Brian Kirby Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 JamesFrance - 2012-02-14 5:46 PM Here is the Butagaz connector for a 13kg propane to be attached to a bulkhead mounted regulator. http://boutique.butagaz.fr/Pages/Article.aspx?articleId=688&catId=16&pid=5&inSubCat=False Is it the same as a UK butane connector? No. That's the Master Clip. The standard 13kg Butagaz steel cylinder, silver upper half, metallic blue lower half, has a left hand threaded screw connector. See pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 laimeduck - 2012-02-14 5:23 PM Robin - At present we have 2 calor propane cylinders feeding it via an automatic changeover fitting as pictured. The pigtail from the changeover goes to the regulator, so I imagine I will need a Pigtail from the Butagaz to the changover valve. Since my original post, I managed to find data for the Cavagna 424C which says Butane or Propane - as pictures:- ....yes, I wasn't worried about the regulator per se (it is at the EU harmonised pressure of 30mbar for either propane or butane, so not a problem - and I assume you're currently using UK propane anyway?). I suspected you had a changeover head (I think my Benimar also had the same, my last 'van certainly did) - whilst I would check the fitting when you buy just to be sure, a generic UK butane pigtail should be fine (and be fitted to one input of the changeover head). Having it means, of course, no switching of pigtails once you have one of each bottle type connected, and you can run almost exclusively off the French bottle whilst abroad, only switching temporarily to the UK one as a stop-gap between exchanges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Server error!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 More server error, and the pic has now appeared above, and the delete, as noted before, doesn't work!! Good this, innit! :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Brian Kirby - 2012-02-14 6:59 PM More server error, and the pic has now appeared above, and the delete, as noted before, doesn't work!! Good this, innit! :-D .....it's a gas! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Robinhood - 2012-02-14 7:12 PM Brian Kirby - 2012-02-14 6:59 PM More server error, and the pic has now appeared above, and the delete, as noted before, doesn't work!! Good this, innit! :-D .....it's a gas! ;-) Laughing gas? :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 For the last 1-2 months, every time I post a picture I get a servor error - but the picture has posted OK? Weird? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 laimeduck - 2012-02-14 10:27 PM For the last 1-2 months, every time I post a picture I get a servor error - but the picture has posted OK? Weird? ....ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Gentlemen - many thanks. I will buy a butane standard pigtail. I now feel confident that the next time I go to France, I will go with one Calor Propane cylinder, then buy another Butagaz when I get there. Hope it works - I'm sure it will, I have every confidence in you all! 8-) 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinhood Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 If you take this route, Jeremy, one advantage you will have is that it will prepare you for potential use of almost any EU bottle. The 21.8 LH hose (which will connect directly to a UK Butane or a French 13kg Propane), can also be fitted at the bottle end with one of a range of adapters that will enable the use of other bottles. The Gaslow website is a good source of info. Best bought in advance, but the availability is becoming more widespread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 There are products marketed in France that permit the gas-bottle connections of certain 'foreign' leisure vehicles to be adapted to the traditional French gas-bottle connector norm. However, expecting to obtain a UK(propane)-to-French bottle adapter off the shelf at a French motorhome/caravan dealership would be asking a lot, and the adapters aren't cheap to begin with. An alternative to replacing a UK propane-standard pigtail with a UK butane-standard/French propane/butane standard pigtail would be to use one of these http://www.gasproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Gaslow_Propane_Refillable_Adaptor_Gauge.html?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=feedmanager However, as has already has been advised, replacing the current UK propane-standard pigtail with a UK butane-standard one will be the logical (and least expensive) approach. (Regarding 'on-bottle' regulators, my understanding is that French regulations have, for quite a few years, generally prohibited these being used in French-registered leisure vehicles. UK regulations don't prohibit them for UK-registered leisure vehicles, neither does Germany for German-registered leisure vehicles, but France does. France also prohibits - again for French-registered leisure vehicles - use of worm-drive clips to secure flexible gas-hoses: the hose-connections need to be of the threaded type.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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