rupert123 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 See the French have had their credit rating downgraded, that should make the pound/euro rate even better, great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 ... and what has that got to do with 'Motorhome Matters'????? 8-) ;-) (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vindiboy Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Mel B - 2012-01-13 9:14 PM... and what has that got to do with 'Motorhome Matters'????? 8-) ;-) (lol) I would have thought everything, Motorhome = travel, travel = France, post = information.?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicka Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 & it's not just France, who have been downgraded. Full list here:- http://www.standardandpoors.com/ratings/articles/en/us/?articleType=HTML&assetID=1245327294763 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I don't believe it.......some nobs posted on motorhome matters about the french downgrade. What's that go to do with motorhomes?. (lol) (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith T Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 peter - 2012-01-13 11:00 PM I don't believe it.......some nobs posted on motorhome matters about the french downgrade. What's that go to do with motorhomes?. (lol) (lol) Quite a lot, i would have though.at least logically!! The £/Euro rate should improve in our favour, although whether that happens remains to be seen. But in principal, for those of us who regualrly visit France, it should restore some of the financial values whihc have rapidly deteriorated over the last couple of years, so surely quite a lot '... to do with motorhomes', although in fiarness it might have a wider appeal on one of the other MMM forums, as it should befeit all travellers, whether motorhome, caravan or tenters!. .... and without wishing to be drawn into another war of words, why does this contrbutor find it necessary to be rude and disparaging about the OP? I really cannot understand why an acceptable standard of politeness seems impossible for some to conform to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Takes all kind to make a world , we are not the same . ;-) Thank you god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 peter - 2012-01-13 11:00 PM I don't believe it.......some nobs posted on motorhome matters about the french downgrade. What's that go to do with motorhomes?. (lol) (lol) Its no good Peter, some folk dont have any sense of humour, or understand what your reply was about, perhaps they dont keep up with recent posts. Keep smiling mate. :-> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Can a farmer keep a bull in a field crossed by a public path? I'm sure that question is often at the forefront of many motorcaravanners' minds. You've pitched your motorhome at a lovely rural CL/CS and decided to take a walk using the local public footpaths. You climb over a stile and, there in the field, is a herd of cows among which is a socking great bull (Most people can spot a bull!) In such a situation, the first thing you'll undoubtedly be asking yourself is, if I get trampled/gored by that bull, will I be able to claim compensation from its owner? Here's some helpful information about a farmer's responsibility:- "Can a farmer keep a bull in a field crossed by a public path? A bull of up to ten months old, Yes. Bulls over ten months old of a recognised dairy breed (Ayrshire, British Friesian, British Holstein, Dairy Shorthorn, Guernsey, Jersey and Kerry) are banned from fields crossed by public paths under all circumstances. All other bulls over ten months old are banned unless accompanied by cows or heifers. If any bulls act in a way which endangers the public, an offence may be committed under health and safety legislation." After many years of participation on the Warners forums, I know that forum-members are very fond of bull-related postings, so I thought I'd post the above advice. As the posting contains references to "motorcaravanners" and to a "motorhome", it's plainly an appropriate candidate for the Motorhome Matters forum-section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Derek Uzzell - 2012-01-14 9:36 AM Can a farmer keep a bull in a field crossed by a public path? I'm sure that question is often at the forefront of many motorcaravanners' minds. You've pitched your motorhome at a lovely rural CL/CS and decided to take a walk using the local public footpaths. You climb over a stile and, there in the field, is a herd of cows among which is a socking great bull (Most people can spot a bull!) In such a situation, the first thing you'll undoubtedly be asking yourself is, if I get trampled/gored by that bull, will I be able to claim compensation from its owner? Here's some helpful information about a farmer's responsibility:- "Can a farmer keep a bull in a field crossed by a public path? A bull of up to ten months old, Yes. Bulls over ten months old of a recognised dairy breed (Ayrshire, British Friesian, British Holstein, Dairy Shorthorn, Guernsey, Jersey and Kerry) are banned from fields crossed by public paths under all circumstances. All other bulls over ten months old are banned unless accompanied by cows or heifers. If any bulls act in a way which endangers the public, an offence may be committed under health and safety legislation." After many years of participation on the Warners forums, I know that forum-members are very fond of bull-related postings, so I thought I'd post the above advice. As the posting contains references to "motorcaravanners" and to a "motorhome", it's plainly an appropriate candidate for the Motorhome Matters forum-section. Yes - I was really cross this morning. I went into my motorhome & found that someone had left the cap off the toothpaste! I mean...... really! B-) B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek pringle Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hi All, I think we should all bear in mind that whether it be France, Greece, Germany or the U.K when downturns happen inevitably people suffer hardship through job losses and the likes,some forum members could even be affected. Whilst I like anybody else likes a good currency rate for holidays I do remember it is a holiday and the difference to me and the l suspect many is marginal set against the circumstances it leaves lots of people in be they French or not. I think it shows poor taste to gloat and if people dislike the French or French ways why do they holiday there. cheers derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rupert123 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 peter - 2012-01-13 11:00 PM I don't believe it.......some nobs posted on motorhome matters about the french downgrade. What's that go to do with motorhomes?. (lol) (lol) All to complicated for you Peter, never mind a couple of others have kindly saved me from trying to explain this simple matter to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 derek pringle - 2012-01-14 10:27 AM Hi All, I think we should all bear in mind that whether it be France, Greece, Germany or the U.K when downturns happen inevitably people suffer hardship through job losses and the likes,some forum members could even be affected. Whilst I like anybody else likes a good currency rate for holidays I do remember it is a holiday and the difference to me and the l suspect many is marginal set against the circumstances it leaves lots of people in be they French or not. I think it shows poor taste to gloat and if people dislike the French or French ways why do they holiday there. cheers derek Not sure if I'm gloating 8-).........I have always thought the euro was a half baked idea, and believe individual countries will do much better without it ;-).........Its only big business and the politicians that want it, indeed I expect the poorer people in Greece and Spain etc will do much better after the euro is history........I suspect the Greeks are only dragging their heels so that the rich can get their money out of the country *-) As for having to change money from country to country.......I never found that much of a problem before the euro ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 AS the Euro slowly loses value against the pound will we see those European Sourced/manufactured Motorhomes (see...this is relevant !) slowly go down in price ?? and even the UK manufactured ones contain mainly European manufactured Parts (so we were told, when the Euro was in the ascendant !) I very much doubt it, any differance will get 'Absorbed' long before it reaches the 'Customer'. Shame as the market could do with an 'It's a Bargain !' Boost. Better than dodging a Bull in a Field any day. *-) Ray as for 'blaming' the Greeks, was reading that some poor Greek families are leaving their children at Hospitals etc., saying they can no longer afford to feed them. !! (probably an exageration..but) not good for stability in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 chas - 2012-01-14 8:55 AM peter - 2012-01-13 11:00 PM I don't believe it.......some nobs posted on motorhome matters about the french downgrade. What's that go to do with motorhomes?. (lol) (lol) Its no good Peter, some folk dont have any sense of humour, or understand what your reply was about, perhaps they dont keep up with recent posts. Keep smiling mate. :->Where is Postnote anyway?. Haven't seen him about lately. Perhaps he's been put down. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 rupert123 - 2012-01-14 10:50 AM peter - 2012-01-13 11:00 PM I don't believe it.......some nobs posted on motorhome matters about the french downgrade. What's that go to do with motorhomes?. (lol) (lol) All to complicated for you Peter, never mind a couple of others have kindly saved me from trying to explain this simple matter to you.I think you'll find I'm rather more perceptive than you think Rupert. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Be interesting to see what happens after the weekend, but at the moment you can get two cents extra to the pound compared to one year ago, don't go wild with all that money folks *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 michele - 2012-01-13 11:49 PM Takes all kind to make a world , we are not the same . ;-) Thank you god OI!! What's that got to do with motorhoming? You keep religion out of here please! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Rayjsj - 2012-01-14 11:33 AM AS the Euro slowly loses value against the pound will we see those European Sourced/manufactured Motorhomes (see...this is relevant !) slowly go down in price ?? Will you kindly stop trying to turn this into a sensible thread Ray *-).................this "Chatterbox" moron is busy carrying out a dumbing down raid of MMM to bring it to my level :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 peter - 2012-01-13 11:00 PM I don't believe it.......some nobs posted on motorhome matters about the french downgrade. What's that go to do with motorhomes?. (lol) (lol) Well, it bodes ill for your Le Voyageur, because it has just been downrated to AA+, and well for my Hobby, because it is rated AAA Stable. So eat my dust! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 What is worrying is that despite the French and other Eu Eurozone contries loss of AAA ratings and the fall in value of the Euro against other world currencies is that the exchange rate between the GBP and the Euro ramains largely unaltered. This shows that whatever we may wish that we are inextricably linked into the general prosperity (or lack of it) of Europe. C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 But Clive, that is supposed to be our unique advantage in staying out of the Euro. We thereby have total dominion over our currency, so are free to trade our way into a golden sunset, while the clouds gather over those misguided foreigners! Are you really saying someone else, somewhere else, controls the value of Sterling? Damn! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michele Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Awh guys , lets not fight . A womens view on it . Derek has a fair point if we all just go posting things slightly off topic to M/Homes in no time there would be anarchy. I know not all agree and I also know that alot don't like to post on Chatter because of its reputation maybe they think the serious guys like Derek will not reply . Or see it ???? Just a thought!!! maybe people will not read ?. I am sure they would if it was a sensible topic with sensible points of view But if new people get it wrong surely they can be forgiven and the said post removed to what ever forum it suits We are never going to agree ever but at the risk of upsetting others if a few people managed to change their ways on here such as try posting on chatter then it wouldnt be such a segregated lot who knows if everyone tried it may make for a better forum. Pete sense of humour was lost on some. IMHO it would totally make a better forum if someone knows they are upsetting someone just move your post , go on try it, or does that take a big man to do that . You never know you maybe plesantly suprised at what answers you do get on Chatter . There will always be people who soley come on the MMM site to post and read about M/H matters and vice versa re chatter .. Why can't we all get along together . Some people flit between two forums with no problems . have a laugh and a joke have an argument or three , then answer sensible stuff on M/H Lifes to short to argue all the time guys. I in the past have posted stuff on here especially in my ignorance when I first started . At the time I thought why not its slightly or remotely linked to M/Homes in a way . But If someone pointed out they didnt like it I removed it why argue . Anyway thats my two penneth worth . Now lets see who has the minerals to make change on here . now what is all the triple AAA battery talk about . :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Brian Kirby - 2012-01-14 4:18 PM But Clive, that is supposed to be our unique advantage in staying out of the Euro. We thereby have total dominion over our currency, so are free to trade our way into a golden sunset, while the clouds gather over those misguided foreigners! Are you really saying someone else, somewhere else, controls the value of Sterling? Damn! :-) I think you miss the point Brian ;-)...............We know the UK is a basket case because its part of the EC......but we are faring slightly better because we haven't been stitched up with the euro as well, so have more tools to dig ourselves out of the hole that Labour put us in *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 pelmetman - 2012-01-14 5:31 PM Brian Kirby - 2012-01-14 4:18 PM But Clive, that is supposed to be our unique advantage in staying out of the Euro. We thereby have total dominion over our currency, so are free to trade our way into a golden sunset, while the clouds gather over those misguided foreigners! Are you really saying someone else, somewhere else, controls the value of Sterling? Damn! :-) I think you miss the point Brian ;-)...............We know the UK is a basket case because its part of the EC......but we are faring slightly better because we haven't been stitched up with the euro as well, so have more tools to dig ourselves out of the hole that Labour put us in *-) Don't want to digress, but must disagree. To the extent we are a basket case, it is not anything to do with the EU. It is the result of successive governments (roughly in this order) failing to settle policy, resorting to excessive dogma, and over-borrowing to buy us goodies so that they remained in power. I can see no evidence we should have gained a better bunch of politicians, or policies, had we not joined the EEC. IMO, blaming our predicament on the EU merely seeks to shift the blame form us and onto someone else. The hard truth is that we are where we are because of what we, and we alone, have done, and have not done. No-one else but us has been in charge over the past 50 years. The Euro is flawed, no question. However, its main problem is not that it is flawed, it is that some of its members exploited its flaws to enable them to borrow too much, for exactly the same reasons as our politicians borrowed too much: to buy popularity, so as to remain in power. If it survives, expect those flaws to be eradicated by the imposition of far stricter oversight of sovereign budgets. Who then will exercise stricter oversight of our sovereign budget? Ah yes, the same bunch who got us over-borrowed in the first place. Good, I'm glad that is now all settled for the better! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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