Guest JudgeMental Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Colin did you only get one key with van...thats a bit odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share Posted February 2, 2013 JudgeMental - 2013-02-02 12:32 PM Colin did you only get one key with van...thats a bit odd No we got two keys, one with remote and one plain key, but gf managed to lose the plain key, but apparently it was my fault as I distracted her, so much for women and multi tasking *-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JudgeMental Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 colin - 2013-02-02 4:44 PM JudgeMental - 2013-02-02 12:32 PM Colin did you only get one key with van...thats a bit odd No we got two keys, one with remote and one plain key, but gf managed to lose the plain key, but apparently it was my fault as I distracted her, so much for women and multi tasking *-) Indeed.......just tried my spare key and while it opens door and starts engine alarm still blaring so not that practical I guess! *-) Its a cat 1 alarm i had fitted not the fiat one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek pringle Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Derek Uzzell - 2013-01-22 3:09 PM This is probably the Leicester company Nick mentioned earlier http://www.bouldins.com/Services.htm Timpson's key cutting/programming services are described here http://www.timpson.co.uk/services/66/non-remote-car-keys Hi Derek, These sites do not appear to list Fiat in their products. Being someone who needed a new key not so long ago for a Fiat Punto I was told by a number of companies that the reason Fiat was one of those car manufacturers that it necessary to to the dealers for was that Fiat would not release the programmes the new key-cutting machines relied upon in order to replicate the keys. Incidently ,at that time about 4yrs ago, the cost from Fiat was £90+ for the key and about £30 for the programming. RIP-OFF hey cheers derek cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 derek pringle - 2013-02-06 10:44 AM Derek Uzzell - 2013-01-22 3:09 PM This is probably the Leicester company Nick mentioned earlier http://www.bouldins.com/Services.htm Timpson's key cutting/programming services are described here http://www.timpson.co.uk/services/66/non-remote-car-keys Hi Derek, These sites do not appear to list Fiat in their products. Being someone who needed a new key not so long ago for a Fiat Punto I was told by a number of companies that the reason Fiat was one of those car manufacturers that it necessary to to the dealers for was that Fiat would not release the programmes the new key-cutting machines relied upon in order to replicate the keys. Incidently ,at that time about 4yrs ago, the cost from Fiat was £90+ for the key and about £30 for the programming. RIP-OFF hey cheers derek cheers I wasn't suggesting that Bouldins or Timpsons could provide Fiat keys - I just provided links to their websites. The Autotechnix website I gave a link to later advertises a Fiat key-provision capability, but it's usefullness (and cost) will depend on the vehicle involved and what type of key is required. http://www.autotechnix.co.uk/Fiat-Car-Keys(2706714).htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share Posted February 6, 2013 derek pringle - 2013-02-06 10:44 AM Hi Derek, These sites do not appear to list Fiat in their products. Being someone who needed a new key not so long ago for a Fiat Punto I was told by a number of companies that the reason Fiat was one of those car manufacturers that it necessary to to the dealers for was that Fiat would not release the programmes the new key-cutting machines relied upon in order to replicate the keys. Incidently ,at that time about 4yrs ago, the cost from Fiat was £90+ for the key and about £30 for the programming. RIP-OFF hey cheers derek cheers When initialy ordering our key it took several minutes before the 'machine' reconised the key and confirmed it could be got, we where also warned that if the van had fiat alarm it might not work. The coding of the replacement transponder took quite some time and the lady said that when they took that long it was normaly a sign theu wouldn't work also it took an extra step to code transponder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek pringle Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 Hi All Seems the best solution all round would be for Fiat to look closely at their pricing policy. We probably would all agree it is fair for them to make a profit on anything they sell but their 'mark up' comes across as ridiculously high. cheers derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 We only have one 'remote' key and one standard key with our Fiat and we want to both have 'remote' keys so I've read this with interest. I appear to have 2 options: 1. Get a second remote key from Fiat at a cost of around £250 including programming etc. 2. Get an extra alarm installed with 2 remote key fobs (includes Thatcham 2 to 1 immobiliser upgrade and interior sensors) for around £290. We aren't actually bothered about upgrading the alarm, however, as the cost isn't that different and it would then give us a Cat 1 immobiliser which should reduce the insurance a bit, can I please have your views on which to go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike88 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Two points asuming you have the standard Fiat alarm.: 1. Are you sure that increasing security from Thatcham 2 to Thatcham 1 will have a significant effect on your insurance premium? 2. Is it really worth having 2 remotes? All you need to do with the second key is use it to open the door. When the alarm sounds insert the key in the ignition and the alarm will stop. That process will take less than a couple of seconds. Alternatively, if you are leaving the van for a few minutes and in a safe place, press the disarm alarm function on the dashboard and lock the van with the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share Posted March 25, 2013 Myself, would just get the second remote key, but then we use other security measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Mike88 - 2013-03-25 5:13 PM Two points asuming you have the standard Fiat alarm.: 1. Are you sure that increasing security from Thatcham 2 to Thatcham 1 will have a significant effect on your insurance premium? As this is a 'secondary' benefit, and I know it will make some difference, it is something to consider. 2. Is it really worth having 2 remotes? All you need to do with the second key is use it to open the door. When the alarm sounds insert the key in the ignition and the alarm will stop. That process will take less than a couple of seconds. Alternatively, if you are leaving the van for a few minutes and in a safe place, press the disarm alarm function on the dashboard and lock the van with the key. Yes we can, and have, done this but as we sometimes go back to the van separately, especially on a night if we've been out walking the dogs, then we will disturb the 'neighbours' if the one who's got the remote key isn't the first one back! :D We're not rushing into this as the first thing to get sorted is the external gas tank so we may give it a bit longer and see how we get on. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyhb Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Mel B - 2013-03-25 3:52 PM 1. Get a second remote key from Fiat at a cost of around £250 including programming etc. Mel, get a quote from some more dealers I can't believe they have gone up by a 100 quid in the last couple of years they were approx £150 inc. programming. All the after market alarms that I looked at that brought the van up to Cat1 wired into the canbus loom and are operated by the Fiat remote key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike88 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Mel wrote: "We're not rushing into this as the first thing to get sorted is the external gas tank so we may give it a bit longer and see how we get on." As an aside you might wish to check some old posts on Swift Talk (with which you have become very familiar) where Swift advise against fitting external tanks on a panel van conversion. I know Autosleepers fit a gas tank on the Warwick but this is something you may wish to check if, like me, you have grounding issues on a similar vehicle (Swift Mondial). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petermartin Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 colin - 2013-01-19 12:10 PM Need a spare non remote key for the van, local Fiat professional dealer quotes £300 to £310, have tried local locksmiths using www.autolocksmiths.net but still need to get key throu Fiat so not able to give a better quote. Any one got a key from elsewhere? My thoughts are to get a non chipped key cut just to use to get in van as it doesnt have a Fiat alarm to worry about, but will that upset system? You can get the a spare non remote from the local store Or you may try different dealers or Locksmiths to see who has the lowest price?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Salisbury Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 We bought a new remote key from Peugeot and it cost £261 2 months ago. The old key kept discharging the battery as I think the printed circuit board was knackered. It would start the engine and also open the driver's door to gain access to the vehicle with out a battery in the key similar to the spare non remote/ There is a company in Wrexham which I found out later that could have done the job a £100 less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebishbus Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 I see this is an old thread, but if anyone out there is looking for a duplicate key try. :- Eyden Locksmiths 44 Walace Road Coventry CV62CY tel .024 76332524. They can supply duplicate keys , including chipped ones. Brian B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyishuk Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Slightly o/topic but it is useful to know that a Fiat key can withstand a 40 Dec C wash, when dried out slowly ! Normally it's tissues in the trouser pockets, that gets me into trouble on washing day. Rgds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali786786 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Hi, The reason the keys are expensive is because the transponder needs to be precoded to your vehicle. This comes from Italy. Secondly, once the garage/dealer gets your precoded transponder, it then needs to programmed to the vehicle using diagnostic equipment. Many locksmiths tend to just clone your existing key transponder which is much cheaper. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asafashkenazi63 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 You can find replacement fobs on Ebay for MUCH cheaper than what the dealer or a Locksmith charges (****, there's a 6-pack for $76 now). This is true whether you have the Keyless go system or the FOBIK "fake key" system. However, you cannot program the fob to the vehicle yourself. You'll need to take all fobs into the dealer or Locksmith and they will re-learn them to the system. For that they will probably charge you an hour's worth of labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithl Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 asafashkenazi63 - 2016-08-11 9:47 AM You can find replacement fobs on Ebay for MUCH cheaper than what the dealer or a Locksmith charges (****, there's a 6-pack for $76 now). This is true whether you have the Keyless go system or the FOBIK "fake key" system. However, you cannot program the fob to the vehicle yourself. You'll need to take all fobs into the dealer or Locksmith and they will re-learn them to the system. For that they will probably charge you an hour's worth of labor. That's all very well but you are in the US and we are in the UK! And you are advertising your own company so consider this post SPAM!!! Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJay Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Keithl - 2016-08-11 11:11 AM asafashkenazi63 - 2016-08-11 9:47 AM You can find replacement fobs on Ebay for MUCH cheaper than what the dealer or a Locksmith charges (****, there's a 6-pack for $76 now). This is true whether you have the Keyless go system or the FOBIK "fake key" system. However, you cannot program the fob to the vehicle yourself. You'll need to take all fobs into the dealer or Locksmith and they will re-learn them to the system. For that they will probably charge you an hour's worth of labor. That's all very well but you are in the US and we are in the UK! And you are advertising your own company so consider this post SPAM!!! Keith. Keith He must be selling on e-bay?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billggski Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 A lot of moho's based on Fords being stolen recently, you pay for the extra security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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