malc d Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 antony1969 - 2012-12-10 8:36 PM Malc , has it been announced then that the " prank " was solely the reason for the suicide ? Iv'e not heard anything . I've not heard that announced either - -- but I have heard it confirmed by the hospital that the radio station did not get the consent of the nurses before it was broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliveH Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Or the Hospital - The radio station is now saying it tried to contact the Hospital on five occasions but the hospital declined to answer. So it would seem that the Radio Station did not follow normal guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teflon2 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 No one is suggesting that it was the sole reason for the tragedy but even if it was just the final straw it was wrong and the guilty persons should be shown the door. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 If it had not ended in such a tragedy in would have been a rather good prank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliveH Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Indeed it was Malc - I was laughing at it myself - I thought it was very funny. Now I feel a bit sick. Fair play to the two Aussie DJ's - their anguish is genuine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I guess "you've been framed" won't see the light of day again ! I still think it's been blown out of all proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarryEyes Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 How sad. May she rest in peace......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 I agree that there's probably more to this than just this telephone prank... (..it's not usual for people to kill themselves because someone's played a one-off joke on them.... :-S ) ...although thankfully they weren't BBC DJs...or Clive's would've been apoplectic..his poor keyboard would've been in meltdown.!? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter James Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Mel B - 2012-12-07 10:24 PM . I suspect there is a lot more going on at the hospital that has been stated (they wouldn't say anything else than how wonderful etc she was now would they). She had probably been 'roasted' by them for putting the call through, but the one who gave out confidential information is the one who is in for the biggest 'high jump' as far as I can tell. I smell a rat about all of this I think you have nailed it there Mel. I guess the thought of passing the call on to someone else and getting them into trouble would make the poor nurse feel worse :'( The Royals said they didn't complain personally and I believe that - they don't need to bark because they have got a pack of dogs to bark for them. That would be water off a ducks back to me, but I would hate to think I had brought it on somebody else :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The most sickening thing about this whole sad affair is seeing pictures of that slimebag Keith Vaz hogging up the papers/publicity for himself hanging round the poor daughter. About time he did a stretch inside the sh%tbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Syd - 2012-12-17 12:09 AM The most sickening thing about this whole sad affair is seeing pictures of that slimebag Keith Vaz hogging up the papers/publicity for himself hanging round the poor daughter. About time he did a stretch inside the sh%tbag Would Keith Vaz have jumped in had the nurse in question not being of Indian extraction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 No he would not Malc but as the unelected leader of the Asian community he would see it as his duty . If I were the nurses husband I'd tell him to politely sod off and not use there sorrow for his own purposes . Along with Diane Abbott they are two of the worst politicians this country has but thankfully they are of the red corner and not that lovely shade of blue . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Could it be that the daughter is too young to be manhandled by a aged scumbag male such as Vaz, perhaps this could amount to abuse of some kind and the police should be informed (lol) I would lay a large bet that Vaz did not see this as his duty he simply saw it as an oportunity for self promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I have to say that I found his behaviour stomach-churning and he was far too lovey-dovey with the father and son too - very self-seeking and disingenious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 antony1969 - 2012-12-17 7:10 AM No he would not Malc but as the unelected leader of the Asian community he would see it as his duty . If I were the nurses husband I'd tell him to politely sod off and not use there sorrow for his own purposes . Along with Diane Abbott they are two of the worst politicians this country has but thankfully they are of the red corner and not that lovely shade of blue . I dont trust people like Diane Abbott and Kieth Vaz getting into positions of power or these Asians who when joining the police force are fast tracked up the ladder, corruption is endemic in these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 So now it comes out apparently from today's papers quote The nurse who committed suicide after answering a hoax phone call about the Duchess of Cambridge made two attempts to kill herself last winter and had been prescribed antidepressants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliveH Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 I have not found this in UK papers (after only a quick scan admittedly) - it is picked p by an Australian on line News outfit but the main report it cites is from an Indian Paper. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/royal-hoax-call-nurse-was-treated-for-depression-last-year/1049057/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwyn Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I would like to say as a nurse and midwife myself that although it is sad that this woman committed suicide what everyone seems to forget is that she broke the codes of conduct and rules for nurses nad midwives. In fact both members of staff did and as such should have been disciplined. It is drummed into you from very early on that no matter who is purported to be on the end of the phone, no information whatsoever is given out as this is breaking patient confidentiality, this includes next of kin unless it has been agreed with the patient and a password set up. I would not even disclose whether someone was actually a patient if the person on the other end of the phone was not sure I would certainly never ever give out information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 1footinthegrave - 2012-12-23 7:30 AM So now it comes out apparently from today's papers quote The nurse who committed suicide after answering a hoax phone call about the Duchess of Cambridge made two attempts to kill herself last winter and had been prescribed antidepressants IF true this confirms my view that radio / TV stations shouldn't play tricks on people they don't know and then broadcast the results without the victims consent, however " hilarious " they think it is. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony1969 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 gwyn - 2012-12-23 12:59 PM I would like to say as a nurse and midwife myself that although it is sad that this woman committed suicide what everyone seems to forget is that she broke the codes of conduct and rules for nurses nad midwives. In fact both members of staff did and as such should have been disciplined. It is drummed into you from very early on that no matter who is purported to be on the end of the phone, no information whatsoever is given out as this is breaking patient confidentiality, this includes next of kin unless it has been agreed with the patient and a password set up. I would not even disclose whether someone was actually a patient if the person on the other end of the phone was not sure I would certainly never ever give out information. Well said Gwyn , As someone who " was in the trade " you obviously know how things should and should not work . Hopefully those who keep harping on blaming the Aussie's might care to take note Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 gwyn - 2012-12-23 12:59 PM I would like to say as a nurse and midwife myself that although it is sad that this woman committed suicide what everyone seems to forget is that she broke the codes of conduct and rules for nurses nad midwives. In fact both members of staff did and as such should have been disciplined. It is drummed into you from very early on that no matter who is purported to be on the end of the phone, no information whatsoever is given out as this is breaking patient confidentiality, this includes next of kin unless it has been agreed with the patient and a password set up. I would not even disclose whether someone was actually a patient if the person on the other end of the phone was not sure I would certainly never ever give out information. AFAIK she gave out no info, but then I haven't listened to the recording, she passed the caller over to the ward. I turned up at hospital one evening to find my grandmother slipping in and out of concusness as her life came to an end, I stayed with her until it appeared she was no longer going to regain concusness (much to the nurses displeasure) I returned home and phoned my aunt who had gone home to Stroud the day before to "get the hell back up here", she was most supprised as she had phoned up in the afternoon to be told my grandmother was ok. Quite how this level of patient confidentiality helps any one I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwyn Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Confidentiality helps if you are the partner of an abuser. Confidentiality helps if your employee is trying to get rid of you....yes it does happen. Confidentiality helps if you have a terminal diagnosis and you don't want anyone else to know...need I go on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 gwyn - 2012-12-24 7:55 PM Confidentiality helps if you are the partner of an abuser. Confidentiality helps if your employee is trying to get rid of you....yes it does happen. Confidentiality helps if you have a terminal diagnosis and you don't want anyone else to know...need I go on She was a widow, had been retired for 20 years and the family where aware it was terminal. My personal thoughts are that it was the typical "we don't want the family around" they tried to get rid of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 colin - 2012-12-24 8:55 PM gwyn - 2012-12-24 7:55 PM Confidentiality helps if you are the partner of an abuser. Confidentiality helps if your employee is trying to get rid of you....yes it does happen. Confidentiality helps if you have a terminal diagnosis and you don't want anyone else to know...need I go on She was a widow, had been retired for 20 years and the family where aware it was terminal. My personal thoughts are that it was the typical "we don't want the family around" they tried to get rid of me. Colin, if a doctor and the nursing staff know that a patient has a terminal illness and most importantly the patient themself know its terminal, my way of thinking is that the medical staff should see to it that the patients passing however long that might be is free from pain and made as comfortable as possible, what is the point of trying to keep someone alive who is bedridden for another month? when they have no quality of life, its not the patients relatives that look after the dying its the hospital staff, the relatives are more of a hindrance than a help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 knight of the road - 2012-12-25 1:36 AM colin - 2012-12-24 8:55 PM gwyn - 2012-12-24 7:55 PM Confidentiality helps if you are the partner of an abuser. Confidentiality helps if your employee is trying to get rid of you....yes it does happen. Confidentiality helps if you have a terminal diagnosis and you don't want anyone else to know...need I go on She was a widow, had been retired for 20 years and the family where aware it was terminal. My personal thoughts are that it was the typical "we don't want the family around" they tried to get rid of me. Colin, if a doctor and the nursing staff know that a patient has a terminal illness and most importantly the patient themself know its terminal, my way of thinking is that the medical staff should see to it that the patients passing however long that might be is free from pain and made as comfortable as possible, what is the point of trying to keep someone alive who is bedridden for another month? when they have no quality of life, its not the patients relatives that look after the dying its the hospital staff, the relatives are more of a hindrance than a help. My grandmother was not the first relative I've seen die from cancer and unlikely to be the last, she was not kept alive throu any artificial means, just the usual ramping up of morphine. When it comes to care of the elderly and/or terminal patients in hospital I've seen little of "made as comfortable as possible", this is why I always tell people who have 'nearest and dearest' in hospital to get in there and make sure they are looked after ref the recent case of the gent who died of starvation in a hospital and he's not the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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