david1949 Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 My Garmin 2720 is no longer working and needs replaced I was thanking of spending the £300 or £400 on one of the new Sat Navs that is for truck or Motorhome. After reading all the reviews on the Tom Tom / Garmin/ and Snooper Trucker sat navs they are not as good as they seam and can not be trusted to keep you out of trouble not worth the money. So i thanking of buying the Garmin nüvi® 2595LMT so has anyone on the forum got one and what do you think of it .
Pete-B Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 I've got the TomTom Camper and been using al year with no problem.
david1949 Posted October 1, 2012 Author Posted October 1, 2012 Pete-B - 2012-10-01 9:23 PM I've got the Tom Tom Camper and been using al year with no problem. Have you used your Tom Tom Camper in Europe Pete-B because that is where all of the Truck sat navs fall down and most of the bad reports about them are based .
Guest peter Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 david1949 - 2012-10-01 7:35 PM My Garmin 2720 is no longer working and needs replaced I was thanking of spending the £300 or £400 on one of the new Sat Navs that is for truck or Motorhome. After reading all the reviews on the Tom Tom / Garmin/ and Snooper Trucker sat navs they are not as good as they seam and can not be trusted to keep you out of trouble not worth the money. So i thanking of buying the Garmin nüvi® 2595LMT so has anyone on the forum got one and what do you think of it . I've got a snooper. So all the rest are rubbish. If a snooper is "not worth the money" then the rest certainly aren't. Any satnav can get you into trouble, so you need maps as well just to check. Technology is not infallible and shouldn't be totally relied on, as is pointed out on the startup screen on many devices.
BGD Posted October 1, 2012 Posted October 1, 2012 david1949 - 2012-10-01 11:55 PM Pete-B - 2012-10-01 9:23 PM I've got the Tom Tom Camper and been using al year with no problem. Have you used your Tom Tom Camper in Europe Pete-B because that is where all of the Truck sat navs fall down and most of the bad reports about them are based . England is in Europe..........
david1949 Posted October 1, 2012 Author Posted October 1, 2012 BGD - 2012-10-01 11:34 PM david1949 - 2012-10-01 11:55 PM Pete-B - 2012-10-01 9:23 PM I've got the Tom Tom Camper and been using al year with no problem. Have you used your Tom Tom Camper in Europe Pete-B because that is where all of the Truck sat navs fall down and most of the bad reports about them are based . O k so England is Europe then i will be more precise and say Continental Europe England is in Europe..........
thebishbus Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 WE use our Tom Tom 7000 truck/motorhome sat nav abroad, and it works just as well there as it does here. Brian B. ps The only problem here and abroad is the cost of updating the maps.
chas Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 The Garmin dezi 560LMT seems to be the perfect saynav for the motorcaravanner. If youare a CCC member you can get £50 off before 24 Dec. Its spec is fantastic, with vehicle size, 5" screen, free map udates for life, ect ect Cost about £350 before any offer off.
JohnP Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 You make your choice and pay your money. Each of the main players, Garmin, TomTom and Snooper have slightly different features. Each having its advantages. Price, updates etc. Even if a unit says for use in lorries, m/h etc they should still be used with caution and in conjunction with a map because they can lead you up a narrow road. One of the advantages of Garmin is that you can plan an accurate route on a pc using Mapsource software. The route is then uploaded to satnav. I travel alone and prefer this method because it eliminates many of the inappropriate choices of route which any sat nav may make. Can someone explain how these lorry friendly satnavs avoid narrow roads etc. because they all use the same mapping systems. Am I right in thinking that they only avoid roads with legal restrictions ie low bridges, weight or roads where there is a restricted width limit. If this is the case then it would suggest that all other roads are useable regardless of their suitability for m/hs and lorries.
david1949 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 chas - 2012-10-02 8:21 AM The Garmin dezi 560LMT seems to be the perfect saynav for the motorcaravanner. If youare a CCC member you can get £50 off before 24 Dec. Its spec is fantastic, with vehicle size, 5" screen, free map udates for life, ect ect Cost about £350 before any offer off. I looked at the Garmin 560LMT and read the reviews and my friend had one and he sold it and went to a Tom Tom car sat nav
david1949 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 JohnP - 2012-10-02 8:52 AM You make your choice and pay your money. Each of the main players, Garmin, TomTom and Snooper have slightly different features. Each having its advantages. Price, updates etc. Even if a unit says for use in lorries, m/h etc they should still be used with caution and in conjunction with a map because they can lead you up a narrow road. One of the advantages of Garmin is that you can plan an accurate route on a pc using Mapsource software. The route is then uploaded to satnav. I travel alone and prefer this method because it eliminates many of the inappropriate choices of route which any sat nav may make. Can someone explain how these lorry friendly satnavs avoid narrow roads etc. because they all use the same mapping systems. Am I right in thinking that they only avoid roads with legal restrictions ie low bridges, weight or roads where there is a restricted width limit. If this is the case then it would suggest that all other roads are useable regardless of their suitability for m/hs and lorries.[/quote ]Yes John i think i will go for the Garmin 2595LMT with free life time mapping and i can do as you do and make my root out on my P C and then download it to the Garmin
crinklystarfish Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Here's something I wrote on an ancient thread re suitability for larger vehicles, essentially nothing I've experienced since is any practical use at all when it comes to motorhomes and tricky roads: I'd just be a little wary in this regard as with the Garmin nuvi T465 (truck) satnav system at least, the company claim is an exaggerated crock. Essentially you specify whether you are in a car or a vehicle other than a car, and if you choose the latter you can enter the vehicle's dimensions. All good so far. However, the mapping data that exists for restrictions like weight limits and bridge heights etc only exists for major roads. Once you turn off anything that isn't effectively a trunk road the unit simply gives a warning that you are on your own! Now, if you only ever use trunk roads anyway, you are very unlikely to meet with any problems even in a very large motorhome, so effectively the unit is of no help. It bears repeating, once off trunk roads, the unit is as useful/useless as any other sat nav. Here's the really irritating bit though. If you specify you are in a vehicle other than a car and then, just to be awkward, programme the unit with car size dimensions, it will still try to route you on roads for which it has 'dimensional data' ie trunk roads. Anyone punching the size of an 'average' coachbuilt into a nuvi T465 could find themselves routed miles from the most direct, and perfectly passable, route as the unit clearly searches for a route for which it has dimensional data. The only time, at the moment, that this particular machine is useful is if you are driving an oversized LGV on trunk roads. In this scenario, the fact you are 5m high or 55ft long will have you kissing the nuvi T465. In all other cases, save your money. The claim it's any use to motor caravanners is clown shoes.
peterjl Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Hi We purchased a Garmin nüvi® 2595LMT in Berlin this year when our venerable TomTom finally died at the most inconvenient time possible. We are really pleased with the Garmin, does the job effectively. Peter
david1949 Posted October 2, 2012 Author Posted October 2, 2012 peterjl - 2012-10-02 12:44 PM Hi We purchased a Garmin nüvi® 2595LMT in Berlin this year when our venerable TomTom finally died at the most inconvenient time possible. We are really pleased with the Garmin, does the job effectively. Peter Thank you Peter i have just ordered up this 2595LMT from Amazon UK i have read on this forum and others that you should use a map along with your sat nav. I can say in the 6 years i had my Garmin 2720 i never used a map once it did sometimes want to take me up narrow roads but i just drove on and it rerooted its self but overall it was a 100% and when i bought this 2720 it cost £700 i will miss it as it gave me very very good service .
Paul M Who Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 This information may help. I've been reading on the TomTom forum that all the new TomTom models no longer allow you to plan your own itinerary. The Itinerary Planner function has been removed from the latest update. And you can only plan in 4 waypoints from your POI on any given route. I'm not sure if this applies to the Camper model though. The option of planning a dedicated route on Google Maps and using an app like Route Converter to convert the .kml file to .itn or .ov2 files is now unavailable on all new TomTom devices. Once you do a mandatory update you're screwed. There is a growing outrage on the forum about TomTom removing this helpful feature. You punch in your start and end points and TomTom routes you according to its predetermined parameters not yours. See Here
gdf Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 Can't comment on the Garmin BUT would suggest you look on other Forums related to specific Sat Nav manufacturers not just ask on this one. Discovered earlier in year I couldn't fit up to date Europe maps on my old TomTom so replaced it with a new TomTom - what a mistake! I had ALL the problems described by others on the TomTom Forum and it has taken 2 months, with advice from Which Legal, a complaint to Trading Standards, many phone calls to and much climbing over the obstacles the large supermarket chain put in my way to finally get a refund! Dave
lennyhb Posted October 3, 2012 Posted October 3, 2012 There is a free program Tyre to Travel it uses Google maps to enables you to plot a route and then download to either a Garmin or Tom Tom. You can set waypoints POI's, print or email the route, download POI's to your satnav.
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