plumbersvan Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 With a slipping fanbelt i limped into a garage only to be told i was to old 8-) Went to another main dealer in Lyon again "to old" they said they will no longer service vehicals older than 10 years old Im now limping into the hills of central France where more tractors are found that cars *-) There i know i will find service I have parts with me including a fan belt which seems to be a bit to big? *-) I was shocked the reason only new vehicals are wanted is the garage charge is between 60€ and 140€ an hour but the work time is given by the manufacturer:This morning a garage i know well (renault) said disc blocks can be changed in quarter of an hour but the listed charge is 1hr30mins and the mechanic gets a small bonus In the hills and mountains the hourly rate is between 28€ and 35€ per hour and "old" vehicals the norm Hope my fan belt gets there it sound dreadful as i set off,once going its ok?I hope Be warned you might have a non old campingvehical but it might cost a fortune to make a repair during this period of economic hardship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 plumbersvan - 2012-01-23 12:39 PM With a slipping fanbelt i limped into a garage only to be told i was to old 8-) Went to another main dealer in Lyon again "to old" they said they will no longer service vehicals older than 10 years old Im now limping into the hills of central France where more tractors are found that cars *-) There i know i will find service I have parts with me including a fan belt which seems to be a bit to big? *-) I was shocked the reason only new vehicals are wanted is the garage charge is between 60€ and 140€ an hour but the work time is given by the manufacturer:This morning a garage i know well (renault) said disc blocks can be changed in quarter of an hour but the listed charge is 1hr30mins and the mechanic gets a small bonus In the hills and mountains the hourly rate is between 28€ and 35€ per hour and "old" vehicals the norm Hope my fan belt gets there it sound dreadful as i set off,once going its ok?I hope Be warned you might have a non old campingvehical but it might cost a fortune to make a repair during this period of economic hardship Another good reason to aviod main dealers then :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGD Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Dunno if this will help: Changing a "fan belt" is a piece of cake for any competent DIY mechanic. It's usually a 5 minute job. If you have the new one, then maybe you could either pop into any vehicle mechanics garage/workshop that you pass, or into any Feu Vert (sort of French version of Kwik Fit), or even ask around on any campsite for someone who'd do it for you for a beer or two..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The way the economic climate is going, everyone will be driving vehicles over 10 years old soon, as the price of 'new' spirals away out of reach. Where that leaves 'The Green Agenda' I don't know, as City after City slaps on 'polution control measures' and fines for not complying. A 'Rock and a Hard Place' comes to mind. Already 'London Owners' of 'Older' Motorhomes are having their rights 'Trodden On' by these 'New' Laws. A vehicle properly maintained and running 'as it was designed' should never be made illegal by retrospective legislation, a change to 'newly manufactured' of Course, but retrospective law assumes any vehicle over ten years old is an 'Old Banger' and they are NOT. Never ASSUME, It makes an ASS out of U and ME, or in this case it makes the Law look an Ass. >:-( Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Being banned from cities is another bonus I'd forgotten :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbersvan Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 The belt in use is to large 8-) The spare seems about the same if i knew how to buy one that fits it would be a step to reliability Shops/garages want the car paper to order the wrong size again (lol) The belt on is renault made in the USA 8-) *-) No.7700 696 825. the spare is 7700 720 582 which is 1030mm long or rather the packing says tnat but has ref 77 00 694 741 :-( i need a belt a little less large how to find one when no one uses a tape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tracker Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 If the belt is slipping it may only need adjustment to cure it. Do be aware though that tightening an old belt can often lead to it snapping which is a lot worse than it slipping. That said, sooner or later a slipping belt will have had enoughof the extra friction and heat and will fail so it really needs sorting whilst you are close to civilisation rather than in the middle of nowhere - or worse - on a busy main road. If you have the engine number any Renault dealer should be able to look up on a micro fiche or computer and tell you what size belt you need which will include the V angle, unless it is flat with ridges or grooves as well as width and length. If you want people to help you from the UK you will need to tell them the make, model, year, engine type, and size as nobody is able to second guess from what you have told us so far. One of the best ways to secure reliability is breakdown cover - do you not have this as they would probably be able to source a belt for you if you gave them the correct details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 From your posts I sometimes get the impression that you may be French so if your van is French registered and insured it should have breakdown insurance included by law. In the Auvergne if you find a small garage you will get the job done quite cheaply but the parts may be dearer in France than in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 "The belt on is renault made in the USA No.7700 696 825. the spare is 7700 720 582 which is 1030mm long or rather the packing says tnat but has ref 77 00 694 741" Your spare at 1030 is correct and the packaging and belt are just alternative numbers. HAVE YOU ACTUALLY TRIED FITTING your spare. Here is a list of all the belts compatible with the 10 x 1025 fitted. ALFA ROMEO 116760210300 BARREIROS 4000293140 BMW 1721408 BMW 11231721408 CITROEN 520007 CITROEN 95006782 DAF 0494104 DAF ERC6886 FENDT X696614513000 FIAT 4301066 FIAT 7580224 FIAT 4337104 FIAT 7596397 FIAT 4665640 FIAT 4665641 FORD 2400E8620A FORD 1718757 GAZ 7932564068 HJS 1718757 HJS 2400E8620A ISUZU 8943821051 ISUZU 8943821050 Iveco 4764807 Iveco 4814275 Iveco 1172921 Iveco 42522867 Iveco 4665640 JAGUAR C13595 JAGUAR C7898 MERCEDES-BENZ 307924 MERCEDES-BENZ 0049973992 MITSUBISHI MD008969 MITSUBISHI MF1405 NISSAN 1172078201 OPEL 1340677 OPEL 90411009 OPEL 1340723 OPEL 94382105 OPEL 1340737 OPEL 1340605 OPEL 90281901 PEUGEOT 574929 PEUGEOT 128002 PEUGEOT 400906 RENAULT 7700694741 RENAULT 7700696825 RENAULT 7700720582 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700694741 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700696825 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700720582 ROVER ERC6504 ROVER GFB168 ROVER ERC6886 ROVER 214303 ROVER ETC7939 ROVER 563132 ROVER GFB124 SAAB 713053 SAAB 731053 STEYR 61500130034 VAUXHALL 1340605 VAUXHALL 90411009 VAUXHALL 1340723 VAUXHALL 94382105 VAUXHALL 1340737 VAUXHALL 90281901 VOLVO 950812 VOLVO 975093 Reference numbers Goodyear 0951025 Goodyear 0951038 Goodyear 10AV1025 Goodyear 10AV1037 Goodyear 1374H Goodyear 951025 Goodyear 951038 Optibelt 1205 Optibelt 1207 Quinton Hazell QBA1025 Quinton Hazell QBA1038 Bosch 1987947614 Bosch 1987947694 Bosch 9104161205 Bosch 9164161205 Dayco 10400 Dayco 10403 Dayco 10405 Dayco 10408 Dayco 10A1020 Dayco 10A1025 Dayco 10A1030 Dayco 10A1035 Dayco 2074 Dayco 4341 Dayco 6629 Dayco 6669 Dayco 6669D Dayco 6856 Dayco 972SD Dayco 983 Dayco 984S Dayco 985SD CONTINENTAL 6578026 CONTINENTAL 6578670 CONTINENTAL 6587048 CONTINENTAL AV101025 CONTINENTAL AV101035 CONTINENTAL AV101037 CONTINENTAL V509 CONTINENTAL V514 SEMPERIT 95X1025 Ferodo V4917N Ferodo V917 KLEBER 1029 KLEBER 10X1020 KLEBER 10X1025 KLEBER 10X1035 KLEBER 1152 KLEBER 1154 KLEBER 11X1030 KLEBER AV101015 KLEBER AV101025CR UNIPART GCB11025 FENDT X696614513000 Gates 6221ESC Gates 6221MC HJS 1718757 HJS 2400E8620A HAVAM1 VG11020 HAVAM1 VG11025 HAVAM1 VS1155 HAVAM1 VS1158 HAVAM1 VS1161 Motorcraft EJA102 Motorcraft EJK403 Motorcraft EJX104 HUTCHINSON 5387 HUTCHINSON AV101015CR Goodyear 0951025 Goodyear 0951038 Goodyear 10AV1025 Goodyear 10AV1037 Goodyear 1374H Goodyear 951025 Goodyear 951038 Optibelt 1205 Optibelt 1207 Quinton Hazell QBA1025 Quinton Hazell QBA1038 Bosch 1987947614 Bosch 1987947694 Bosch 9104161205 Bosch 9164161205 Dayco 10400 Dayco 10403 Dayco 10405 Dayco 10408 Dayco 10A1020 Dayco 10A1025 Dayco 10A1030 Dayco 10A1035 Dayco 2074 Dayco 4341 Dayco 6629 Dayco 6669 Dayco 6669D Dayco 6856 Dayco 972SD Dayco 983 Dayco 984S Dayco 985SD CONTINENTAL 6578026 CONTINENTAL 6578670 CONTINENTAL 6587048 CONTINENTAL AV101025 CONTINENTAL AV101035 CONTINENTAL AV101037 CONTINENTAL V509 CONTINENTAL V514 SEMPERIT 95X1025 Ferodo V4917N Ferodo V917 KLEBER 1029 KLEBER 10X1020 KLEBER 10X1025 KLEBER 10X1035 KLEBER 1152 KLEBER 1154 KLEBER 11X1030 KLEBER AV101015 KLEBER AV101025CR UNIPART GCB11025 FENDT X696614513000 Gates 6221ESC Gates 6221MC HJS 1718757 HJS 2400E8620A HAVAM1 VG11020 HAVAM1 VG11025 HAVAM1 VS1155 HAVAM1 VS1158 HAVAM1 VS1161 Motorcraft EJA102 Motorcraft EJK403 Motorcraft EJX104 HUTCHINSON 5387 HUTCHINSON AV101015CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 plumbersvan - 2012-01-23 4:01 PM The belt in use is to large 8-) The spare seems about the same if i knew how to buy one that fits it would be a step to reliability Shops/garages want the car paper to order the wrong size again (lol) The belt on is renault made in the USA 8-) *-) No.7700 696 825. the spare is 7700 720 582 which is 1030mm long or rather the packing says tnat but has ref 77 00 694 741 :-( i need a belt a little less large how to find one when no one uses a tape OK, got you now... you need a slighty shorter one than 1030, where the heck has 1130 come from on the other thread......so confusing!!!!!! ( As always) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Here is a 10 x 1000 belt, so is 25mm shorter. Any parts pl;ace selling V belts shoudl have a catalogue and can look up the sizes of a belt in te hcross reference section..... Not sure why a mountain is being made of this!!!!!! AVIA 007026 BAUTZ 200001002 BEDFORD 7184180 BEDFORD 6376165 BEDFORD 7180684 BMW 11232241172 BMW 11232243046 BMW 11231279479 CITROEN 7700658289 CITROEN 91536308 FIAT 4164887 FIAT 4371913 FIAT 4574091 FIAT 4099852 FIAT 7575315 FORD 6044993 FORD 71TF8620AA FORD 82DB8N620BB FORD 95X1007LA FORD 11446055 FORD 6098572 FORD 76TF8620BA FORD 83GB6C301AA FORD 1482546 FORD 6112414 FORD 801779 FORD 83TF6C301DA FORD 1617272 FORD 70TF8620EA FORD 80TF6C301DA FORD 95X1003LA HANOMAG HENSCHEL 5986906990 HANOMAG HENSCHEL 5986908190 HJS 6112414 HJS 801779 HJS 1482546 HJS 83TF6C301DA HJS 70TF8620EA HJS 80TF6C301DA HJS 1617272 HJS 95X1003LA HJS 71TF8620AA HJS 82DB8N620BB HJS 6044993 HJS 95X1007LA HJS 6098572 HJS 76TF8620BA HJS 83GB6C301AA HJS 11446055 INNOCENTI 7575315 Iveco 4803951 Iveco 9832114 Iveco 98432114 LANCIA 4371913 LANCIA 7575315 LANCIA 82288389 LANCIA 2068003 MAN 87680900121 MAN 06580430121 MAZDA 024918381B MERCEDES-BENZ 0029970692 MERCEDES-BENZ 0069970792 MERCEDES-BENZ 0049978592 MERCEDES-BENZ 0099970392 MERCEDES-BENZ 0059976692 MERCEDES-BENZ 0099975392 MERCEDES-BENZ 0059976792 MERCEDES-BENZ 95X1000N275 MITSUBISHI MF1395 MITSUBISHI MD102970 NISSAN 14853H9910 OPEL 3012097 OPEL 1312097 OPEL 90231797 OPEL 1340720 OPEL 90271857 OPEL 1340732 OPEL 90409610 PEUGEOT 128014 PEUGEOT 575042 PEUGEOT 574928 PEUGEOT 575020 PEUGEOT 575035 RENAULT 7700858058 RENAULT 7700746125 RENAULT 7701349594 RENAULT 7700634518 RENAULT 7700749104 RENAULT 7700658289 RENAULT 7700749108 RENAULT 7700858053 RENAULT 7700736204 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700746125 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700858058 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700634518 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700749104 RENAULT TRUCKS 7701349594 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700658289 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700749108 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700736204 RENAULT TRUCKS 7700858053 SEAT 3897656 SEAT ND03231051 SKODA 942100009 TOYOTA 9932151000 TOYOTA 9091602248 TOYOTA 9091602330 TOYOTA 9091602452 VAUXHALL 1312097 VAUXHALL 6376165 VAUXHALL 90409610 VAUXHALL 1340720 VAUXHALL 6376385 VAUXHALL 1340732 VAUXHALL 90231797 VAUXHALL 3012097 VAUXHALL 90271857 VOLVO 973488 VOLVO 968296 VOLVO 973487 Goodyear 0951000 Goodyear 0951014 Goodyear 10AV1000 Goodyear 1377H Goodyear 951000 Optibelt 1200 Optibelt 1212 Quinton Hazell QBA1000 Quinton Hazell QBF1000 Bosch 1987947613 Bosch 1987947691 Bosch 9104161200 Bosch 9114161200 Bosch 9134161200 Dayco 10395 Dayco 10398 Dayco 10A1000 Dayco 10A1005 Dayco 2086 Dayco 4098 Dayco 6157 Dayco 6741 Dayco 6741D Dayco 7611 Dayco 7611L Dayco 858SD Dayco 955 Dayco 958SD CONTINENTAL 6578025 CONTINENTAL 6578038 CONTINENTAL 6587150 CONTINENTAL 6587152 CONTINENTAL 6588634 CONTINENTAL AV101000 CONTINENTAL AV101003 CONTINENTAL AV101005 CONTINENTAL AV101007 CONTINENTAL AV10995 CONTINENTAL V1249 CONTINENTAL V507 CONTINENTAL V570 VIKING 94110 VIKING 95010 SEMPERIT 95X1000 Ferodo V1059 Ferodo V904 Ferodo VS1000 KLEBER 10X1000 KLEBER 10X1005 KLEBER 1113 KLEBER AV10990 UNIPART GCB11000 Gates 6220ESC Gates 6220MC HJS 11446055 HJS 1482546 HJS 1617272 HJS 6044993 HJS 6098572 HJS 6112414 HJS 70TF8620EA HJS 71TF8620AA HJS 76TF8620BA HJS 801779 HJS 80TF6C301DA HJS 82DB8N620BB HJS 83GB6C301AA HJS 83TF6C301DA HJS 95X1003LA HJS 95X1007LA HAVAM1 VG11000 HAVAM1 VS1150 HAVAM1 VS1152 Motorcraft EJA100 Motorcraft EJA101 Motorcraft EJA99 Motorcraft EJB100 Motorcraft EJU394 Motorcraft EJX100 Motorcraft EJX101 Motorcraft EJX99 HUTCHINSON 5376 HUTCHINSON AV10990CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambles Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 10 x 1025 is used on these vans. RENAULT Master I 2.1 D J8S 330 44 60 09.1980-07.1998 10 x 1025La Generator RENAULT Trafic I 1.4 847 700,701 36 50 09.1980-02.1989 10 x 1025La Generator For (F) for chassis TA RENAULT Trafic I 1.6 A1M 707/708 36 49 09.1980-02.1989 10 x 1025La Generator For (F) for chassis TA RENAULT Trafic I 1.6 841 705 36 49 09.1980-02.1989 10 x 1025La Generator For (F) for chassis TA RENAULT Trafic I 1.6 4x4 A1M 707 48 65 03.1980-08.1986 10 x 1025La Generator For (F) for chassis TA .......................................................................... 10 x 1000 is used on these vans. RENAULT Master I 2.0 J5R 718,728 59 85 10.1986-07.1998 10 x 1000La Generator RENAULT Master I 2.0 829 730,731 59 85 09.1980-09.1986 10 x 1000La Generator RENAULT Master I 2.2 829 731 67 91 10.1980-09.1986 10 x 1000La Generator RENAULT Master I 2.2 J5R 718 67 91 10.1986-07.1998 10 x 1000La Generator RENAULT Master I 2.2i J7T 782 Kat. 67 91 09.1980-07.1998 10 x 1000La Generator RENAULT Trafic I 2.0 J5R 716/726 59 80 09.1980-09.1990 10 x 1000La Generator RENAULT Trafic I 2.0 829 58 79 09.1980-09.1990 10 x 1000La Generator RENAULT Trafic I 2.2 J7T 780 70 95 03.1989-07.1994 10 x 1000La Generator RENAULT Trafic I 2.2i J7T 600/780 74 101 03.1989-12.1997 10 x 1000La Generator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Try taking the existing belt to an industrial transmission supplier such as BSL or Wyco they will find a match for yours or a little shorter if you want. They are very knowledgeable and usually happy to deal direct to the public and they dont charge a premium like garages do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Patricia - 2012-01-23 5:56 PM From your posts I sometimes get the impression that you may be French so if your van is French registered and insured it should have breakdown insurance included by law... Seemingly not... http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=22027&posts=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retread24800 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 plumbersvan - 2012-01-23 1:39 PM With a slipping fanbelt i limped into a garage only to be told i was to old 8-) Went to another main dealer in Lyon again "to old" they said they will no longer service vehicals older than 10 years old Im now limping into the hills of central France where more tractors are found that cars *-) There i know i will find service I have parts with me including a fan belt which seems to be a bit to big? *-) I was shocked the reason only new vehicals are wanted is the garage charge is between 60€ and 140€ an hour but the work time is given by the manufacturer:This morning a garage i know well (renault) said disc blocks can be changed in quarter of an hour but the listed charge is 1hr30mins and the mechanic gets a small bonus In the hills and mountains the hourly rate is between 28€ and 35€ per hour and "old" vehicals the norm Hope my fan belt gets there it sound dreadful as i set off,once going its ok?I hope Be warned you might have a non old campingvehical but it might cost a fortune to make a repair during this period of economic hardship Limped into a typical village garage in the middle of the Auverne last year with a failed Exhaust system, trailing on the road. Vehicle is a 1993 Fiat Ducato..........No problem says kind man, park up on the 'municipal' and come back tomorrow morning.............. somewhat poorer we set off the next afternoon complete with a new system. The point is that there are lots of older vehicles especially in the sticks and I would have thought that your Renault Traffic from circa 1983 would be catered for in the same manner, a site for Spares in France is given here, but similar sites are available in the UK Pieces detachee.Just use te local Garagiste to obtain and fit the offending belt, :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Derek Uzzell - 2012-01-24 8:47 AM Patricia - 2012-01-23 5:56 PM From your posts I sometimes get the impression that you may be French so if your van is French registered and insured it should have breakdown insurance included by law... Seemingly not... http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=22027&posts=1 I see what you mean Derek but I realise that this poster is the same person who has several "nom de plumes" and has signed off as a man before now. Is s/he still on her/his first trip then I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Owner Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Pastricia -- I'm not as clever as Derek at posting 'links' -- so I won't try, But -- I'm pretty sure that 'Alfiona' did a tour of France ( and possibly a bit of Spain?) last winter/spring and has re-appeared on these pages only since about Christmas (2011) as happened last year, it seems. Thanks, Derek for the original post about the Eriba Trafic, as all of those chaotic mis-spelled and ungrammatical posts (not a criticism, just descriptive!)now make a lot more sense! Cheers, Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbersvan Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 When one must post on route only to find the connection closed before sending i tend to rush :'( Add to that im at this moment in a new media tech which hasnt yet wi fi or cable i must use a French key board Worse i bought a laptop while in Switzerland whos keyboard isnt British either :-( :-S Then while in New york i bought a super light weight Asus with all mods, solid state which is said to be far faster with less power longer battery :-| Not true my Swiss Toshiba is far better Back to the point the Asus has an AMERICAN keyboard 8-) none are the same Hence bags of errors & emmisions :-S Sorry *-) :-( How anyone can imagin ive several identities i cant imagin? Last year i simply couldnt log in again i tried several times. Last year i remained in France until May i had hoped to return sooner but my campervan remained in a barn on a farm in Essex until November when it moved & remained infront of our kitchen until my parents returned when i was moved to the end of the garden at last escaping on the 4th Jan :-D So there it is B-) I hoped to be in Lisboa by now but forgot my driving licence took to many cloths didnt check the mechanical state;fan belt;and have screeeeched my way accross France;she only screeeches when starting or in slow traffic when she overheats as well as screeeeches I intend to revisit the mountain garages where my fan relay and many other things where repaired last year In the mean time a parts shop is looking for a fan belt 1127 mm long *-) Then theres the matter of a tom tom GPS *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 plumbersvan - 2012-01-24 12:29 PM How anyone can imagin ive several identities i cant imagin? Last year i simply couldnt log in again i tried several times............. Then theres the matter of a tom tom GPS *-) I sympathise fully with your problems using different keyboards as I find the same but you do post under different identities. At the moment you have two thread going both under different names unless of course there is another Fiona. Anyway I hope the repair goes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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