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snowie

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Security is probably one of those things that you either do something about or leave to fate.

 

I like the look of the HeoSafe Door Locks for the front doors of the Ducato;so, subject to funds, problem solved.

 

But as I have a panelvan conversion, that leaves me with a 1.3M wide sliding door that has no more than basic security. A coachbuilt would have a habitation door, and a range of locking options.

 

Is anyone aware of a well engineered lock product specifically for panelvan sliding doors?

At present I use a timber diagonal brace that effectively wedges the door in the locked position, but it's a bit makeshift.

I've heard of people using a domestic patio door lock but can't imagine how .

 

We have solid double rear doors, and an internal bulkhead, so I'm not too concerned about additional security for those doors.

 

If you've found a solution I'd be interested to hear,

 

regards,

alan b

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Guest 1footinthegrave

Keeping them out whilst away from the van would be my priority, Heosafe locks don't fulfil that function, so deadlocks from someone like Harrison locks for the front doors for me. As for the side door you could do the same,or a cheap but effective option I've seen is to remove the door key lock completely, and cover the hole with a stainless steel blanking plate, as this is the line of attack with a screwdriver. I haven't done that as yet ( on the to do list ) I simply use a ratchet type G clamp to secure the top roller support arm to the inside of the van, but of course that may involve a DIY mod to achieve, it didn't with my van though.I even toyed with the idea of hasp and staple on the inside, not pretty, but would do the job Then I leave from a cab door.

 

The downside with my temporary solution ( two years now ) is I could still comeback to a damaged side door, but doubt they would be able to gain access.

 

 

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Thanks to Derek, excellent links, and the top one has the SS blanking plate that I had seen somewhere but could not remember where. ;-)
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The Transit must be different from Sevel vans - the sliding door has no keyhole (nor do the passenger or rear doors).

From outside, you use either the remote, or the central locking facility from the driver's door keyhole.

And a double press when locking sets a deadlock, so the inside knobs & handles don't work anymore. We make sure we only single-lock when we're inside in case of emergency, but deadlocking when we leave the van seems plenty to me.

So do other vans have keyholes all round then?

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Not sure what the OP has I assumed an older van, so if it is an X250 perhaps he could expand on what he perceives to be the problem. ;-)
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Sorry folks, van is an 08 plate Ducato, so I've been out to the van and reminded myself there is only the drivers side lock.

 

I'm grateful for the heads up on deadlocking; haven't read that so far in the handbook.

 

My concern is mostly overnight security.

The sliding door is the most vulnerable I think, and I yet to see a device that would open quickly, not sure it needs to be a lock, just out of sight maybe near floor level. Maybe a couple of hasps and carabiner or two would do the trick?

 

Is it possible to attach photo's to posts?

 

I guess a lot depends on your layout, and whether you can get out quickly if you need to in the event of fire for example.

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snowie - 2012-01-21 7:13 PM

 

van is an 08 plate Ducato ..... I'm grateful for the heads up on deadlocking; haven't read that so far in the handbook.

 

Remember, mine's a Ford - I've no idea whether the Ducato has the same deadlock, so get back to that handbook (or did you mean you now HAVE read that bit?)

 

 

Is it possible to attach photo's to posts?

 

 

Yep - when you've written your words, tick the box marked "Attach a file after posting" just below the text box. Then when you click "Submit" you'll get a window which allows you to browse through your computer files to find the pic you want.

BUT they can only be so big - check the Mods' instructions in the first "forum group" on the home page, I can't remember the limit off hand but I usually have to "compress" mine using Windows Picture Manager before they'll fit. Hope that helps!

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snowie - 2012-01-21 7:13 PM

 

...My concern is mostly overnight security.

The sliding door is the most vulnerable I think, and I yet to see a device that would open quickly, not sure it needs to be a lock, just out of sight maybe near floor level. Maybe a couple of hasps and carabiner or two would do the trick?...

 

I doubt that you'll be able to buy an off-the-shelf product designed to do exactly what you want, as locking systems for commercial panel-vans will be designed to prevent criminals entering the vehicle but won't be concerned with a scenario where people inside the vehicle need to exit it rapidly in an emergency.

 

There wil be lots of ways to make your motorhome's sliding door more difficult to open from outside but still be (fairly) quickly openable from inside, but it's likely they'll all need a DIY adaptation of a product not specifically designed for that task. I suggest you initially seek advice from "Van-Locked" (see link I provided earlier) as they are panel-van securiity specialists and offer motorhome-related locks.

 

If they can't help, then adapting a patio-door locking-bolt (which you mentioned in your original post), or a garage-door bolt would seem to be a realistic option, though the fact that they are all key-operated might complicate emergency exiting from the vehicle.

 

http://www.screwfix.com/p/multipurpose-door-bolt-white/68824

 

http://www.discountlocks.co.uk/Asec-High-Security-Garage-Door-Bolt-p/asec%20as1997.htm?of_tid=Q114hv5gNInCiWOioQSmZTlzwd3mGRLFXBZ-lhDimUEYbmWe2GNFQcSjGcJ9P8At

 

Other options might be to adapt a house-door night-latch lock that can be opened from inside the vehicle without using a key, or even to fit a hefty simple-to-operate conventional bolt.

 

http://www.e-hardware.co.uk/acatalog/Door_and_Gate_Bolts.html

 

 

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Guest 1footinthegrave
Please don't be offended, but that's hardly an elegant solution, to what I believe is a non existent worry, if there is no lock to be "screwdrivered" someone would need a crowbar to get the side door open, I think your worries are minimal as far as the side door is concerned, plastic windows offer little or no security so what to do about them also, or they could come in through the Heki rooflight,, just relax a little more about it would be my advice. ;-)
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I take your point, open windows and rooflights will render almost any precautions redundant;

 

But a device that comprise only 3 components: 1 bent steel rod; 1 mounting bracket; and 1 spring is pretty minimal to my eyes; and Hammerite spray painted a nice battleship grey, could be just right.

 

If the Fiat Ducato deadlocking gives an added level of security to all doors, then there'll be no need for any additional expense.

 

I think it's time to get out there and start using the van rather than thinking about it!

 

regards,

alan b

 

 

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when you park in a car park you come back to van and cannot get in through front doors or rear as up a close to wall . some one as gone and parked to close,if you have put the sliding door bolt on .then how do you get in ? ..we have had to use the sliding door a few times ....if some one wants to get in thay will

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Guest Peter James
The limiting factor in fitting any bolts to the inside of your sliding door, is they canot stick out far otherwise you can't slide the door open because there is very little clearance between the door and the side of the van when you slide it open.
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