plumbersvan Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 8-) Spain is very regulated :-S To get to Portugal and Gibraltar Spain has to be crossed Will a gas supplier sell me a gas bottle?I dont live there nor do i know anyone that dose If anyone knows the price of the gas (propane 13kgs) and the cost of a bottle it would be helpful :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Have a look at this link: http://tinyurl.com/7z6psfl Should tell you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallii Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 As Brian's link will tell you, Repsol have filling stations all over Spain, they also sell various sizes of gas cylinders. They are quite cheap and you simply pay over the counter, no name address etc. H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbersvan Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 8-) Very good value 8-) France went from 17,50 e to 23,50e and Mr sarkosy has added ONLY 10% on the 1st Jan for EU financial union 8-) :-S The thing is i dont have a spanish gas bottle *-) Will repsol simply provide me with one for my stay *-) Or must i fill in a spanish form with name address & then what cost for the bottle (?) I will arrive with Cube which if heating lasts a week :-S then it freezes until more gas can be found :-( Fine with the gas price but i need a bottle 8-) Alf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Alfiona - can I ask you to stop using those bloody emoticons please as they just make the message even harder to follow! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Sorry - finger stutter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbersvan Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 sorry :-( I do hope someone has taken spanish gas without a bottle i was told i had to buy one at a flee mkt?? Fiona how can i change the name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvin marvin Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 My understanding is that if you try to purchase a gas bottle directly from say Repsol they will need a name and address for Spain. If they can see its for a m/home they should ask for a Spanish gas cerificate for the vehicle. You could, if you have proof os a Sapnsh address say that its for a BBQ. However if like most people you have limited Spanish, the easier place to buy a gas bottle is at a flea market, there are loads of these around the coastal strip. Once you have bought a bottle (usually empty) you can simply take this to a filling station and exchange it for a full one. The cost the last time I bought one was 12E for the bottle and I think about 15E for the refill. The next problem you may have is the regulator, but this can also be solved by a visit to an ironmongers, a bottle top regulator was about 7.5E. If you have a bulk head fixed regulator you will need a different "regulator" ie one that acts simply as a gas tap, it looks exactly the same as the regulator. If you have an external BBQ point you can with a long enough length of hose feed the gas from the bottle back into the van appliances. Simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbersvan Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 :-S Im not to sure there will be hundreds of flee mkts during mid winter Ill give an address hoping they don't know the house if that dosnt work its camping gas & a blanket Vans are rather miserable when the heatings off :'( The regulator?has to be changed?are they not standard fittings? In Italy i bought a replacement bottle which i could return as i left,they put my French bottle in their store *-) The Italian bottle has the same thread as the French one> Fiona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankkia Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The Spanish Repsol bottles do not have a thread on the bottle connection - It has a black plastic ring which you lift up to release it from the bottle and lift again whilst pushing firmly down on the regulator / tap then release the ring to catch on to the top of the bottle. I would suggest that you get Repsol in Spain if you are going to Portugal after as the fittings are the same for Portuguese Repsol bottles - Note - in Portugal there are several suppliers and all have different regulator fittings so stick to Repsol if poss. You will also see that Spanish / Portuguese Repsol bottles are all orange coloured - that is for butane which is the one most readily available. If you are anticipating very cold weather (say up in the Pyrenees) you may want propane which has a much lower "freezing" point - again it is an orange bottle but will have a black stripe running around the middle - unlike the UK it uses the same reg /tap. When you look for a tap or regulator (just a tap if you already have a wall fixed reg) - the tap has a thread on the 'van side of the fitting whereas the reg has a spigot to which you can attach a hose with a jubilee clip. If it is a tap then remember that this has gas coming out at high pressure and you will need a high pressure hose adaptor for your own regulator to the Spanish tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Hi Plumbersvan, Bottles are often sold in boot sale type markets around big towns. They are usually only a few euros. Many homes use bottled gas and I found that the cheapest refills were from the delivery roundsmen found in most towns. On exchange day the roads were lined with empty gas bottles. The French bottles look very similar, but they are not exchangeable with Spanish ones. I have now changed to gaslow and have a bottle that I no longer use, if you are in the Essex area and still need a bottle please contact me, I may even have the regulator in the garage. Rodger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbersvan Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Yes often found in Gidea park between Brentwood and Romford i live in London but have family out there.I know essex well Sadly in already in Europe for the start of my winter travels without spanish adapter It sounds very like the French "clip" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvin marvin Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 plumbersvan - 2012-01-02 6:49 PM :-S Im not to sure there will be hundreds of flee mkts during mid winter Ill give an address hoping they don't know the house if that dosnt work its camping gas & a blanket Vans are rather miserable when the heatings off :'( The regulator?has to be changed?are they not standard fittings? In Italy i bought a replacement bottle which i could return as i left,they put my French bottle in their store *-) The Italian bottle has the same thread as the French one> Fiona There may not be many flee markets, but there sure as hell are lots of flea markets. It may be mid-winter, but life in Spain goes on, please don't forget Spain runs on bottled gas, its simply everywhere. I've bought both of my Spanish and Portugese bottles in the winter, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesFrance Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Even though it is more expensive to use than larger cylinders, you can exchange camping gas cylinders in most Ferreterias (ironmongers) in Spain. If you come to somewhere like Benidorm you can look on campsite noticeboards for cylinders for sale for maybe 10€. The wagon which delivers to the site where I am will supply a new Cepsa cylinder for 30€. When they were first introduced we got ours for free, but sadly not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I realise this is of little use to Alf now.. ..but is this any good for anyone..?(..although I'm not even sure it's the correct type if I'm honest.. :$ ) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/repsol-k6-portable-calor-gas-bottle-regulator-blue-orange-/280796531559?pt=UK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item4160c70b67 ..I don't know if it's a "bargain" or not (..seeing as it's empty)but at least having it with you would save having to faff about trying to find one... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 plumbersvan - 2012-01-02 9:23 PM Yes often found in Gidea park between Brentwood and Romford i live in London but have family out there.I know essex well Sadly in already in Europe for the start of my winter travels without spanish adapter It sounds very like the French "clip" I believe your motorhome's gas system uses a regulator that attaches to the gas bottle. If that's the case, then you'll need the type of adapter shown here http://caracamp.co.uk/index.php?app=gbu0&ns=prodshow&ref=id38273 This 'jumbo' adapter fits on to the Spanish/Portugese gas bottle, but it's NOT a regulator, so you'll also need an appropriate (butane or propane pressure) regulator to screw on to the adapter's threaded outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wints Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 The El Cisne flea market at Benidorm, and the massive car boot at La Nuthia (just up the hill from Alfaz), you'll be tripping up over them. Approx 10 E, another 3 E for the regulator. regards Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mrs Batty Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Hi - have a word with BGD or Sparkle, you can find them on many threads. They live in Spain and have done for many years. Either will be more than happy to advise / help. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbersvan Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 For my cube i have a clip without regulator direct gas to my bulkhead fixed regulator via the pigtail Gas is almost as complicated at electricity connectors 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The best gas bottles in Spain are the alloy (silver) ones. They use the same regulator as the orange repsol bottles but are lighter to carry. Still as available as the orange ones in all flea markets and garages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesFrance Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The only problem with the alloy bottles is that they are butane and I find that on a cold morning my Truma Combi and/or regulator are failing owing to reduced pressure. I taped up the regulator button but the Combi defaults to red sometimes. There are steel propane ones available but not from filling stations, only off the wagons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 plumbersvan - 2012-01-03 11:37 PM For my cube i have a clip without regulator direct gas to my bulkhead fixed regulator via the pigtail Gas is almost as complicated at electricity connectors 8-) OK, as you've got a bulkhead-mounted regulator and a "Clip Direct" adapter to attach the pigtail to your "Le Cube" bottle, there's a fair chance that (in order to connect to a Spanish/Portugese gas bottle) you should just need to replace the 'clip' adapter with the 'jumbo' type of adapter I mentioned earlier. I've some concern about your present regulator. Assuming that you've still got your 1984 Eriba-Car 580, it's likely that this would have started life with EITHER a butane-suitable (28mbar) regulator OR a propane-suitable (37mbar) regulator. There's the possibility that the original regulator may have been replaced at some stage with a 30mbar regulator able to handle butane or propane, even though this replacement exercise is generally frowned on. Anyway, you need to make sure that, whatever regulator you've got, it matches the type of gas you are using. 1: If it's a 28mbar regulator you need to stick to butane. 2: If it's a 38mbar regulator you should stick to propane. 3: If it's a 30mbar regulator, then it's likely that the regulator is technically unsuitable for your motorhome, as it probably won't match the motorhome's gas appliances correctly. However, as long as you haven't noticed anything odd happening when you've been using the gas appliances, then you wil have the option of using either butane or propane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvin marvin Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Syd - 2012-01-04 9:36 AM The best gas bottles in Spain are the alloy (silver) ones. They use the same regulator as the orange repsol bottles but are lighter to carry. Still as available as the orange ones in all flea markets and garages. I disagree, when I was last in Spain, the "silver" aluminium cylinders were only Cepsa, not as widely available as Repsol. However if lightweight is a requirement then Repsol do a variety of plastic cylinders, branded "K6" or "K11" etc. These are fatter cylinders than the metal ones. Steel Repsol cylinders are widely available at flea markets etc and as cheap as chips. Which is best??? you pay your money and take your chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolero boy Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I've been trying to find the dimensions of the Repsol bottles without success. I have a small (2x6kg) locker and will be going to spain in the spring. I may go for one Gaslow (or similar) refillable, which will suffice (with adaptors) for UK and most of europe, along with a local bottle/Jumbo adaptor for spain. As I cant get 2 large bottles in the locker (bad design) I could have one 11kg refillable and then remove it to the boot locker and replace with Repsol when in Spain - just unsure of Repsol bottle sizes. Thanks for any assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Chris... Have you noticed my ebay link, too a Repsol bottle,above? ..admittedly it's only a small(ish) one..and I suppose not exactly local to you,seeing as it's in Bedford.. :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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