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Just caught a bit of Nige's speech ;-)..................good grief I actually enjoyed listening to a politician 8-).....
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donna miller - 2013-03-23 2:05 PM

 

JudgeMental - 2013-03-23 1:48 PM

 

you would your a moron...........NEXT!

 

Oh the irony *-)

 

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I haven't heard the speech but I just heard an extract on the news in which he said that UKIP is surging because of the complete disatisfaction of the public with the professional politician class. Bloody hell - he has said something that I can agree with too! :-D
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Strange, is it not, that he, a professional politician, considers himself popular, whereas he attributes the unpopularity of other professional politicians to their being........................er, er, well, um, professional politicians!

 

Is he confident in his analysis, I wonder? :-)

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Brian Kirby - 2013-03-23 6:14 PM

 

Strange, is it not, that he, a professional politician, considers himself popular, whereas he attributes to unpopularity of other professional politicians to their being........................er, er, well, um, professional politicians!

 

Is he confident in his analysis, I wonder? :-)

 

Well you could hardly have a amateur politician *-)......................although they all appear to give a dam good impression of being amateurs (lol) (lol)

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That's one of the worrying things, Brian. He is getting the protest votes but if he were ever to get elected then it would soon become obvious that his rhetoric is all just smoke and mirrors like the rest of them. I really do despair at times because the situation in the UK at the moment is just the kind of background that brings dictators to the fore. I know it seems inconceivable that this could happen to us but if you look at the historical record there are plenty of other places that thought the same - until it happened.

 

 

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John 47 - 2013-03-23 6:25 PM

 

That's one of the worrying things, Brian. He is getting the protest votes but if he were ever to get elected then it would soon become obvious that his rhetoric is all just smoke and mirrors like the rest of them. I really do despair at times because the situation in the UK at the moment is just the kind of background that brings dictators to the fore. I know it seems inconceivable that this could happen to us but if you look at the historical record there are plenty of other places that thought the same - until it happened.

 

 

A bit more scaremongering eh? John ;-)......... ..although off the record.............his body language did remind me of someone with a funny tash :D...............but I wont hold that against him as he's speaking my language B-)

 

I wouldn't worry to much about dictators though ;-)............as the electorate is far to savvy now days B-)

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pelmetman - 2013-03-23 6:22 PM

 

Brian Kirby - 2013-03-23 6:14 PM

 

Strange, is it not, that he, a professional politician, considers himself popular, whereas he attributes to unpopularity of other professional politicians to their being........................er, er, well, um, professional politicians!

 

Is he confident in his analysis, I wonder? :-)

 

Well you could hardly have a amateur politician *-)......................although they all appear to give a dam good impression of being amateurs (lol) (lol)

But then, Dave, you distrust experts, professionals, and educated "clever" people. So, who should we elect, rabbits? :-D

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John 47 - 2013-03-23 6:25 PM

 

That's one of the worrying things, Brian. He is getting the protest votes but if he were ever to get elected then it would soon become obvious that his rhetoric is all just smoke and mirrors like the rest of them. I really do despair at times because the situation in the UK at the moment is just the kind of background that brings dictators to the fore. I know it seems inconceivable that this could happen to us but if you look at the historical record there are plenty of other places that thought the same - until it happened.

Not sure about the dictators, but otherwise, I agree. All we seem to know is what he is against. We seem to have little idea why he is, actually, against these things - except possibly that the man behind him is against them! More worryingly, we have absolutely no idea at all what he is for (in any sense! :-)), or what he would do to solve the actual problems we face. A true political cynic, I think.

 

No credentials for a political leader, just for one who appeals to a lot of other people who don't know what to do, but know they don't like how things are. UKIP = UK Indecision Party?

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Brian Kirby - 2013-03-23 6:43 PM

 

pelmetman - 2013-03-23 6:22 PM

 

Brian Kirby - 2013-03-23 6:14 PM

 

Strange, is it not, that he, a professional politician, considers himself popular, whereas he attributes to unpopularity of other professional politicians to their being........................er, er, well, um, professional politicians!

 

Is he confident in his analysis, I wonder? :-)

 

Well you could hardly have a amateur politician *-)......................although they all appear to give a dam good impression of being amateurs (lol) (lol)

But then, Dave, you distrust experts, professionals, and educated "clever" people. So, who should we elect, rabbits? :-D

 

If for no other reason than its someone else's turn to stick their snouts in the trough *-)

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Brian Kirby - 2013-03-23 6:52 PM

 

 

No credentials for a political leader, just for one who appeals to a lot of other people who don't know what to do, but know they don't like how things are.

 

Which seems a pretty good reason to vote for them ;-)................Or else its more same old same old and our savings get nicked to boot, to save their monument to incompetence......the EU *-)

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John 47 - 2013-03-23 6:25 PM

 

That's one of the worrying things, Brian. He is getting the protest votes but if he were ever to get elected then it would soon become obvious that his rhetoric is all just smoke and mirrors like the rest of them. I really do despair at times because the situation in the UK at the moment is just the kind of background that brings dictators to the fore. I know it seems inconceivable that this could happen to us but if you look at the historical record there are plenty of other places that thought the same - until it happened.

Not sure about the dictators, but otherwise, I agree. All we seem to know is what he is against. We seem to have little idea why he is, actually, against these things - except possibly that the man behind him is against them! More worryingly, we have absolutely no idea at all what he is for (in any sense! :-)), or what he would do to solve the actual problems we face. A true political cynic, I think.

 

No credentials for a political leader, just for one who appeals to a lot of other people who don't know what to do, but know they don't like how things are. UKIP = UK Indecision Party?

 

Well I certainly hope I am wrong about the dictator thing but when you look at the identikit trio and then realise that the only alternative at the moment seems to be someone who is against what we have but has no policies for anything to put in its place then it does all seem rather worrying. When this protest is exposed for the sham it is, where will people turn next?

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John 47 - 2013-03-23 7:04 PM

 

Well I certainly hope I am wrong about the dictator thing but when you look at the identikit trio and then realise that the only alternative at the moment seems to be someone who is against what we have but has no policies for anything to put in its place then it does all seem rather worrying. When this protest is exposed for the sham it is, where will people turn next?

 

Now there's the problem for the identikit parties ;-)..............They haven't bothered to listen but just call those that protest bigots ;-)

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antony1969 - 2013-03-23 7:06 PM

 

JudgeMental - 2013-03-23 1:48 PM

 

you would your a moron...........NEXT!

 

Dave your getting greedy collecting all these names

 

They're all going on my CV Antony :D...............Just staking my claim as forum village idiot B-) ..........but I'm getting worried that I might become over qualified :-S

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nowtelse2do - 2013-03-23 7:19 PM

 

All the parties at the moment haven't a clue so UKIP have a level playing field. We do know one thing that UKIP will do and that is to take us out of the EU (gets my vote unless the others can come up with something better)

 

Dave

 

Take us out the EU quicker?.............would get my vote :D

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pelmetman - 2013-03-23 7:09 PM

 

John 47 - 2013-03-23 7:04 PM

 

Well I certainly hope I am wrong about the dictator thing but when you look at the identikit trio and then realise that the only alternative at the moment seems to be someone who is against what we have but has no policies for anything to put in its place then it does all seem rather worrying. When this protest is exposed for the sham it is, where will people turn next?

 

Now there's the problem for the identikit parties ;-)..............They haven't bothered to listen but just call those that protest bigots ;-)

 

No, people who protest are concerned; people who express views without reason in order to stir up trouble are bigots.

 

 

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Can't win can they ? Last Labour government got us in a real pickle , coalition Tory / Libs can't get us out of it , how could UKIP do any worse ?

The big fear surely has to be come general election the lost Tory vote to UKIP will give us the nightmare scenario of Dead Miliband talking down his nose at number 10 .

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nowtelse2do - 2013-03-23 7:19 PM

 

All the parties at the moment haven't a clue so UKIP have a level playing field. We do know one thing that UKIP will do and that is to take us out of the EU (gets my vote unless the others can come up with something better)

 

Dave

 

Not my view but fair enough. Have you asked him what he would do once we've left? An exit strategy is not the same as a policy for running the country. In my view Farage and the SNP are doing similar things - trying to get out of a door without any clue as to what either lies beyond or what they would do to control that new scenario.

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antony1969 - 2013-03-23 7:24 PM

 

Can't win can they ? Last Labour government got us in a real pickle , coalition Tory / Libs can't get us out of it , how could UKIP do any worse ?

The big fear surely has to be come general election the lost Tory vote to UKIP will give us the nightmare scenario of Dead Miliband talking down his nose at number 10 .

 

Now that - while being possibly a widely-held view - is the really scary thing. If "how could they be any worse" is the reason for voting for anybody then it shows what a mess we are in. Bring back those days of yore when we actually voted for something rather than against everything. Now we have got to a situation where a sizeable chunk of the population is prepared to vote for someone without having a clue what he wants to do (other than leave something).

 

 

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antony1969 - 2013-03-23 7:24 PM

 

Can't win can they ? Last Labour government got us in a real pickle , coalition Tory / Libs can't get us out of it , how could UKIP do any worse ?

The big fear surely has to be come general election the lost Tory vote to UKIP will give us the nightmare scenario of Dead Miliband talking down his nose at number 10 .

 

Your right Antony that is the scary scenario 8-).............and when Cameron offered the referendum then I'll admit I did waiver :-S..............but after consideration I decided that I'd still vote UKIP, as that would send the message, besides Cameron is just a two faced Tory looking after his rich mates *-)..........

 

But should the nightmare happen and labour get back in..... or even worse a Lb/Lab coalition 8-)..............then what the heck, I've got no money, I don't pay income tax, we'll be ok ;-).................as its you wealthy people that'll be picking up the tab :D

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John 47 - 2013-03-23 7:32 PMBring back those days of yore when we actually voted for something rather than against everything. Now we have got to a situation where a sizeable chunk of the population is prepared to vote for someone without having a clue what he wants to do (other than leave something).

 

 

I'll have you know I voted for the Cleggy at the last election ;-).............. admittedly for one reason only......the 10k tax threshold...... so a bit of a result eh? B-)

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