papers to find out what I am missing, in point of fact seeing as Barbara is dressed I will ask her to trundle through the snow to get me one.
Lord Braykewynde Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Syd - 2011-12-19 9:39 AM Off to Asda now to stock up on fruitcake Don't get bringing any on to the forum Syd. There's enough fruitcakes on here already :-)
Colin Leake Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Given that we have plenty of storage space my wife shops on the basis of buying vast quantities (calculated on the basis of usage and the products use by date) of any of the products we use when genuine special offers are on. Six months is not unusual and even a year for products with long storage potential. Any products that are free in season such as blackberries from our own bushes are frozen and fruit from the orchard is either turned into chutney or jam. Cooking apples are cooked and frozen in tubs for use in pies or crumbles during the Winter. We should be OK then. Given that we are wealthy our kids are always amazed at this but it does save a great deal of money over the year and we may be wealthy now but we married very young and started out with nout. It does seem a little unfair that those of us who can afford to do this can make the savings but the poor struggling pensioners living from week to week can't. When the kids tease her about it she simply asks them how they think we got rich in the first place. We also by habit hardly ever throw any food away.
flicka Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 heard on TV today (not sure which channel) that someone (3rd party) stated that the News of the World Phone Tapping actually started at The Sun. Surprise, surprise (that it's taken so long for them to work that one out )
nightrider Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Colin Leake - 2011-12-19 4:56 PM Given that we have plenty of storage space my wife shops on the basis of buying vast quantities (calculated on the basis of usage and the products use by date) of any of the products we use when genuine special offers are on. Six months is not unusual and even a year for products with long storage potential. Any products that are free in season such as blackberries from our own bushes are frozen and fruit from the orchard is either turned into chutney or jam. Cooking apples are cooked and frozen in tubs for use in pies or crumbles during the Winter. We should be OK then. Given that we are wealthy our kids are always amazed at this but it does save a great deal of money over the year and we may be wealthy now but we married very young and started out with nout. It does seem a little unfair that those of us who can afford to do this can make the savings but the poor struggling pensioners living from week to week can't. When the kids tease her about it she simply asks them how they think we got rich in the first place. We also by habit hardly ever throw any food away. Colin, you fool you, letting everyone know that you are a wealthy man, at this moment hoards of poverty stricken motor homers are sussing out where you live to relieve you of your weallth, silly boy.
Colin Leake Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Seems we should be more worried about our stocks of food. Any one know where we can get a brace of AK47s from?
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.