postnote Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 What a disgrace, so age does matter. Stuart Hall is found guilty for sexual offenses to females as young as 89 and he gets 15 months. Now if you’re in your late teen, 20’s, or 30’s your jail sentence will be longer. I though in crime we were all equal? >:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Owner Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I wasn't going to answer your thoughtless, lazy and uninformed posts anymore, 'Postnote' -- but I can't help myself ! Just to put the record straight --in our fair and just judicial system, the judge can only use the sentencing rules that were in place when the offence(s) was/were committed -- this BBC News website piece will assist :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22932222 As Hall's offences were not discovered until a good long time after they had taken place, his sentence was relatively lenient and certainly not of the severity that these offences would attract today, whatever the age of the defendant. It did not include a rape charge (which is 'on record') as, presumably, the victim was unwilling/unable to testify against him in court, so only the lesser, 'touching' offences counted for sentence. I happen to believe that his sentence, for a man of his generation (that probably did not look upon them as serious offences anyway) and age, was possibly a bit harsh, although some are petitioning for it to be reviewed as they believe it to be too lenient. He has lost all credibility and his public image is ruined, so to subject him to the sort of treatment that his fellow inmates and prison officers will mete out to him is a bit hard at his age. The gaol term could have been suspended, I feel, but the judge would surely have been aware of the furore in the 'popular' press that that course of action might have brought about. Cheers, Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postnote Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 Well thank you Colin for taking the time and trouble to answer my post, althought against your better judgement.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 The one thing I find very strange about all of these cases, is why they have never surfaced before now, never mind how you prove activities that may well have been done without first hand witnesses, also why is it seemingly confined to celebrity people, perhaps we will here of the local street cleaner that was well known where I lived in the 1960s that was well known for touching up the local lads in exchange for half a crown, enough to get them a night out at the cinema and a fish and chip supper. I'm not saying it was right, but non the less it was it seemed an activity willingly entered into by all parties, though no doubt those self same lads would be horrified if those activities came in to the public domain 50 years after they happened, then it was for many part of growing up. Today it would be sexual assault of course, but I'm not sure who is served by imprisoning a very old man after so many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Owner Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I Couldn't agree more Michael -- I too, was fondled in the 'private parts' by the local pervert -- we all knew who he was and what he got up to -- he kept an ice-cream shop in a stone outbuilding attached to his garden (away from the attentions of his wife, who was not involved in the ice-cream business) but on the main road going through our hamlet/village, right by the 'bus stop, so, just in the right place for catching the unwary. He did get a warning, from the local constable, after my mother reported him, but not the local (and highly-regarded) Cub Scoutmaster who molested my two younger brothers, although not me, for some strange reason. I presume that our collective conciousnesses have been stirred by the tales of Jimmy Savile's dreadful behaviour, and, as he is unavailable, as much muck as possible is being heaped on the reputation of those ancient 'celebrities' as can be raked up, although the feeling of: "Nothing will come of it if I do tell" is one that I recognise. Now, for those victims who are still around, some of their feelings of 'uncleanliness' can possibly be expunged. Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Owner Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 postnote - 2013-06-18 11:39 AM Well thank you Colin for taking the time and trouble to answer my post, althought against your better judgement.. Thank YOU, Postnote, (I'm not sure that you are really called Arkroyd -- are you?) -- but -- don't you ever 'proof -read' your posts? C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Further to my previous post, there is a world of difference between forced unwanted behaviour, and my example of the local perv who was very well known, as was the verger at the local church. Many attitudes are very different now, I'm positive I would stand a chance of being up on a charge in today's world, I always in common with most lads used a degree of coercion with my girlfriends, when some would say don't tell anyone if I let you, blah blah blah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Just be carful what you put up(admit to)on the internet 1foot'.. :-S You're now having a private chat with your mates down the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelmetman Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I'm thinking of suing my right hand 8-)..................I've lost count of the number of times its molested me :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1footinthegrave Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 pelmetman - 2013-06-18 3:04 PM I'm thinking of suing my right hand 8-)..................I've lost count of the number of times its molested me :D You should have a right few bob by now, and 2and6 a go. But from the outset I've had a feeling all or some of this could be about "compensation" , now I wonder if Arthur became a celeb with a few bob, the lads in the village could be in for a windfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postnote Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 Symbol Owner - 2013-06-18 12:38 PM postnote - 2013-06-18 11:39 AM Well thank you Colin for taking the time and trouble to answer my post, althought against your better judgement.. Thank YOU, Postnote, (I'm not sure that you are really called Arkroyd -- are you?) -- but -- don't you ever 'proof -read' your posts? C.Of course not Colin, I leave that to the people on hear. If I did they woudn't have anything to moan at. Your the exception though. :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Owner Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 postnote - 2013-06-18 5:28 PM althought against your better judgement.. don't you ever 'proof -read' your posts? Of course not Colin, I leave that to the people on hear. If I did they woudn't have anything to moan at. Your the exception though. :D :D Ha, bl**dy Ha! Obviously I'm not! As I said earlier, you're just a lazy poster -- it really is insulting to your audience -- if you were talking in a pub conversation/discussion and mispronounced something, or used the wrong grammar or labelling you would correct yourself immediately and I hope, apologise! As it is, even your childish name-calling/insults are so seriously misspelled that they don't even resemble the word that I think you mean! It is just sheer guesswork! And not just once but twice in the same post! Ah well, as somebody else on here said -- I don't have to answer you -- but it entertains me and keeps the boredom away -- better than Muslims/Europe/benefit scroungers etc. etc.!!!!! Cheers, Colin. P.S. I need to proof-read mine, my typing is dreadful,which is why they get 'edited' so often! C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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