spospe Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 This thread now reminds me of the old saying: "Having lost sight of our objective, we redoubled our efforts" Can I suggest that this thread has lost sight of its (original) objective (whatever that was) and that we end it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laimeduck Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 spospe - 2013-01-17 9:37 AM Can I suggest that this thread has lost sight of its (original) objective (whatever that was) and that we end it here. I've already committed Hara Kiri twice, once on page two, then again on page four - does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malc d Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 laimeduck - 2013-01-17 9:49 AM spospe - 2013-01-17 9:37 AM Can I suggest that this thread has lost sight of its (original) objective (whatever that was) and that we end it here. I've already committed Hara Kiri twice, once on page two, then again on page four - does that count? Well. it's consistent with the theme of foreigners - but he wasn't an immigrant. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 spospe - 2013-01-17 9:37 AM This thread now reminds me of the old saying: "Having lost sight of our objective, we redoubled our efforts" Can I suggest that this thread has lost sight of its (original) objective (whatever that was) and that we end it here. Or this....................................................... Send reinforcements we're going to advance Send 3 and 4 pence we're going to a dance :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna miller Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 ON A LIGHTER NOTE - During registry on the first day back at school in Birmingham. The teacher begins calling out the names of the pupils: "Mustafa Al Eih Zeri?" "Here Miss" "Achmed El Kabul?" "Here Miss" "Fatima Al Hayek? " "Here Miss" "Ali Abdul Olmi?" "Here Miss" "Mohammed Bin Kadir?" "Here Miss" "Ali Son al Len" - silence in the classroom. "Ali Son al Len" - continued silence as everyone looked around the room. The teacher repeated the call once more in a raised voice. A girl stood up and said, "Sorry Miss. I think that's me, It's pronounced 'Alison Allen'" Go on laugh, you know you want to. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 donna miller - 2013-01-16 6:23 PM 1footinthegrave - 2013-01-16 3:38 PM laimeduck - 2013-01-16 2:04 PM Just to inject a wee bit of humour - it has all happened before:- Displaced people in their own land, no it's not so funny after all. Don't worry, I have a theory. It's a given that in a couple of hundred years or more, like it or not we will be a Muslim country. What will happen is this; The Muslim council will one day in the future have a meeting and will announce that they are sorry for the actions of their previous Sharia governments in displacing and forcing out the white indiginous population, they will then slowly start to hand back parcels of our land and maybe build extensive reservations we can rename "Little Britain, Little Wales and that barren country on the other side of Mohammed's wall". They will then amend all the school books so there is no reference to the retaliation Crusades. Don't laugh, you know I'm right. :DYou sure are Donna. Thanks be to allah that I won't be around to witness it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest peter Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 That was hillarious Donna. Despite being so obvious. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 back on topic ;-) Migration Watch warning on Romania and Bulgaria immigration Temporary curbs on Romanian and Bulgarian migration were imposed by the Labour government in 2005 About 50,000 people from Romania and Bulgaria will come to the UK every year when restrictions are lifted next year, think tank Migration Watch suggests. It predicts this level annually in the first five years after these controls end, warning of "significant consequences" for housing and jobs. Citizens of both countries will have free movement across the EU in 2014. Ministers say calculations are difficult but the Home Office said it was working to cut net migration. Prime Minister David Cameron said earlier this week the detail for such calculations "wasn't there yet". 'Attractive destination' The Home Office said it wanted to move from hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands of migrants by the end of this Parliament. From next year, like other EU citizens, Bulgarians and Romanians gain the unrestricted right to live and work in the UK where currently, they require authorisation before taking a job. Danny Shaw Home affairs correspondent, BBC News Migration Watch has a good track record analysing future population trends so its latest forecast should be taken seriously - though it acknowledges there are many imponderables and there could be 20,000 fewer annual arrivals from Bulgaria and Romania than its headline estimate. Nevertheless, in the absence of any official government figure, the Migration Watch research is the best we have got so far. There are internal Whitehall figures - but ministers do not want to release them in case they are wildly inaccurate. If the predictions turn out to be too low ministers will be accused of being ill-prepared; too high and the critics will say they alarmed people. But as the clock counts down to 1 January 2014 the government will come under increasing pressure to put a figure into the public domain. Migration Watch, which supports tighter immigration controls, said its study suggested its estimates could be considerably higher if there were to be a movement of Roma people to the UK or if some of the nearly one million Romanians resident in Spain and Italy moved to Britain. It said Germany and the Netherlands were "likely destinations" for Romanian and Bulgarian migrants because their youth unemployment rates were lower than other EU countries. But it said the UK, with youth unemployment at 20%, "is nonetheless an attractive destination, partly because of its flexible labour market and partly because of the ***********ease of access to its benefits system*********". Sir Andrew Green, chairman of Migration Watch said: "It is not good enough to duck making an estimate of immigration from Romania and Bulgaria. It is likely to be on a scale that will have significant consequences for housing and public services. "**********It will also add further to the competition which young British workers already face*********. "We have therefore produced our own estimate as a contribution to an important debate which must include the ease with which migrants to the UK can currently access the welfare state." It would be very surprising if net migration from Bulgaria and Romania was on the scale predicted by Migration Watch” Sarah Mulley Institute for Public Policy Research It analysed migration from other European countries and the number of Bulgarians and Romanians already in Britain before making its estimates. Sarah Mulley, of the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) think tank said that although it was "very difficult to predict migration flows with any degree of confidence in these circumstances" the estimates put forward by Migration Watch "look high". She said: "The UK is opening access to its labour markets along with the rest of Europe and the process of opening up to Bulgaria and Romania has been a gradual one, in contrast with 2004 when the UK was the only large EU country to open its labour market and when borders and labour market access were opened at the same time. "So it would be very surprising if net migration from Bulgaria and Romania was on the scale predicted by Migration Watch." Temporary curbs on Romanian and Bulgarian migration were imposed by the Labour government in 2005 to protect the UK labour market. The Labour Party has said it would support any moves to extend the measures. But Home Secretary Theresa May said in November temporary curbs could not continue under EU law and the government was looking instead at limiting access to benefits and the NHS to reduce the "pull factors" that encouraged migrants to come to the UK. Last weekend, Communities Secretary Eric Pickles warned an "influx" of Romanians and Bulgarians would add to the existing housing problems in the UK. 'Pull factors' But he refused to give an estimate of the numbers of people who might move to Britain after getting the right to live and work in the UK in December, saying he did not want to start a "scare story" and that more work had to be done on drawing up a robust figure. The government's migration advisory committee has also said there is evidence that Bulgarians would move to Britain because of its stronger economy, and it was "plausible" Romanians would come for the same reason. The Home Office said: "We are working to cut net migration from hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands by the end of this Parliament and our tough new rules are already taking effect with overall net migration falling by a quarter in the past year. "In terms of European immigration, we are working closely with other government departments to look at the pull factors that may encourage EU nationals, including those from Bulgaria and Romania, to come to the UK. "The government has made clear it will always apply transitional controls on new EU member states and will continue work to cut out abuse of free movement." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flicka Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Never mind Bulgaria & Romania - it's Turkey's entry to the EU we should all be worried about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna miller Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 flicka - 2013-01-17 8:23 PM Never mind Bulgaria & Romania - it's Turkey's entry to the EU we should all be worried about. Nah, most of the Turks are already here, bought over by stupid 60 year old women who actually believed a 19 year old really really loved them. *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave225 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 There could be one answer. As they all pour through the front door, we all nip out the back. Once all the working population have left then there will be no 'pot of gold' for them to get, just a lousy climate. Colonisation worked before and I am sure we could maybe get a Bulgarian vineyard cheap. Seriously, they always talk about 'net immigration' so they never mention the 'emigration' numbers. Just how many working Brits have had enough and leave each year i wonder? As it is usually the young ones, they are just the ones we need to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Good old auntie BBC, reported on this evenings news that a group of men are accused of sexual abuse and grooming of young girls as young as 11,by a gang of men in the Oxford area, no mention of the fact that the girls are White, nor that the men are of Asian background, what's the betting if it was young Asian girls being abused by a gang of White men they would have no such qualms, makes you sick this politically correct pandering. >:-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Within the not too distant future this country will be inundated by thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Bulgarian and Romanian immigrants, all stood on the tarmac or docksides with their battered suitcases and meagre possessions, more than likely hundreds of government and council officials will be herding them onto coaches and shipping them off all over the country where a council property will be waiting for them, properties that should be going to our own homeless people. Due to the fact that these people will have no furniture i have no doubt that handsome furniture grants will be available and of course directions to where the nearest welfare benefit office is. Our own people who are on benefits are being hounded to take up non existant jobs and those who live in council houses who may have one or more spare bedrooms are being penalised and having up to £80 per month deducted from their welfare benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Careful Knight of the road, you'll be getting branded bigot, racist, White supremacist, or of Islamophobia as the case might be,and any other derogatory name some on here can come up with. Don't you know we've got to welcome all....................................I've just set aside my front room for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowtelse2do Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 1footinthegrave - 2013-01-22 7:36 PM Don't you know we've got to welcome all....................................I've just set aside my front room for some. What's it called?...........The East Anglia Suite :-D Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowtelse2do Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Oooop's Double post :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 1footinthegrave - 2013-01-22 7:36 PM Careful Knight of the road, you'll be getting branded bigot, racist, White supremacist, or of Islamophobia as the case might be,and any other derogatory name some on here can come up with. Don't you know we've got to welcome all....................................I've just set aside my front room for some. Mike, I stand my corner and defend what I say, i dont care a tinkers damn for what some of the pretenders on this group think, I have no qualms about nailing my colours to the mast. I just cannot understand the mindset of those who are supposed to govern us by letting in thousands of immigrants when we have no work, a housing shortage our schools and health service is in a chaotic state, how will things be in another couple of years? How many of the Bulgarian and Romanians have been urged by their government to relocate to Britain and its welfare state? It may be that some of the Romanians might be what you call decent sorts but how many of them will be of the Roma gypsy types? Well adept at thieving, our Southern Irish gypsy's are nothing in comparison, what Enock Powell said will come to pass, mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliveH Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 The last UK gov stats available are for 2011 "Final figures for 2010 show that annual net migration to the UK was 252,000, the highest calendar year figure on record. Emigration reached its lowest calendar year figure since 2001 at 339,000 in 2010. Immigration remained steady at 591,000. Declining emigration is the main driver for the increase in net migration. More recent provisional data show net migration was 245,000 for the year ending March 2011. This compares to 222,000 in the year ending March 2010. Immigration remains steady at 582,000 and emigration is at its joint lowest since December 2001 at 336,000 in the year to March 2011 (The year ending June 2005 also had 336,000 people emigrating). Final calendar year figures show that in 2010, there were 238,000 people arriving to study in the UK. This is the highest calendar year figure on record. Provisional figures indicate that this has decreased by approximately 7,000 in the year ending March 2011. Fewer people are emigrating from the UK for work-related reasons. Figures for the year ending March 2011 show that 174,000 emigrants left the UK for work related reasons. This is its lowest for five years and compares to 203,000 in the year to March 2010." ............................ The figures contrast markedly from 2007 when emigration from the UK for work related reasons was considerably higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna miller Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 1footinthegrave - 2013-01-22 7:36 PM Don't you know we've got to welcome all....................................I've just set aside my front room for some. I wouldn't joke too much about that, it wont be long before some EU numpty passes a law that gives the government the right to "place" vulnerable immigrants with housholders who have additional rooms to their immediate requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerC Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 donna miller - 2013-01-22 9:12 PM1footinthegrave - 2013-01-22 7:36 PMDon't you know we've got to welcome all....................................I've just set aside my front room for some.I wouldn't joke too much about that, it wont be long before some EU numpty passes a law that gives the government the right to "place" vulnerable immigrants with housholders who have additional rooms to their immediate requirements. Oh no that will have given the gits an idea.....remember the proposal to make older couples downsize their house to make way for growing families? There's enough numpties in 'power' who might think this is a good idea......:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 RogerC - 2013-01-22 9:47 PMdonna miller - 2013-01-22 9:12 PM1footinthegrave - 2013-01-22 7:36 PMDon't you know we've got to welcome all....................................I've just set aside my front room for some.I wouldn't joke too much about that, it wont be long before some EU numpty passes a law that gives the government the right to "place" vulnerable immigrants with housholders who have additional rooms to their immediate requirements. Oh no that will have given the gits an idea.....remember the proposal to make older couples downsize their house to make way for growing families? There's enough numpties in 'power' who might think this is a good idea......:-)What really rattles my cage is the moment you put your head above the parapet, and voice opposition to immigration you are instantly branded racist, or some equally hysterical outburst. The question they will never answer is when is enough, enough. When you have first wave Black migrants like the ones in the 50's and 60's who settled here and were industrious and hard working, voicing disquiet they should bloody well listen, but I doubt they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 If you live in a council house and are in receipt of welfare benefits and have one or more spare bedrooms you are penalised up to £80 per month, but if you are living in a council house and in work paying your own rent you are not penalised, why is this? The most vulnerable of society are being picked on. I know a couple who are not the brightest coins in the pack in fact they are rather dim and slow, they live in a 3 bed council semi and their benefits have been deducted to the tune of £80 per month and are having to live on £51 per week, both of these people are unemployable and should be looked after by the social service, their house is brutally cold because they cannot afford to run their heating and live in the front bedroom heated by an electric warm air blower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Mike, The ones who accuse you of being racist etc usually live out in the nicer parts of town, they dont live in the inner cities or on our sink estates so they dont know what the hell is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 knight of the road - 2013-01-23 1:03 AM Mike, The ones who accuse you of being racist etc usually live out in the nicer parts of town, they dont live in the inner cities or on our sink estates so they dont know what the hell is going on. I'm thinking of changing my user ID to Alf Garnet, I'm collecting my "labels"on these forums like nobodies business, I'm a White supremacist, a racist, a bigot, suffer from Islamophobia, I'm homophobic, all in a days for a White British male heterosexual these days, What do I care :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebishbus Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Yes this immigration rate is certainly very worrying. Take just the Muslim population of Birmingham as an example. In 2001 it was 14% now it is 20%. Yes 1 in 5 Brummies are Muslims. I remember one being interviewed about how he was going to live here, his reply was that Allah would provide, I thought it strange that Allah would provide in our non Muslim country but not in his own Muslim country. Brian B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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