moebaj Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Can i carry a moped 50cc in the garage of my motorhome, it is a hobby 690 3 litre engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel B Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Hi Moebaj, welcome to the mad house! :-D That's a bit like asking how long is a bit of string! It will depend on the payload of your MH, the axle weights and also what the carrying capacity is of your garage, and what else you carry too which will reduce your payload etc, not to mention the weight of the scooter you intend to put in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Uzzell Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 moebaj - 2013-07-28 5:01 PM Can i carry a moped 50cc in the garage of my motorhome, it is a hobby 690 3 litre engine I assume you’ve got one of the several Toskana 690 models that Hobby has marketed over the last 5 years. A recent example is shown here: http://www.eshartleygroup.co.uk/motorhomes/detail&vid=58735 The first thing to check is the maximum weight the rear garage has been designed to take - you don’t want to be putting a 90kg moped in a garage with a maximum weight-limit of 60kg. The garage’s weight-limit should be stated in the Hobby handbook for your vehicle. If you already own the moped, you will know its weight: if you were planning to obtain a moped, you’d need to check its weight before purchase to confirm it did not exceed the garage’s limit. Toskana 690s were built on a 4000kg or 3500kg Ducato base and, for the latter (and particularly when the motor is the 3.0litre version), payload is pretty limited. To know whether carrying a moped is a realistic option legally, you’d need to have your motorhome weighed when it’s in a representative fully-laden condition to establish its overall laden weight and its front- and rear-axle loadings. If the overall laden weight + the weight of the moped exceeds the 3500kg (or even the 4000kg) ‘chassis’ weight maximum, you could not legally carry the moped without reducing the overall laden weight (eg. by carrying only a small amount of fresh water when the vehicle is being driven). Toskana 690s have a longish rear overhang, so anything carried in the garage will have a significant impact on the rear-axle loading. To calculate that impact, you’ll need to know a) the axle loadings when the vehicle is fully laden, b) the weight of the moped, c) the vehicle’s wheelbase and d) the distance between the position of the moped in the garage and the motorhome’s rear axle. There is an article relating to payload/overloading on pages 178/179 of the current MMM Magazine (August 2013). This article includes formulae that should allow you to carry out that calculation. If your 690 has the 4000kg chassis and the moped were (say) no more than 70kg in weight, you should probably be OK. If your 690 has a 3500kg chassis, you could well be in trouble. But that’s just an educated guess. To know for sure you’d need to do some research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moebaj Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Thank you for the advice I will check before buying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moebaj Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Thanks will check for weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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