Dave225 Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 I assume everyone is as saddened as I am at the news of 3 more deaths in Afghanistan. When will our inglorious leaders realise that this is not a war but merely a target gallery for the Taliban and any idea that we will leave Afghanistan in a civilised state is pure fantasy. Cameron smugly declares our troops are doing an excellent job, which is absolutely true, but it has no purpose whatsoever. Within a matter of months if not before after we leave, the country will be Taliban territory yet again. He also ‘bleats’ that this action is to prevent terrorism here in the UK which is probably the biggest load of BS he has spoken amongst his many offerings. If he wishes to stop terrorist activities here in the UK then send the troops into Luton, Leicester and Bradford and he may have far more success. I am not aware of any terrorist plot against the UK being carried out by any Afghany but there are sure as heck plenty being planned/done by bearded English speaking lunatics from the aforementioned cities and probably others. As the Americans have now discovered it is the enemy within that is the most dangerous. When will these poor specimens of politicians stop pretending they are important if they have large numbers of body bags to their name? Blair was the same. Cameron keeps having fantasy ideas of sending troops to Syria. Will someone just lock him away in a dark room please. The soldiers had only just gone to this miserable country in March and now we have widows and fatherless children yet again.
antony1969 Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 Ignoring the rights and wrongs of been in Afghanistan three young lads have died . Lets hope all the lost lives make for a better and safer world for the rest of us .
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 Of course it's tragic, just as every others soldiers deaths have been in this senseless excursion, and lets not forget the horrific injuries many have to live with for the rest of their lives, injuries that have caused some to later commit suicide. I can't say anymore............................................................................................ (!)
Guest pelmetman Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 No doubt when we leave Afghanistan will be a better place just like Iraq *-) April Iraq's deadliest month in five years - UN Heightened tensions between Iraq's Sunni and Shia led to a peak in violence last month April 2013 was Iraq's deadliest month since June 2008, the United Nations mission in Iraq says. It said a total of 712 people were killed, including 595 civilians, in "acts of terrorism and acts of violence" last month. Iraq's Interior Ministry puts the total death toll for April at 245 people. An army raid on a Sunni anti-government protest camp in northern Iraq last week has triggered a sharp increase in attacks. Baghdad was the worst affected governorate with a total of 211 killed and 486 injured, the United Nations Assistance Mission For Iraq (UNAMI) said in a statement released on Thursday. The mission says Diyala, Salahuddin, Kirkuk, Ninewa and Anbar were the next most affected provinces. A spate of bombing attacks in the last two weeks has left more than 200 people dead and scores injured. Fourteen members of a Sunni militia opposed to al-Qaeda were killed in two attacks by militants near the western Iraqi city of Fallujah on 1 May. At least 18 people were killed and dozens injured by five car bombs in Shia-majority provinces of southern Iraq on 29 April. The latest figures come at a time when tensions are high between Iraq's Sunni and Shia, amid claims by the majority Sunni Muslim communities that they are being marginalised by Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's Shia-led government. More than 20 people were killed in clashes between security forces and Sunni Arab protesters in northern Iraq on 23 April. The violence erupted when security forces raided an anti-government protest camp in Hawija, near Kirkuk. There was also widespread violence before the 20 April provincial elections - the first elections since the last US troops withdrew at the end of December 2011. Dozens were killed in bombings targeting mainly Shia areas, and 14 candidates, most of them Sunnis, were murdered. Although levels of violence in Iraq have dropped since the heights of the insurgency in 2006 and 2007, current unrest is more widespread than at any time since the US military withdrawal.
Guest Peter James Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 I am sure we would be better off pulling out, but I can understand their reluctance to do so. War is a dirty business, you cannot avoid getting your friends and supporters - the 'good guys' into trouble. Promises have been made to British supporters there - help us find and attack the Taliban and we promise to look after you. Do you then renenge on all your promises and leave them to their fate? Eventually we may have to do that, like George Bush did in the first Iraq war. Encouraged Iraqis to rise up against Saddam with the promise of support, then halfway to Baghdad turned around and left them to fight Saddam on their own. :-( Some politicians don't seem concerned with Human Rights but they do understand loyalty - look after me and I will look after you. They don't want a reputation as someone who renenges on a promise to help those who helped him. Sure is easier to get into a war than it is to get out of one :-(
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted May 5, 2013 Posted May 5, 2013 Taken from the MI5 website. "A number of British residents have travelled to Iraq and Afghanistan to join the insurgencies. However, trainees will also have acquired skills which are of value to terrorist campaigns against the West. In order to mount terrorist attacks in the UK or other Western countries, Al Qaida seeks those who can easily travel to target countries (for example, without the need for a visa), can blend in once there, and can best access other individuals and facilities to assist them in mounting a terrorist attack. In the case of the UK, British citizens would be best placed to do this, and are therefore of great interest to Al Qaida." Perhaps our forces are simply in the wrong place, perhaps Sparkhill in Birmingham would be a better bet. >:-( They go on to say Under Taliban protection, Al Qaida established a number of training camps in Afghanistan, however, most were destroyed in the international military action that followed 9/11. :-S Although a significant number of Al Qaida's "graduates" have been killed or arrested in the worldwide campaign against terrorism, many trained terrorists remain at large and continue to pose a serious threat. They include a number of UK citizens and foreign citizens resident in the UK. >:-( You can't beat a bit of multiculturalism eh. >:-( biting the hand that feeds it.
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