Hillbum Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Can anyone explain what constitutes an awning when booking a site? I can understand what a full awning is (safari room / drive away) but is a roll out sunshade classed as an awning? Especially one without a groundsheet. Is a sunshade and windbreak an "awning"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I've found it varies from site to site..but it's not uncommon for a wind out sunshade/tarp to be counted(charged) as an awning... We've been on one site(Stratford on Avon I think)that in one field, didn't allow any canopies or windbreaks.. Always best to check with the 'site in question.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david lloyd Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 The caravan club appear to be enforcing a new strict rule that means you have to book a 'pitch with awning' or you will not be allowed to put anything up - including the rollout. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Its a nonsence really, if you pay for a pitch you should IMO be able to put what you want on it (within reason of course) as long as you stay within the designated area you have paid for. But as we all know people take the proverbial so I suppose there has to be a rule. Personally I would like top see the introduction of electrified fencing that I could put around my pitch to stop lazy bone idle cheeky barstewards from taking a short cut across it. That is something that really really annoys me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeti Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 david lloyd - 2013-08-02 9:31 AM The caravan club appear to be enforcing a new strict rule that means you have to book a 'pitch with awning' or you will not be allowed to put anything up - including the rollout. David So much for the benefits of membership-now £40+ what a joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendolyn Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 david lloyd - 2013-08-02 9:31 AM The caravan club appear to be enforcing a new strict rule that means you have to book a 'pitch with awning' or you will not be allowed to put anything up - including the rollout. David They have had to rethink the ruling. This is taken from the CC Forum: Standard Pitch Without Awning A motorhome may use a wind out sun canopy as long as the spacing is maintained. If a member breaches the required spacing they should be requested to wind the canopy in sufficiently to achieve the 3 metre gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix Meanderer Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Another reason for not using British sites? I would like to see the reaction if a site owner in France, Spain, Italy ........ suggested charging for an awning. There would be a riot or campers would simply go elsewhere. I've never seen a site across the channel charging for awnings, but maybe there are some somewhere. So we can be pretty sure that it's never going to happen across the channel because all the site owners are sensible people who welcome campers of all sorts and are not (usually) trying to make the extra buck by charging for a roll out bit of material, or applying petty club rules. However, one word in defence of our club sites. Having spent many nights rather too close to neighbours in various countries, we did enjoy the 6 metre separation on the Damage Barton C&CC site last month. Nice to have some "elbow room" around the pitch. :-) Pity it was a long uphill walk to the toilets, time for a shower block for the bottom end of the field maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe63xnotuse Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Gwendolyn - 2013-08-02 1:39 PM david lloyd - 2013-08-02 9:31 AM The caravan club appear to be enforcing a new strict rule that means you have to book a 'pitch with awning' or you will not be allowed to put anything up - including the rollout. David They have had to rethink the ruling. This is taken from the CC Forum: Standard Pitch Without Awning A motorhome may use a wind out sun canopy as long as the spacing is maintained. If a member breaches the required spacing they should be requested to wind the canopy in sufficiently to achieve the 3 metre gap. That sounds better then Gwyn'.. ;-) I wonder,does this "3mtr gap" apply to any flammable item I wonder?(wind breaks etc) or just "stuff" fixed to a vehicle.... :-S It always amuses me this site, it seems folk with gladly park up on the Continent, on pitches so close they could almost lean straight into their neighbour's van..and yet when a UK 'site/organisation states that certain pitches are not suitable for awnings, then the "let's all go abroad"/anti UK bleating begins.. (lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Leake Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Just to put this in context it all started on a Caravan Club Site at Old Hartley when a caravan caught fire. The owners managed to escape in their pyjamas but left the car keys inside. By the time they realized this it was impossible to get back in to recover the keys so they lost the caravan and their car. Caravan or Motor Home fires take hold very quickly and are difficult to deal with because of the danger from the gas cylinders exploding. The Old Hartley site is now and all none awning site because of the spacing of the pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david lloyd Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 I agree with Colin that there is a great deal of sense in having the acing rule and have been more concerned sometimes when units have been so close it poses severe safety and privacy issues. On one site I opened the oven door and found the neighbours dipping their bread in our gravy! Well, not really, but sometimes it is just too close for comfort. However, my friend had been asked if he wanted a pitch with awning or pitch without awning. As he had no intention of putting up an 'awning' he booked without only to find out on arrival that this also meant he couldn't use the roll out on one of the hottest days of the year. He was even more bemused by the fact that his allocated pitch had the remaining gravel area that a caravaners car would stand on, then some area of grass before it joined the site road then nothing beyond it. Sometimes it just takes a common sense approach and I am sure that if most site wardens were left to apply it things may run much smoother. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendolyn Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 david lloyd - 2013-08-03 7:52 AM I agree with Colin that there is a great deal of sense in having the acing rule and have been more concerned sometimes when units have been so close it poses severe safety and privacy issues. On one site I opened the oven door and found the neighbours dipping their bread in our gravy! Well, not really, but sometimes it is just too close for comfort. However, my friend had been asked if he wanted a pitch with awning or pitch without awning. As he had no intention of putting up an 'awning' he booked without only to find out on arrival that this also meant he couldn't use the roll out on one of the hottest days of the year. He was even more bemused by the fact that his allocated pitch had the remaining gravel area that a caravaners car would stand on, then some area of grass before it joined the site road then nothing beyond it. Sometimes it just takes a common sense approach and I am sure that if most site wardens were left to apply it things may run much smoother. David As I wrote up-thread, the CC have now revised that ruling. Motorhomes are now allowed to use a roll out awning, as long as it keeps within the spacing regulations. A Warden explained this on the CC Forum - motorhome plus roll out canopy takes the same space as caravan plus car. The subject has been much discussed on the Club's Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wills Wagon Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 This would get them excited! Seen in Honfleur France in June 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wills Wagon Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Sorry about above post but the photo was too big. I have forgotten how to reduce photo size from 1.4mb to 100k. Anybody able to help please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wills Wagon Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Don't worry about awnings this is how the French cosy up. Seen at Honfleur in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 david lloyd - 2013-08-02 9:31 AM The caravan club appear to be enforcing a new strict rule that means you have to book a 'pitch with awning' or you will not be allowed to put anything up - including the rollout. David That/this is not my experience, and there is no extra charge for an awning anyway, as there is no charge for dogs. Also the 'Post to r/h rear of unit' DOES NOT mean that you HAVE to back in. As has been said, it is only to sensibly make sure that ALL units are the recommended distance apart (and NOT to make the site look like a 'row of soldiers on parade'.) I, decide whether I want to drive or back in, depending on the view. Never had a problem with this. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Wills Wagon - 2013-08-03 12:59 PM This would get them excited! Seen in Honfleur France in June 2013 Can't see it ,but I can guess. Not much fun if one burst into flames though would it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 try this site to shrink pics http://www.shrinkpictures.com/.. i do like a bit of space between me and the next van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david lloyd Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Rayjsj - 2013-08-04 9:07 AM david lloyd - 2013-08-02 9:31 AM The caravan club appear to be enforcing a new strict rule that means you have to book a 'pitch with awning' or you will not be allowed to put anything up - including the rollout. David That/this is not my experience, and there is no extra charge for an awning anyway, as there is no charge for dogs. Also the 'Post to r/h rear of unit' DOES NOT mean that you HAVE to back in. As has been said, it is only to sensibly make sure that ALL units are the recommended distance apart (and NOT to make the site look like a 'row of soldiers on parade'.) I, decide whether I want to drive or back in, depending on the view. Never had a problem with this. Ray Not been my experience in the past either Ray and leaving sufficient space for safety/privacy is eminently sensible. I think my friend's point was that when asked, at the time of booking, if he wanted a 'pitch with awning' he said no but had notvrealised that also meant a role out canopy so when he turned up on one of the hottest days of the year and was told he couldn't use the sunshade he felt a little let down. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The only CC site i have stayed on that didn't allow Caravan Awnings OR roll out awnings, was Bunree, on the Loch side pitches, I always thought it was so that people pitched behind also got a view of the Loch, but evidently not, it (the rule) was historic, when planning was first granted, the people across the other side of the loch in Clovullin objected to 'canvas being erected' or some such. Strange Lot over in Ardgour. Any way the rule is still enforced. (it is also nice for the people on the pitches behind the lochside). cause they still get a view. And I hate being crowded together,apart from the fire risk a GOOD neighbour keeps their distance. (which is why I tend NOT to holiday in France or Spain). even if the weather is usually better. Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly58 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I was talking to a couple last week who told me they had told a site warden to stuff his site after he was asked to pay an extra £5 because he had a small car in tow behind his motorhome . When he questioned the fee and asked if caravanners had to pay extra to park their car with the caravan in the same size pitch he was told motorhomes were different and a separate charge was for an additional vehicle ??? unfortunately I cannot remember which of the two clubs he was referring to . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ips Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Can't see why a roll out canopy should incur a charge but the charge for awning is IMO really a charge for ground sheet due to the damage that can be caused to the ground, obviously not the case on hard standing but a factor on grass. We don't charge for either but sometimes wished we had if a sheet has been down for a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayjsj Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 kelly58 - 2013-08-05 1:23 PM I was talking to a couple last week who told me they had told a site warden to stuff his site after he was asked to pay an extra £5 because he had a small car in tow behind his motorhome . When he questioned the fee and asked if caravanners had to pay extra to park their car with the caravan in the same size pitch he was told motorhomes were different and a separate charge was for an additional vehicle ??? unfortunately I cannot remember which of the two clubs he was referring to . Not the CC unless he had a trailer as well.Don't know about the C&CC, I left them because I like to choose my own Pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendolyn Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Rayjsj - 2013-08-05 7:15 PM Don't know about the C&CC, I left them because I like to choose my own Pitch. Here we go again - bad old C&CC: you cannot choose your pitch. We did. Yesterday. We had booked a grass pitch. As it was raining when we arrived, we were asked if we’d like to change to a hard standing. We declined because our DD is joining us later in week with her tent. The Warden said, “In that case, I have 3 grass pitches I can offer you. There’s one I think you’ll like. Nice view to the hills. Let’s take a look.” We looked; we liked; we pitched. Didn’t bother looking at the other 2. Wardens escort you to a pitch as they see it as part of the service. If you don’t like the pitch, ask to change. We have never been refused. They “allocate” pitches to a degree as they have to consider the needs of tent campers as well as motorhomers and caravanners. And, sometimes, that is preferable to the free for all, and the unseemly scramble, we experience on CC sites. We’ve been members of one club for 27 years; of the other for over 20. They fulfil a need when we are motorhoming / caravanning in the UK – that’s not often nowadays. Cannot be bothered with the grand gestures and indignant huffing and puffing, about either Club. They’ll do. Gwen [Happy Camper] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggyd Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wether its with the CCC or CC you DONT pay to pitch an awning!! they ask if your putting up an awning as then you will need the larger pitch, we have never had any trouble rolling out our awning on the smaller pitch as its put back in again anyway. The only time you pay extra is for the superpitch as that is larger and comes with extra,s dont ask me what as I wouldnt pay anyway so Ive never asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Duck Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 kelly58 - 2013-08-05 1:23 PM I was talking to a couple last week who told me they had told a site warden to stuff his site after he was asked to pay an extra £5 because he had a small car in tow behind his motorhome . When he questioned the fee and asked if caravanners had to pay extra to park their car with the caravan in the same size pitch he was told motorhomes were different and a separate charge was for an additional vehicle ??? unfortunately I cannot remember which of the two clubs he was referring to . On a CC Site? We often tow a vintage car, on a trailer, behind our Motorhome and have never been asked for any extra for car and/or trailer on any CC site. FD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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